Poll: What do you think about circumcision?

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Claptrap

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R3dF41c0n said:
I'm against circumcising boys unless there is a medical or religious reason. America does it to every baby boy shortly after birth for really no reason at all. The doctors claim it's for sanitary reasons but honestly in this day in age that shouldn't be a problem. I think parents don't want to explain to their sons how to care for themselves but that's my opinion.

As for me I was uncircumcised until a few weeks ago. I had the surgery for medical reasons and kept putting it off due to not having insurance. After the pain and tenderness died down I can say I'm happy with my decision.

Still, I think it should be a decision a man makes for himself as an adult and not something parents do for them.
Alright then, To put this to rest, As someone who was uncircumcised and then circumcised, Have you noticed any difference in pleasure? ( If you don't mind me asking of course)
 

Duskflamer

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Saying that parents should not be allowed to get their children circumcised, and should be punished for doing it, is tantamount to religious discrimination. A briss 7 days after a kid is born is part of the Jewish religion. I was raised Jewish and though I don't place much stock in religion, my mom does, and I don't feel any compelling reason to tell her off for "mutilating me at birth" or whatever anti-circumcision people are on about.

According to Judaism, performing the circumcision on a child is part of the rite the ancient Hebrews made with God. Saying that Jews should be punished for the pain involved in performing circumcision is about the same as railing against Christian baptisms for the discomfort of being submerged in water, and the minor chance of drowning. If that sounds ridiculous to you, guess what? Arguing that circumcision shouldn't happen sounds about as ridiculous to me.
 

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The notion that there are so many people against circumcision here is baffling to me. Let me run down a couple of points real quick:

1) Its a hygiene thing. If you are walking around all day with a flap of skin wrapping a moist area all day, it could lead to infection, more so if than you cut it off.

2) If you wait until you are older to get circumcised, there is a sensitivity issue that will plague you for a couple of months. I.E. your penis will hurt by just getting touched, so things like wearing underwear will be painful. Imagine trying to have sex during that period -- not worth it.

3) Assuming you live in a 1st world nation, most penises are circumcised at birth. Chicks these days, especially with our society that is fixated on grooming, aren't used to seeing an uncircumcised penis. It looks weird, to them at least.

It seems like everyone here is clenching onto their enlightenment ideal of everyone having a choice and responsibility to choose on their own, but really who gives a fuck. Once it's done it's done, and the differences in lifestyle are essentially zero. This seems like a non-issue to me, so when I here people crying outrage, what I'm really hearing is people who love to be victims and have an intense hatred for mom and dad.

Just quiet down and find some real issue to worry about like getting a job or using your freshly circumcised penis to make babies. On second thought, never have kids. I don't want any more of you self entitled assholes running around.
 

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Bento Box said:
hashtag said:
I voted the parent's choice, but what I really mean, is religious reasons. I really think you shouldn't circumcise, barring medical reasons, unless it's a religious reason. I just don't see a point to cutting off part of the dick for any non-religious reasons. Seems kinda weird.

"(10 points says poll gets eaten)" You, my friend, are out 10 points. I think I will use the points to buy a vineyard, out in the countryside.
This is not a personal attack, and any use of the word 'you' (with the exception of the very first instance where, in fact, I am addressing the author of the post) should be read in the personal sense to the reader.

I was sure this was going to turn religious -- I didn't expect it to be the very first post! Huzzah, escapist!

So, here's why you're wrong, and read carefully: Religion is not ever, in any circumstance, a fucking excuse to do anything you wouldn't do otherwise. I will never, and nobody should ever, accept the proposition that religious morality is a loophole around actual morality.

I don't believe in female genital mutilation -- and I don't believe that just because your religion says so, you should be allowed to mutilate female genitals.

I don't believe in ritual animal sacrifice -- and I don't believe that just because your religion says so, you should be compelled to kill an animal for no tangible reason.

I don't believe in ritual self-flagellation -- and I don't believe that just because your religion says so, you should flagellate yourself for any reason other than self-gratification.

