Poll: What do you think of DLC today and do you wish you had protested in when it began?

[WeepingAngels]

The state of DLC may be pretty poor, but the issue isn't the principle of the thing. I'm glad it exists, just not how they're utilising it.

It is what it is. You can't have the DLC without the greed in 2015, it was always to become this way.

Thanks for proving my point. You never would have considered a different position. You still can't.

You're welcome. I only wish I knew what your point was.

The same one I mentioned in the beginning of this thread. It's in all caps, so you can't miss it.

Ok well, glad I could help vindicate you.

I believe I have the power of prophecy on my side, for I I already knew that.

Since it's clear you're not after discussion, can you close the thread now?

I was after discussion but I changed my mind. So much hostility in this thread towards me for not making the perfect poll. Yes, we can close it now.

 

[go-10]

if I don't like the DLC I don't buy it so for the most part my experience with DLC has been very positive
so no I don't mind it now and back when it first started appearing I wasn't really able to play games... matter of fact the first DLC I ever bought was the Borderlands The Zombie Island of Dr,Bed and I loved that DLC to death... to undead!

 

[Plinglebob]

DLC has been around for donkeys years but previously they used to be called Expansion Packs because no-one had the internet to be able to download them and the quality has always ranged from awesome to questionable.

 

[DoPo]

The state of DLC may be pretty poor, but the issue isn't the principle of the thing. I'm glad it exists, just not how they're utilising it.

It is what it is. You can't have the DLC without the greed in 2015, it was always to become this way.

Thanks for proving my point. You never would have considered a different position. You still can't.

You're welcome. I only wish I knew what your point was.

The same one I mentioned in the beginning of this thread. It's in all caps, so you can't miss it.

Ok well, glad I could help vindicate you.

I believe I have the power of prophecy on my side, for I I already knew that.

Since it's clear you're not after discussion, can you close the thread now?

I was after discussion but I changed my mind. So much hostility in this thread towards me for not making the perfect poll. Yes, we can close it now.

The "perfect poll"? Nothing in the OP showed you expecting anything other than the binary answers. It's not the poll, it's you. If you even considered there to be anything else than "boo, it's the devil" or "Yay, everything is perfect", then you should have been able to convey it at any point in the OP. You didn't. You didn't even do in subsequent posts.

 

[WeepingAngels]

The state of DLC may be pretty poor, but the issue isn't the principle of the thing. I'm glad it exists, just not how they're utilising it.

It is what it is. You can't have the DLC without the greed in 2015, it was always to become this way.

Thanks for proving my point. You never would have considered a different position. You still can't.

You're welcome. I only wish I knew what your point was.

The same one I mentioned in the beginning of this thread. It's in all caps, so you can't miss it.

Ok well, glad I could help vindicate you.

I believe I have the power of prophecy on my side, for I I already knew that.

Since it's clear you're not after discussion, can you close the thread now?

I was after discussion but I changed my mind. So much hostility in this thread towards me for not making the perfect poll. Yes, we can close it now.

The "perfect poll"? Nothing in the OP showed you expecting anything other than the binary answers. It's not the poll, it's you. If you even considered there to be anything else than "boo, it's the devil" or "Yay, everything is perfect", then you should have been able to convey it at any point in the OP. You didn't. You didn't even do in subsequent posts.

I see, so you don't approve of the thread and instead of choosing not to participate you decided to come in here and shit up the thread. Interesting.

Just wondering, is thread whining ok on this forum?

 

[DoPo]

The state of DLC may be pretty poor, but the issue isn't the principle of the thing. I'm glad it exists, just not how they're utilising it.

It is what it is. You can't have the DLC without the greed in 2015, it was always to become this way.

Thanks for proving my point. You never would have considered a different position. You still can't.

You're welcome. I only wish I knew what your point was.

The same one I mentioned in the beginning of this thread. It's in all caps, so you can't miss it.

Ok well, glad I could help vindicate you.

I believe I have the power of prophecy on my side, for I I already knew that.

Since it's clear you're not after discussion, can you close the thread now?

I was after discussion but I changed my mind. So much hostility in this thread towards me for not making the perfect poll. Yes, we can close it now.

The "perfect poll"? Nothing in the OP showed you expecting anything other than the binary answers. It's not the poll, it's you. If you even considered there to be anything else than "boo, it's the devil" or "Yay, everything is perfect", then you should have been able to convey it at any point in the OP. You didn't. You didn't even do in subsequent posts.

I see, so you don't approve of the thread and instead of choosing not to participate you decided to come in here and shit up the thread. Interesting.

