Poll: What do you think of MovieBob/The Game Overthinker?

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Thunderhorse31

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I look at Bob the same way I look at Yahtzee. I appreciate the awareness/entertainment he aims to provide in discussing various gaming/pop-culture/movie related issues, sometimes I agree with him completely (i.e. regular nerds and sports nerds are the same, etc.) while other times I think he's completely talking out of his ass (Metroid). But he's entitled to his opinions, and oftentimes they happen to be interesting to some degree.

Also like Yahtzee, taking him way too seriously is probably inadvisable ("oh noes, he compared Halo to Nazism, what an ass!"), and all in all I'd say his vids are worth a few minutes of my week.
 

Mordwyl

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You can't open up a proper discussion or debate if you only stick to the subjective point of view. I've seen all his videos so far, and I've yet to see him go to the Extra Credits level of open mindedness.
 

Count Igor

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I despise him.
He appears 3 times on my hate list.
But hey, I don't watch his videos so he's free to suck.
 

Nomanslander

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He's got an interesting perspective, but I find myself wanting to argue with him more than not....=/

Probably the biggest problem I have with him is he isn't very open minded. He's either on one side of the fence or the other, and he allows his fanboism get the better of his judgement.

Perfect example was the whole Metroid: Other M argument and how he spun a hefty yarn over the ill developed male perspective of female heroines and how it's our fault we didn't accept Samus' new personality.

Just to cover the fact the game wasn't that good, and the new personality still sucked.

lol
 

Nickolai77

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Of course MovieBob's opinionated and critical, he's a film critic so of course he's going to be like that. If you find his blunt and direct manner offensive then grow some thicker skin, being blunt and direct is what critics do. Sometimes, they just have to say "This game/film/car/album etc is utter shit" because that is what they think. You don't have to agree with them. MovieBob hated the Expendables, i probably would quite like the film if i saw it, but that review did not lessen my opinion of the man.

Disagreeing with a critic should not discredit them, because all he's doing is expressing an opinion. I've read many academic essays on subjects such as history and politics, and i've disagreed with a number of authors, but that doesn't mean i don't think they are discredited as academics. Same goes for critics in any field. MovieBob doesn't like Nintendo, Yahtzee doesn't like JRPG's, Jeremy Clarkson doesn't like Rover and Vauxhall. Critics don't like certain things because they are being critical. Feel free to disagree, but don't think any less of them just because you disagree with them.

I just get the feeling that a number of people in this thread have not got the right idea as to what a critic is. You should only listen to critics if you want to hear their opinion, and not if you want their opinion correlate with your own.


My only problem with MovieBob is that i don't share his interest in super-hero's. That however has not stopped me watching episodes where he covers superhero's. I certainly don't always agree with the man (I agree that sports fans and nerds do actually have a surprising amount in common, but i don't think they should ever come together.) but i certainly find his material interesting, invigorating and entertaining.
 

Srdjan

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Well I don't hate him,but it's closest to how I feel of him, his opinions get on my nerves, he is a massive neoliberal ****. But he usually gets the movie reviews quite good, so I watch only them.
 

Snake Plissken

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To be perfectly honest, I wish he DIDN'T get hired by the Escapist just so he'd spend more time making Game Overthinker video. I prefer those to his film reviews and his latest series.
 

jamesworkshop

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I find him passable, I find his movie related stuff to be more well thought out and reasoned than his overthinker show that seems to be a platform to evangelise himself half the time rather than spend time on the videos actual topic, The game overthinker can digress often to the point of annoyance, escape to the movies tends to stay on track maybe because it's a show with a set lenght rather than overthinker which is more of a pet project.
 

Fire Daemon

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For the GameOverthinker, his Youtube days were much better. He's always been a bit of a fanboy, but back then I found it easy to ignore and not worry about it, but after he got the gig at ScrewAttack I find that I found it harder to ignore his shit, which eventually accumulated into utter dismissal with his Metroid: Other M review.

The entire video is filled with hypocrisy. He uses a straw man argument that claims that those who hate Other M do so because they are Japanophobes and racist, while using a literal straw man to mock the supposed straw men set up by those that hate Other M! That Is One Of The Stupidest Things I Have Ever Heard, how did he get away with bullshit like that? Actually, perhaps he didn't because after Other M I noticed that he seemed to have many more people hate against him.

'The Worst Person' completely solidified my frustrations with him, it seems almost like a parody of completely retarded fanboy arguments, but I fear that he's gone too far for that to possibly be the case.

The Big Picture is a joke. The first episode showed a complete lack of research, so little in fact that it appears a simple Wikipedia search wasn't even conducted and I lost faith straight away. If you're going to call yourself 'The Big Picture' than you've got to live up to that, rather than going in the opposite direction and having a very narrow, biased and pre-defined view of what you're talking about. The episode about the closing of the space program started to draw me back into it, but Bob saying that he'd rather refuel the space program and make a large impact outside our planet (colonise Mars etc) rather than bring about World peace has to be one of the most selfish, narrow and plain idiotic thing I have ever heard.

