Poll: What do you think of World of Warcraft?

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antibonk

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Don't play WoW anymore. I used to be pretty hard core into it for a few years. I quit shortly after burning crusade came out. Few months later I started playing it again, and now about three months ago I stopped playing. This time I wont be going back. Death Knights look cool, but its going to be the same old grind for yet more gear. Got plenty of other good games I am playing now to even miss it.
 

Mariena

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Played WoW, got Burning Crusade. Saw it completely rape everyone has ever worked for. They set one foot in the Outlands, and poof! All those nice and shiny rare items you grinded reputation for sooooo badly.. replaced by a green dropped by a shitty worm.

But whatever, my WoW days are far behind me, fortunately :p
 

TOFUM4ST3R

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Stammer said:
Honestly, WoW only has the biggest playerbase for the following reasons:
1. It has "Warcraft" in the title. Warcraft was a good game.
2. Games increase in population exponentially. The more people that are in it, the more people that will join.
3. It is nearly impossible to get removed from the game unless you blatantly -try- to get banned.
4. Real-money trade is actually encouraged instead of a bannable offense. Cheating makes games easier and more approachable to newcomers.
5. The game is very easy and offers little in the way of skill. This means that a five-year-old kid can easily win in a fight agaisnt a twenty-year-old man.

I have played World of Warcrap. I have played multiple MMORPG-genre games. And honestly, out of every one I've played, I've liked most of them. The worst one I played was WoW. WoW had no originality in anything (honestly, look at the title of this game's expansion, doesn't it sound suspiciously like BFME2: "Rise of the Litch-King"?).
First, Gold farming is against the terms of service, and is a bannable offense if you get caught. Second, if the game is so easy and requires no skill, why can't a level 1 player kill a level 70 player? (Also, what does age have to do with power or skill?) And in case you didn't realize, the Lich King is a completely different entity from the Witch King. Your unneeded puns and outdated and/or biased statements indicate that you probably only played for a short time, and filled in the blanks with misinformation.

By the way, "World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King" sound nothing like "The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth II: Rise of the Witch (Not Litch, which is not an actual word) King." For one thing, it is more succinct.

(My apologies if this offends anyone, I just want to correct some fallacies.)
 

mintsauce

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I kicked the habit about a year ago and probably won't be going back. It was a wonderful experience while it lasted, but once you get to Level 70, it all just becomes a massive exercise in futility. You may see a bit of new content here and there if you're dedicated enough to go raiding, but apart from that, it's nothing more than a timesink. There are better and more interesting gaming experiences out there now.

And by the way, Deadman Walkin - Blizzard have confirmed that the gear situation in WOTLK will be the same as BC. You'll be getting green equipment to replace your BC epics in no time.
 

Serious_Stalin

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It was very fun, before BC I was in a high end guild, and the co-operation and team work made the game feel very fun. As if you were part of something. In that respect I miss playing it. And I almost feel like going back to it.
On a whole it is very very time consuming if you want to have any proper fun with it. When I heard fury warriors could wield 2 2handers I almost went back.
 

Stammer

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TOFUM4ST3R said:
First, Gold farming is against the terms of service, and is a bannable offense if you get caught. Second, if the game is so easy and requires no skill, why can't a level 1 player kill a level 70 player? (Also, what does age have to do with power or skill?) And in case you didn't realize, the Lich King is a completely different entity from the Witch King. Your unneeded puns and outdated and/or biased statements indicate that you probably only played for a short time, and filled in the blanks with misinformation.

By the way, "World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King" sound nothing like "The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth II: Rise of the Witch (Not Litch, which is not an actual word) King." For one thing, it is more succinct.
First, if real money trade is a bannable offense, why do they advertise for it ON BLIZZARD-ENDORSED SITES? Secondly, that's a really dumb analogy. Seriously. "If skill isn't required, then why can't a level 1 beat a level 70?" Did you actually ask that question? I'm fairly sure that can be easily answered by "a large increase in stats".

Thirdly, I'm thoroughly sorry for clearly stepping on private property here. If I knew misspelling words on an online forum once in a blue moon was such a hate-gathering topic, I never would have accidentally added a "T" to the word "Lich". (I'd also like to point out that the original poster made the same mistake)

Rise of the Witch King
Wrath of the Lich King
Just tell me there's no resemblance here.

