Poll: What do you think of furries?

[DoubleTime]

They have one of the most hateful 'vocal minorities' I have ever had the misfortune of encountering. Practically living embodiments of the words 'Unwarranted Self Importance' and 'Victim Complex', who cannot help but go around and tell everyone they are a furry even when it has, at best, barely any bearing on a conversation; and god help you if you express any manner of distaste towards their preference.

That aside, while I tend to roll my eyes at the idea that being a furry is anything other than a sexual fetish, or when someone tells me they aren't in it for the sexual nature; I have no reason to dislike them. They aren't bad people doing bad things. They are just people doing what they like. There are unfortunates that fall into my above statement, but in general they are people just like everyone else, and should be judged like everyone else, on an individual basis.

The only thing I would say that bothers me about furries (aside from the aforementioned vocal minority) is their art. It's lazy. The vast majority just seems to use anthropomorphic animals as an excuse to not bother with a proper anatomy and seem to think vomiting rainbows all over their work is suitable coloring.

In fairness towards the victim complex thing.

Yes, Yes we do, a very bad one at that, we don't actually get insulted often, or at all to be honest.

Agreed the victim complex is overblown right now.

I have to disagree on the insults though. I have two friends who are edgy about furries. One is okay but makes some jokes, the other just flips out. He's so anti-furry that during the D&D campaign we just had where he and I were the only humans (granted I was a Master of Many Forms, but he had his character think I was pretending to be human), he ranted about all the furries and flipped out at least once a session. It was tense at times considering there were several other pro-fur players, but we just had to let him get it out of his system before we could continue. :/

 

[Alphakirby]

This strip explains everything perfectly.

Spoiler

That comic sums my thoughts on furries quite well. Live and let live,but not in front of me. Also,there's a million other things worse than furries. (Vore for instance)

 

[Corporal Yakob]

I don't know any personally but I think the whole idea of Furry fandom is alright-there are freakier moments from the fanatical elements but thats the same with virtually anything in existence.

Plus the porn!

Oh God the porn! D:

 

[Skuffyshootster]

Whatever rustles your jimmies. I like petite girls, they like animals, others get off to feet...

I really don't care.

 

[Konaerix]

I have no problem with them, they can do whatever the hell they want and no one should bash them for it.
Although they should know when to tone it back in order not to freak out the average person.

 

[Ironic Pirate]

Cool, The escapist crowd is surprisingly tolerant... or is that apathetic? XD

Isn't one of the largest groups on here the furry group?

Anyway, I have mixed feelings. Sometimes it can be adorable, but yiffing and conventions are taking it a bit far. I kinda have to at least put up with them though, because of the overlap with vore. Also, as a voraphile, I'm pretty much not allowed to insult fetishes without being a massive hypocrite.

 

[tthor]

Any man can fap to what they want to fap to, but let's keep it where it belongs: A private situation behind a locked door as a stain on the wall...

And do they do otherwise? Are you implying they fap in public?

No, what I'm saying is that maybe they shouldn't state that they're a furry or even tell us that what they to fap at all. I don't care if you masturbate or what you masturbate to, but in all honesty I don't really need to know either.

They don't tell us what they fap to. At least they don't tell me.

They tell me.
o_o

 

[DoubleTime]

Text wall! (If this needs to be broken up, let me know, I'm just trying not to comment spam)

First let me say I think clearer definitions of the subsets of furries would help the love-it/hate-it debate. It?s hard to deal with something that is so amorphous?

What ever they do in the privacy of their own home is fine. But it isn't something that needs to be public.

This. So very, very this.

I don't care if you [censored] your [censored] inside her [censored] while [censored] [censored] [censored] a clown's [censored] while [censored] and an apple pie. It's just that I don't want to know about it.

TOTALLY made me think of this.



On topic...

Not got a problem with sexual fetishes as a rule, but I have to admit furries piss me off.

I've posted about it before so this may be a little copypasta if I get quoted but the fact is that a majority of furries view it as a sexual thing, surveys prove it and all. That under consideration do I really need to read about someone's sexual fetishes online? Like, right in the middle of my Escapist?

...the fact is that a majority of furries view it as a sexual thing

Incorrect, sir. I know a furry, and he has let know that it definitely isn't a sexual thing. In fact, he also said that you don't need an animal costume to be a furry.

What you did there, do you see it?

Me: "statistically a large proportion of this group are X."
You: "I know one person who isn't X (or says he isn't) and thus none of them are."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom#Sexual_aspects

As per every time I argue this, I have figures that back me up. Looks like out of every 5 furries 4 are jacking it, weird huh? Looks like maybe they don't want to admit to it but also want their fetish pubic.

The only studies I found (yes they were the ones on Wikipedia) had a ridiculously low sample size (300 and less), and even within them only 33% were heavily into sex and 0% saw it as purely sexual. Maybe if there was a larger sample size generalizations could be made, but not with so few.

http://www.furrysociology.net/report.htm

Besides (and no this isn't a "it's not sexual" rant, quite the opposite), for most of the furries I know it's only sexual as a side thing between them and their partner. Fursonas are an alternate persona, who happens to be anthro, and sex is bound to come up at some point because it's human nature. Sex is a part of life, so of course it would crop up in ANY lifestyle and it's unsurprising that parts of lifestyles become incorporated into someone?s sexuality over time because you're steeped in it so much. None of those in the survey were in it for the sex, sex just happened to be something that many felt was a factor of their fur-dom.