I merely protested it when it began. You support this approach, so it's OK.

 

[WeepingAngels]

The state of DLC may be pretty poor, but the issue isn't the principle of the thing. I'm glad it exists, just not how they're utilising it.

It is what it is. You can't have the DLC without the greed in 2015, it was always to become this way.

Thanks for proving my point. You never would have considered a different position. You still can't.

You're welcome. I only wish I knew what your point was.

The same one I mentioned in the beginning of this thread. It's in all caps, so you can't miss it.

Ok well, glad I could help vindicate you.

I believe I have the power of prophecy on my side, for I I already knew that.

Since it's clear you're not after discussion, can you close the thread now?

I was after discussion but I changed my mind. So much hostility in this thread towards me for not making the perfect poll. Yes, we can close it now.

The "perfect poll"? Nothing in the OP showed you expecting anything other than the binary answers. It's not the poll, it's you. If you even considered there to be anything else than "boo, it's the devil" or "Yay, everything is perfect", then you should have been able to convey it at any point in the OP. You didn't. You didn't even do in subsequent posts.

I see, so you don't approve of the thread and instead of choosing not to participate you decided to come in here and shit up the thread. Interesting.

I merely protested it when it began. You support this approach, so it's OK.

I would say you protested it when it began and then kept going and going and going. Whatever though, you have been vindicated and you win an internet, congratulations. Can we be done now?

 

[WeepingAngels]

DLC has been around for donkeys years but previously they used to be called Expansion Packs because no-one had the internet to be able to download them and the quality has always ranged from awesome to questionable.

Can you name one instance where an expansion pack was available for purchase on the launch day of the game? How about an instance where the expansion was available for pre-order on the launch day of the game?

 

[DoPo]

The state of DLC may be pretty poor, but the issue isn't the principle of the thing. I'm glad it exists, just not how they're utilising it.

It is what it is. You can't have the DLC without the greed in 2015, it was always to become this way.

Thanks for proving my point. You never would have considered a different position. You still can't.

You're welcome. I only wish I knew what your point was.

The same one I mentioned in the beginning of this thread. It's in all caps, so you can't miss it.

Ok well, glad I could help vindicate you.

I believe I have the power of prophecy on my side, for I I already knew that.

Since it's clear you're not after discussion, can you close the thread now?

I was after discussion but I changed my mind. So much hostility in this thread towards me for not making the perfect poll. Yes, we can close it now.

The "perfect poll"? Nothing in the OP showed you expecting anything other than the binary answers. It's not the poll, it's you. If you even considered there to be anything else than "boo, it's the devil" or "Yay, everything is perfect", then you should have been able to convey it at any point in the OP. You didn't. You didn't even do in subsequent posts.

I see, so you don't approve of the thread and instead of choosing not to participate you decided to come in here and shit up the thread. Interesting.

I merely protested it when it began. You support this approach, so it's OK.

I would say you protested it when it began and then kept going and going and going. Whatever though, you have been vindicated and you win an internet, congratulations. Can we be done now?

I couldn't possibly have been done that? You didn't mention "Well, we should have, like, complained once when DLC launched and left it at that".

So meta, ain't it?

 

[Sniper Team 4]

I like DLC. I like when games add some extra story to the original experience. It gives me a reason to go back and pick the game up again. BioShock Infinite, all three Mass Effects, the Dragon Age series, Diablo II, Diablo III, Resident Evil 5, Arkham City, Skyrim, Dead Space 2 and 3, and even the additional spec ops missions for Modern Warfare 3. Heck, I even got and buy the World at War, Black Ops, and Black Ops II's Origins stuff just so I could continue the zombie storyline with the original four characters.

If the DLC looks fun and adds something that I care about, I see no reason not to buy it. I don't like the idea of season passes, because then you're paying for something that you don't even know if it will be good (or even come out), so I've never paid for one. But as far as developers adding in new content, I'm fine with it.

Note: I do not consider weapon skins, new perks, hats, and basically appearance-only stuff to be DLC. That's just stuff, and I never bother with it because yeah, that's a waste of money in my opinion.

 

[baddude1337]

The idea of DLC is good, as it is essentially the same as expansions, but over time we definitely get less for our money. The first Crackdown had it's cheat mode in a totally free update, and you only had to pay a few quid for the extra vehicles and weapons it added. Now? a CoD map pack adds 4-5 small maps for £15.

No games really do big sized DLC, which IMO is what a good DLc should do. Even Skyrim's DLC's were pretty piss poor compared to the series' expansions for it's previous games.