I think this is the reason why I hate World of Warcrap as much as I do. All of these fanboys come up with incredibly easy-to-rebut arguments that have little to no relevance to anything ever. Like damn. I'm sorry for actually expecting someone to come up with an intelligent argument, but instead I'm faced with "Why can't a level 1 beat a level 70?"
 

Jaythulhu

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Doesn't take much skill to click one button after the next. I did enjoy wow for a while, although it was mostly a rather pretty 3d chat app that i used to catch up with mates now living abroad. If blizzard's previous expansion and patches are any indicator, then right after release the servers will be flooded with gnome deathknights and so many bugs that probably half the subscribers won't be able to play.

That said, if my company was raking in a bit over 150mil USD per month, I wouldn't really care about quality control either.
 

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Deadman Walkin post=9.76605.911663 said:
Everyday I am hammered by the constant ad's and friends talking about the new expansion set coming out and what they were going to do when they start to play it. I myself have not played World of Warcraft for about 7 months, and I find it annoying to hear the buzz of the expansion set. Sure, I can understand they are excited to explore a new and interesting continent, and plenty of new things that you can do, but I can remember myself thinking the same thing when The Burning Crusade came out. When I reached level 70, I saw just how the game had mulilated the gear I had worked so hard to achieve, quickly replacing the High Warlord Gear I spent months raising my rank for with level 66 greens. Is anyone feel that this will be different? That this will be a step higher for the game quality?
yet more of the WOW hate, i can say positively now that you either love WOW or hate it hahahaha but its all for none, if you hate it no matter what we say or what BLizzard does you wont be won over and same goes for the lovers
 

Ranooth

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Played it, got 70, hated the people that thought raiding and grinding was more important then breathing, left, started playing WAR online, happy :D
 

Gotham Soul

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Eh...I'm not looking too forward to another expansion, especially with the way TBC completely killed the chance of doing old school raids. I know that I'm not going to get it on release date; definitely not. Maybe three or four months afterwards when all my friends have moved up enough for me to start caring.

But oh, how I will miss Hyjal.
 

Stammer

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TOFUM4ST3R said:
If the game is so easy and requires no skill, why can't a level 1 player kill a level 70 player?
This line made it onto my 'quote of the week' for this week. I actually laughed at it for like half an hour before I went to bed.
 

Crunchy English

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The Title of this got me excited, I thought I would have a realistic opportunity to attack WoW on a deeply personal level while hiding behind the anonymity provided by the internet. Call it cowardice, but given the lockstep zealotry of your average WoW fan, it's really my only option.

As the topic is about the expansion though, why would they change a system that makes them truckloads of money? I'm sure they'll keep adding content to keep the really hardcore players paying through the nose. I mean, if you're going to pump an ungodly amount of time and money into a game, it might as well show you something new every couple years. But there won't be any major changes if they can help it.
 

TOFUM4ST3R

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Stammer said:
TOFUM4ST3R said:
First, Gold farming is against the terms of service, and is a bannable offense if you get caught. Second, if the game is so easy and requires no skill, why can't a level 1 player kill a level 70 player? (Also, what does age have to do with power or skill?) And in case you didn't realize, the Lich King is a completely different entity from the Witch King. Your unneeded puns and outdated and/or biased statements indicate that you probably only played for a short time, and filled in the blanks with misinformation.

By the way, "World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King" sound nothing like "The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth II: Rise of the Witch (Not Litch, which is not an actual word) King." For one thing, it is more succinct.
First, if real money trade is a bannable offense, why do they advertise for it ON BLIZZARD-ENDORSED SITES? Secondly, that's a really dumb analogy. Seriously. "If skill isn't required, then why can't a level 1 beat a level 70?" Did you actually ask that question? I'm fairly sure that can be easily answered by "a large increase in stats".

Thirdly, I'm thoroughly sorry for clearly stepping on private property here. If I knew misspelling words on an online forum once in a blue moon was such a hate-gathering topic, I never would have accidentally added a "T" to the word "Lich". (I'd also like to point out that the original poster made the same mistake)

Rise of the Witch King
Wrath of the Lich King
Just tell me there's no resemblance here.