I don't believe in flying passenger jets into skyscrapers -- and I don't believe that just because your religion says so, you should fly a passenger jet into a skyscraper.

I don't believe in slicing a baby's dick -- and I don't believe that just because your religion says so, you should slice your baby's dick.

So, I've qualified all of these with "I believe." Do you disagree? Should we allow all of those instances I just listed?

If you do believe that, then I suppose at least you're consistent.

You're also a monster.

Why not be consistent in the other direction, instead? Why not determine what is and isn't moral, irrespective of the tens of thousands of constantly-splintering religions say? Why not determine morality based on a reasonable consideration of where one person's rights should end, and another person's begin?

Fun fact about traditional Talmudic circumcision: The moil uses his fingernails to slice the baby's dick, and then he uses his mouth to suck the blood from the baby's sliced dick. As far as I'm concerned, removing the fingernails and infant-cock-bloodsucking is really irrelevant; you're still left with someone slicing a baby's dick.

As far as I'm concerned, my right to swing my fist ends at your nose, and anyone's right to slice things with their fingernails ends at a baby's dick.

OBTW, I'm cut. I was cut twice, and am still, believe it or not, still mostly intact -- I guess that makes me some kind of bizarre penile anomaly. Yes, I still believe that it makes my parents monstrous. No, I'm not bitter about it, but only because I recovered. If I were more religious and less ethical, I'd use myself as a message from God, that he doesn't want people to slice children's dicks anymore.
Huh. I wasn't aware that my opinion could be wrong, cause you know, it's an opinion. And to clarify some things, I'm not religious, I'm actually against circumcision. However, I cannot stop circumcision, therefore I just figure it's one of *those* religious things. Things I don't understand, things people in another religion would. And in that case, I do believe it should be the parent's choice.
Tell me, when you were a kid did you get to choose your own religion? The answer, I'm guessing, is no. Then what's the difference? When you were a young child, your parents chose your haircuts, they chose where you went to school, what TV shows were appropriate (actually that never took off in my house) and they probably chose circumcision.
I just don't see a difference between doing all of that and circumcision. Maybe it's because I wasn't circumcised? Who knows.
 

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Duskflamer said:
Saying that parents should not be allowed to get their children circumcised, and should be punished for doing it, is tantamount to religious discrimination. A briss 7 days after a kid is born is part of the Jewish religion. I was raised Jewish and though I don't place much stock in religion, my mom does, and I don't feel any compelling reason to tell her off for "mutilating me at birth" or whatever anti-circumcision people are on about.

According to Judaism, performing the circumcision on a child is part of the rite the ancient Hebrews made with God. Saying that Jews should be punished for the pain involved in performing circumcision is about the same as railing against Christian baptisms for the discomfort of being submerged in water, and the minor chance of drowning. If that sounds ridiculous to you, guess what? Arguing that circumcision shouldn't happen sounds about as ridiculous to me.
It's irrelevant whatever religion the parents are. The child is not of the same religion until you decide that for the child. And that is against basic human rights, I think anyone would agree that it's immoral and wrong to tell a woman that she must cook your food, or tell a child that it's alright to have sex with adults.
Everyone is born atheist, what we become later on is influenced by those around us. Most people never get the choice and are raised to believe certain things in a very rigid way.
But those of us who have maintained our atheistic default state can look at those who practice ancient old beliefs and traditions with skepticism.
I, and many others in the world believe that taking away a part of someone's body is inhumane, regardless of whatever you might believe.
You have the power to make your own choices, not the choices of others. It doesn't matter if it's good for a child to have her teeth removed to avoid infections, it's still wrong to make that choice for them.
Everyone needs to live their own life to the full extent or they will not have lived.


There's a famous quote by a Swedish actor that follows: "If our children never opposed or questioned their parents, we'd still be cavemen.
 