The faces are poorly done as well. The expressions don't lend themselves well to the high contrast, think lined style and the over all appearance is a creepy one. I think more detailed faces, or perhaps none at all would make it look a lot nicer.

Escape to the Movies is something that I watch every week, but I rarely follow through with his advice. I think the only time I've seen a movie on his recommendation is Shutter Island, and that was because a certain director was name dropped. His advice is generally good though, I just tend to judge a movie's worth watch from the trailers and past history of the director/writters/producer/actors etc and decide to see it from that. I really hate how he always has to make a deal about an attractive female cast, which nearly dominates some reviews. It all comes across as shallow at best or sexist at worst, and coupled with 'Heavens to Metroid' makes it look like he has some issues.

Intermission is alright, but I stay away. It's bland and not all that interesting most of the time, but to his credit he is working on 3 video series while having to write his weekly column. I think that all 3 might improve if he killed off The Big Picture, but I can't be completely sure about that.

Phew, that is my opinion on MovieBob. Over all I recommend checking out his early Game Overthinker on Youtube and Escape to the Movies, but that's about it.
 

tkioz

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His movie reviews are okay, I don't really like the Big Picture as they often get too bogged down in details for something called "The Big Picture", and lately I've just been getting annoyed at The Game Overthinker.

My annoyance at TGO is the lack of any real devils advocacy on his part, he presents his opinion as fact, that's not how do any piece of analysis; you start with your view, find out the counter arguments, then refute them; when he does that it's a good show, but other wise it just shits me.
 

Ironic Pirate

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I like his videos, but his stupid and irritating generalizations about the audiences of movies needs to stop. It's really annoying, like he can't comprehend the concept of either watching something ironically, or watching it for the explosions.

I like the transformers movies. I think they're absolute shit, but I have fun with them, because I get a group of friends together, and we mock the shit out of them, while enjoying the occasional explosion. While as movies, I hate them, I enjoy the experience they bring me, but apparently that makes me a douchebag. Ditto for fans of the Expendables, which he went apeshit on.
 

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I usually respect his opinion, but I'm finding myself disagreeing with it more often than not as of late.

There are two things that do really bug me about MovieBob though.

1) He doesn't address comments directed at him. For example, I PM'd him a while back, and got no response. It was a friendly PM too, just asking if a certain movie was worth seeing. No response.

2) A lot of the time in his recent reviews has been filled with filler. For example, his True Grit review was only about 1.5 minutes long. The rest was filler.
 

Berserker119

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Thunderhorse31 said:
I look at Bob the same way I look at Yahtzee. I appreciate the awareness/entertainment he aims to provide in discussing various gaming/pop-culture/movie related issues, sometimes I agree with him completely (i.e. regular nerds and sports nerds are the same, etc.) while other times I think he's completely talking out of his ass (Metroid). But he's entitled to his opinions, and oftentimes they happen to be interesting to some degree.

Also like Yahtzee, taking him way too seriously is probably inadvisable ("oh noes, he compared Halo to Nazism, what an ass!"), and all in all I'd say his vids are worth a few minutes of my week.
I agree. I watch for entertainment value. He's said some things I don't agree with, but then, so has Yahtzee. I think it's because Bob doesn't have an cool accent... But probably not.
 

Ashcrexl

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it's odd that he has managed to piss off so many people since he started game overthinker and i figured it was only a matter of time until he pissed me off. but now with 3 shows, he has yet to say anything that make me mad. so, i guess i think he's awesome. oh, and he says tons of interesting things that i would never have thought of in all his shows.
 

DoW Lowen

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Like any critic, I may or may not disagree with him. But he always brings up points that I may not have thought of, in which case, he is doing a good job.

But he is a nerd, and he has absolutely no delusions about that. When I feel like deciding on what nerd stuff to look out for, he is an informative source, but if I'm looking for a romantic comedy, there is no way in hell I would go for him. In fact I'm pretty sure he's only done a review on one romantic comedy since he has been here.

I really don't like Big Picture though. It reminded me that Bob Chipman over thinks things way too much. Sure you can make a valid point about Halo's story, but he has a lot of trouble understanding that sometimes you just don't give a shit. No really, the guy needs to relax. But I realized any articulate, anti-social, introverted nerd with access to an audience overstates their opinion far too much, if only to stand out.

Other than that, he is genuinely a clever guy. I do agree with many of his points, although he needs to reel it back a bit. And he is a niche reviewer, with a very specific tastes - so if you find yourself disagreeing vehemently with a single point, just let it go.
 

DustyDrB

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If I don't have anything nice to say about a person, I shouldn't say anything at all.

But really, it's not what he says more than how he says it that rubs me the wrong way.
 

Manicotti

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He makes some good points from time to time, when he bothers sticking to facts instead of opinionated ranting, and I still watch all of his videos. But he isn't funny! He could be much more if he left out the openly sophomoric ogling and exaggerated his ranting to the point where it's obvious he's not taking them seriously.