I can't really take a stance either way. I see things like free DLC missions and stuff as great, whereas as gold gun skin for £5 to be ludicrous.

I will say that whenever I see season pass, I know think "I guess I'll wait for the GOTY edition". As is the case with Arkham Knight, though admittedly that does have one damn expensive season pass.

 

[tippy2k2]

I have no problem with DLC. It is nothing but a tool that can be used for good or for evil. It's a hammer; you don't blame the hammer when a carpenter makes you a shitty cabinet, do you?

There are games that do DLC right (Rock Band, Fallout) and there are games that do not do DLC right (Tiger Woods Golf [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.874364-Games-you-refuse-to-buy-because-dlc#21965026], Mass Effect 3). Like everything else I ever buy, I will look at the individual item in question and determine if it's worth buying. If it's not, I don't buy it and if it is, I'll buy it.

 

[Silvanus]

It is what it is. You can't have the DLC without the greed in 2015, it was always to become this way. Did you think DLC was going to take any other path than the one that leads to greed?

It wasn't likely that the model wasn't going to be exploited, no. That's not to say other routes weren't possible. It's still true that the principle of DLC can be applied well, and has sometimes been.

 

[MysticSlayer]

I'm not opposed to DLC, but I'm also not in love with it. It comes down to the individual piece of DLC.

 

[DementedSheep]

It not like you have to buy a season pass. It doesn't even cost you less to do so than buying it when all the DLC is released.

You don't have to buy any DLC or games for that matter but we can still discuss these things. I don't understand the point of this sentence.

The point is not that you can't discus it. It's that I don't see anything particularly unethical about a season pass as it really is just an option and not even a particularly heavily incentivised one.

 

[zerragonoss]

Dlc is fine. I think most the complaints about current dlc trends are actully about modern devlompnet trends, and peolpe just blame the new thing that ask for thier money as opposed to looking at the actull problem. The actuall prolbem is devolpement costs have gotten freaken insane for most AAA games, and companies are doing whatever they can to cut costs or make some more money back. So no the games do not feel half-finshied and short on content beacues they cut it to sell back to you, they feel that way becaues to get them to even that state cost somthing like 10 times as much as game from before dlc became common practice.

 

[Loonyyy]

What if, and I'm shooting totally blind here: THERE FUCKING AREN'T ONLY TWO FUCKING SIDES OF EVERY FUCKING ISSUE?

I dunno I've been thinking and can't put my finger on it but it seems like it could be true. In theory.

I used to take a neutral stance to DLC, weighing each on their respective merits and making a decision on their value or lack thereof.

However, OP has made it clear that either I hate it like poison and want to fight it, or I like it and want to cuddle it, so I guess I love DLC now. Sorry guys. All DLC is amazing.

Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with this, it's really not a fair split there. Some DLC is good. Some DLC is bad. Some of it is worthwhile, some of it is not, and a lot of companies are releasing a lot of low-content, or exploitative crap.

Don't see what "protesting" would have done, and I'm going to keep doing what I've always done: Paying for what I think is worth it. If a game is too short (Maybe because they cut stuff for DLC), then I'm not going to want to pay full price.

If you don't think that shallow games, short games, or just overpriced crap, were being sold before DLC, then you must be very, very new. At least now with youtube, and various publications, you can get an idea of what you're getting first, whether it's a game or DLC.

Also, expansion packs were "DLC", at least in that they were extra content for an extra fee(Barring standalones of course, but then you often end up with content/price decisions again). Deal with it.

 

[-Dragmire-]

Story dlc / character dlc / cosmetic crap, that's all good.

In-game currency, exp boosts and single use items(like crafting supplies) I'm iffy on.

Random packs can fuck right off. I want to buy the thing, not a chance to get the thing. God, the ME3 multiplayer gamble packs pissed me off.

I generally don't play multiplayer so I don't really have an opinion on buying map packs.

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I abstained from the poll since my answer is a bit more... nuanced, than the poll allows.

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[Trippy Turtle]

Nothing wrong with DLC.
And very rarely are the consumers correct when they are bitching about some of the iffier DLC.
The internet has too much of a customer-is-always-right thing going on lately.

 

[FPLOON]

I call DLC by its full name: Doors Left Closed... Why, you ask subconsciously? Because your money is the key that unlocks them and that's usually where I wait until there's no lock on those doors and/or the use of the GOTY[footnote]Game's Omnibus To Yon[/footnote]skeleton key opens those doors for me...

Other than that, on a case-by-case basis, I keep a neutral stance until further notice...