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Glademaster said:
hashtag said:
Ultratwinkie said:
hashtag said:
Denamic said:
hashtag said:
I voted the parent's choice, but what I really mean, is religious reasons. I really think you shouldn't circumcise, barring medical reasons, unless it's a religious reason. I just don't see a point to cutting off part of the dick for any non-religious reasons. Seems kinda weird.

"(10 points says poll gets eaten)" You, my friend, are out 10 points. I think I will use the points to buy a vineyard, out in the countryside.
What if the religion says you have to cut off the ears, would you be alright with that too?
What about the nostrils?
Or how about simple ritual scarring?

Keep knives away from infants if there's no medical reason to cut them.
Ears≠pointless piece of skin on your penis. Just saying.
The penis contains 24,000 nerve endings uncircumcised. The procedure takes away 20,000 nerve endings alone. The female clitoris has 8,000. Medical fact.

Where exactly is it "useless?" because you can live without it? That makes most of your body useless flesh.
I didn't know that. DAMMIT HEALTH CLASS, WHY CAN"T YOU TEACH THESE THINGS???
 

Sewora

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Kanlic said:
The notion that there are so many people against circumcision here is baffling to me. Let me run down a couple of points real quick:

1) Its a hygiene thing. If you are walking around all day with a flap of skin wrapping a moist area all day, it could lead to infection, more so if than you cut it off.

2) If you wait until you are older to get circumcised, there is a sensitivity issue that will plague you for a couple of months. I.E. your penis will hurt by just getting touched, so things like wearing underwear will be painful. Imagine trying to have sex during that period -- not worth it.

3) Assuming you live in a 1st world nation, most penises are circumcised at birth. Chicks these days, especially with our society that is fixated on grooming, aren't used to seeing an uncircumcised penis. It looks weird, to them at least.

It seems like everyone here is clenching onto their enlightenment ideal of everyone having a choice and responsibility to choose on their own, but really who gives a fuck. Once it's done it's done, and the differences in lifestyle are essentially zero. This seems like a non-issue to me, so when I here people crying outrage, what I'm really hearing is people who love to be victims and have an intense hatred for mom and dad.

Just quiet down and find some real issue to worry about like getting a job or using your freshly circumcised penis to make babies. On second thought, never have kids. I don't want any more of you self entitled assholes running around.
1) The foreskin helps keep it clean and avoid infections, do some research. Following your logic we'd have to remove the armpits too or stitch the labia majora and minora to the thighs on women to expose the vagina and make it dry. The glans is supposed to be somewhat moist to keep a good pH balance. Please name one gland on the human body that's supposed to be dry and sandy.

2) Why would you do it at all if it serves no purpose? No one is doing it at adult age, it's just stupid.

3) One of the very few first world countries that still has circumsizion as a standard procedure is the US. And even there it's becomming less and less common.
 

Sewora

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this isnt my name said:
Just to make this clear, something ppearsto have went wrong. You quoted me, I am against it. Plase dont think those are my words.
Woah, I'm terribly sorry. Thanks for telling me! Pretty severe error on my behalf, hehe. I've rectified it now though.
 

Sewora

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MasTerHacK said:
Where is the option for: I think circumcision is okay, and it should be practiced?
Right next to the option that women shouldn't have the right to vote.
 

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We had it done on my son, but only because he requested it. J/K But seriously, I really don't feel like playing "Trend Setter" with my sons penis.
 

MasTerHacK

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ravensheart18 said:
Sewora said:
1) The foreskin helps keep it clean and avoid infections, do some research. Following your logic we'd have to remove the armpits too or stitch the labia majora and minora to the thighs on women to expose the vagina and make it dry. The glans is supposed to be somewhat moist to keep a good pH balance. Please name one gland on the human body that's supposed to be dry and sandy.
I agree with you there is no clear medical evidence supporting the need for circumcision for otherwise healthy penises.

But dry and sandy? It's never felt sandy to me lol.
Didn't mean it that way. I just think that it's something that should be done both for medical and hygienic reasons.