I think this is the reason why I hate World of Warcrap as much as I do. All of these fanboys come up with incredibly easy-to-rebut arguments that have little to no relevance to anything ever. Like damn. I'm sorry for actually expecting someone to come up with an intelligent argument, but instead I'm faced with "Why can't a level 1 beat a level 70?"
You do realize I do not play World of Warcraft, do you? Also, "Blizzard endorsed sites" does not mean "Blizzard owns the sites," or "Blizzard has control over the advertisements of the sites." "A large increase in stats" also does not solve the question I had asked previously. (Hint: the level 1 person would then be a level 70) What I was trying to do here was question your statement that a 5 year old could beat a 30 year old man.

However, if such an analogy really inhibits you from forming a reasonable response, then here: How can a 5 year old kid beat a 30 year old man? How is age an indicator of skill? What does a "[possession]of the[noun]" title mean in regards to originality? (It is a title, not an indicator of the content. Last time I checked, the Witch King lived in a very hot place, on the same continent as the protagonists, as the leader of the Ring Wraiths, while Arthas lives on a completely different continent in a very cold (and northern) place, as the leader of the undead Scourge army. If Arthas, however, get slain by "no man," I would begin to have problems, but it seems that it will be more likely he will be killed by 25 people working together.)

The comment regarding intelligent arguments is also an interesting statement, it would be nice if you actually followed it instead of calling me a fanboy, dismissing most of my arguments due to arbitrary and/or pointless reasons, and trying to rationalize a spelling error I was not even being serious about. (Seriously, I'm actually more of a HL2 fanboy.) I was just attempting to correct errors in your statements.
 

Stammer

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First of all, http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml. That's the site I was referring to as "Blizzard-endorsed". And to be honest, I'm extraordinarily pissed off that I had to visit that site to show you what I meant by it.

Second of all, I don't get it. First you ask me why a level 1 couldn't beat a level 70, so I answered you "because a level 70 would have higher stats and abilities", and then you say "if the level 1 person had higher stats and abilities, he'd be level 70 too"? What?

I'm just saying that I have a cousin who let's her four-year-old daughter play the game, and even she could win in a PvP match because the game requires no skill at all. I'm saying that a person who's been playing the game for years but has cruddy equipment will nine times out of ten lose to a person who simply went online and bought a character with the best equipment in the game, even if he had no prior knowledge of how to play the game.

And what are you talking about in your last paragraph? I argued every one of your points, that's not dismissing them. I even argued the point that -was- ridiculous. (And then proceeded to laugh at it for half an hour.) And honestly, you can't really get emotions from text solely, but from what you were saying in that text, it sounded like my using the word "Litch" instead of the word "Witch" was a huge topic in your debate.

Finally, it's not so much the fact that it's "[possession] of the [noun]", but more the fact that it is "[possession] of the [rhymes with noun] King". To be honest, I don't think it's very possible to give Blizzard any credit for their titles. Warcraft is likely a spoof on Warhammer, the game that it copied, and clearly StarCraft is just a spoof on that. What I find worth the most giggles is that Blizzard hasn't once ever created its own game from scratch.
 

Alido

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No idea how it will end up and never really understood the whole business with speculating so I don't do it. I kinda like WoW even played it for a while got a char up to 70 and then got bored and decided that paying for it was not worth and decided to play on an illegal server (Yeah I did sue me). And now I play not online games while I wait for it to come out on my server have some fun with it and then the vicious cycle repeats with the next patch (This got off-topic)
 

TOFUM4ST3R

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First of all, http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml. That's the site I was referring to as "Blizzard-endorsed". And to be honest, I'm extraordinarily pissed off that I had to visit that site to show you what I meant by it.

I don't see any gold farmer ads, just an 404 File Not Found.

Second of all, I don't get it. First you ask me why a level 1 couldn't beat a level 70, so I answered you "because a level 70 would have higher stats and abilities", and then you say "if the level 1 person had higher stats and abilities, he'd be level 70 too"? What?