I don't mean to go too "OMG! Someone is wrong on the internets!!!11!!1!1!," but seriously, don't say things without backing them up when you've got the internet at your disposal, Google is right there.

Also,

Oh, also they're fun to troll for drama, their community has a load of defectives in it.

I will say they are fun to annoy, because all you need to do is say a few negative things for them to start shouting about fursecution,

I dislike the community because they have one of the largest persecution complexes I have ever seen. Grow up!

EDIT: What you do on your own time is your own business. However, make it public, and I reserve the right to judge/laugh at you

Did you ever think maybe the reason they say they're persecuted is because you won't stop trolling?

As with a lot of things on the internet the vocal minority and weirder fringe groups come out because they can and seem much more prominent than they are.


Also-also,

Furry =/= Beastiality

There's probably overlap somewhere, but most furs I know draw a line with things that aren't sentient. Plus I know a few who think that's downright wrong. I have yet to meet one who's turned on by their pet.

Is social identity really that important to you, even if it can lead to discrimination and hatred?

Short answer, yes. No matter how you define yourself someone, somewhere, will hate you for it. Why not be as true to yourself as possible as long as it causes no one harm?

 

[theguitarhero6]

Idk, I'm friends with one or two of them, what's the big deal?
If you have a higher appreciation for anthropomorphic figures then alright thats you're thing.
And you DO know that being a FURRY is NOT the same thing as being a FETISHIST, right?

And another thing, thats nice that about 14% of participating Escapists want to burn someone to death for their personal tastes, so much for higher standards.

 

[RaNDM G]

People who simply draw anthropomorphic animals are fine. It's the fetishists who draw porn, dress up in suits and screw around with other furries that bother me.

 

[Bags159]

People who simply draw anthropomorphic animals are fine. It's the furries who draw porn, dress up in suits and screw around with other furries that bother me.

Oh man, people are doing things in their spare time that you don't like, and you're really upset about this?

 

[DoubleTime]

The only studies I found (yes they were the ones on Wikipedia) had a ridiculously low sample size (300 and less), and even within them only 33% were heavily into sex and 0% saw it as purely sexual. Maybe if there was a larger sample size generalizations could be made, but not with so few.

http://www.furrysociology.net/report.htm

Besides (and no this isn't a "it's not sexual" rant, quite the opposite), for most of the furries I know it's only sexual as a side thing between them and their partner. Fursonas are an alternate persona, who happens to be anthro, and sex is bound to come up at some point because it's human nature. Sex is a part of life, so of course it would crop up in ANY lifestyle and it's unsurprising that parts of lifestyles become incorporated into someone?s sexuality over time because you're steeped in it so much. None of those in the survey were in it for the sex, sex just happened to be something that many felt was a factor of their fur-dom.

I don't mean to go too "OMG! Someone is wrong on the internets!!!11!!1!1!," but seriously, don't say things without backing them up when you've got the internet at your disposal, Google is right there.

I deliberately discount websites with identifiable bias such as godhatesfurries.com and anything that's written as a PR exercise by furries.

Plus you seem to be mistaking why I find it distasteful. I don't think furries all fuck dressed like mascots or bang their dogs, those are quite clearly insults. I see people on websites with avatars cut from erotic pictures and so many of them claim to have no interest in the sexual aspects, of course I don't believe them. I know it's a sexual fetish normally expressed in private which is why I find it unseemly to splash it all over the Internet as if it's a fucking ethnicity or something.

There's got to be a difference between those who are ambivalent to anthropomorphic animals and someone who cares enough to self-label as a furry. Otherwise the word means nothing.

EDIT: Besides which how many people would you say is a correct sample size for furries? It doesn't matter about the size of a sample as long as the sample is representative. Bigger sample isn't necessary better sample, that sample needs to be representative of the community it samples and frankly they were fucking generous as it is, probably to avoid screams of "bias". To sample the sexuality of a group and deliberately not sample the sexual haunts is overly generous.

I didn't mean to imply you saw it as distasteful, I was merely disagreeing with you that it was a fetish. I see most who identify as furry as having a fandom/sub-culture cultural identity that happens to sometimes overlap with their sexuality, just like how some who are into anime adopt anime fetishes but anime or identifying as "otaku" or such is by no means a fetish itself.

 

[waive]

I honestly don't give a shit. It's a fetish, for Christ's sake. I've got weirder fetishes and I'm surprised I'm not being e-persecuted for my fetishes rather than furries. Oh well, I guess they're just easy targets for trolls.

That's what I always thought. I mean really, furries are the best ass holes could come up with to make fun of? I am dissapointment :|

 

[RatRace123]

Well some of the stuff I've seen over the years is... odd. And apparently you can't be a Sonic fan without being a furry.
Overall, meh it's just something else that people fap to. It doesn't rub me one way or the other.

 

[Doclector]

In a way, I find it fascinating. As I know, furries are the only social group/sub culture to have formed itself mostly on the Internet.

 

[zyzzyx]

I personally believe furry is just a sexual fetish to contain one's zoophilia.

Other than that, I hate them. With a passion, at that.

 

[Rossmallo]

I'm one, but I'm not into the suits and stuff. That's a bit much for me.

 

[zyzzyx]

I'm one, but I'm not into the suits and stuff. That's a bit much for me.

Actually, that's another question. What exactly defines a furry?

 

[Daystar Clarion]

As a group, they tend to have the biggest persecution complex I've ever seen.

Having a fetish doesn't make you special, it makes you normal, and parading it around makes you annoying.