My apologies, the wording of that statement led me to believe you were referring to the level 1 player.

I'm just saying that I have a cousin who let's her four-year-old daughter play the game, and even she could win in a PvP match because the game requires no skill at all. I'm saying that a person who's been playing the game for years but has cruddy equipment will nine times out of ten lose to a person who simply went online and bought a character with the best equipment in the game, even if he had no prior knowledge of how to play the game.

You do realize that it would require skill to get that high level of gear, and that anyone who had played that long would not only have awesome gear, but could probably run circles around some eBay noob, right? Your cousin's daughter could very easily have been playing against people who sucked at the game, or was playing an overpowered class (rogue). I can agree that playing a rogue takes absolutely no skill.

And what are you talking about in your last paragraph? I argued every one of your points, that's not dismissing them. I even argued the point that -was- ridiculous. (And then proceeded to laugh at it for half an hour.) And honestly, you can't really get emotions from text solely, but from what you were saying in that text, it sounded like my using the word "Litch" instead of the word "Witch" was a huge topic in your debate.

It wasn't, but I could say something similar in regards to your "intelligent" response to my question. Also, you are beginning to sound like you hate Blizzard in general for its "unoriginality."

Finally, it's not so much the fact that it's "[possession] of the [noun]", but more the fact that it is "[possession] of the [rhymes with noun] King". To be honest, I don't think it's very possible to give Blizzard any credit for their titles. Warcraft is likely a spoof on Warhammer, the game that it copied, and clearly StarCraft is just a spoof on that.

First of all, a lich is different than a witch. Secondly, StarCraft has a completely different setting and story. I did not see anything related to Warhammer Fantasy Battle in that game.

What I find worth the most giggles is that Blizzard hasn't once ever created its own game from scratch.

Could you provide more examples? I would need you to elaborate on such a generalization of a statement to confirm its validity. (The "Blizzard is not original at all" statement.)
 

Stammer

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In response to your third paragraph:
Not if you buy your character or are taken through large areas. And honestly, it's not really skill that helps otherwise either. You have gear "A", which is good enough to get gear "B", which then makes you good enough to get gear "C", all the way up to "?", which is the best gear in the game for that specific class.

In response to most of it in general:
Has Blizzard ever actually created a video game? I mean, yeah they have. They produced games, they put their name on games. But have they actually completely created a game from scratch? Even one?

Blizzard was the company put in charge to make the Warhammer RTS game. They used their story, they used their characters, they made a good game. The Warhammer guys decided at the last minute to cancel it. Did Blizzard scrap the idea? No. They made Warcraft! And what spawned off of that? Certainly not Warhammer40k. It's StarCraft! Okay, I know that StarCraft and WH40k have like nothing in common, but it seems a little funny that they made a game that was similar, only in space.

Diablo 1 was going to be made by another company. Blizzard bought them out. They claimed the game as their own.

So that's all three of their game series...
Not one of them begun on their own.

Warcraft II and III are sequels.
Diablo II and III are sequels.
World of Warcrap is a sequel.
StarCraft II will be a sequel. Actually, no it won't. It's going to be like StarCraft 1, but you will have to buy it three more times. Woo!
StarCraft: Ghost isn't even good enough to call a similarity, it's just a blatant rip-off to Command and Conquer: Renegade. A futuristic-based RTS game turned into a FPS game where the main character is a commando who gets to ride in the different tanks, etc, in the RTS game.
 

hippieshopper

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gibboss28 said:
TJ rock 101 said:
(Warlocks get a teleport spell, really looking forward to that one ^^)
Here's hoping its a portal spell so you guys can suffer with the spam of 'TP TO IF PLZ!'
I hate that. People need to realize that mages aren't vending machines!!
 

Yegargeburble

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I am close to not playing WoW anymore...I used to like the game, but as I played and got my first 70 character, I got to see the people that see the game as a second job. For example, once I was told I had to attend 80% of raids, though I am a college student, or I would get kicked out of the guild I was in. Needless to say, I left. I also saw that those people make up most of the high level population and take the game much too seriously. To me, that just makes the game boring to play, and I end up playing Pandemic 2 in the end anyways.

Anyways, the new expansion will not harm or help the game.