Fact: 70% of Freud's theories are bullshit. Also, Saudi Arabia is a more sexually repressed country. So are most of the countries in southeast Asia. And not everything boils down to sexual tension. There's a myriad of factors.Dethpixie said:
Poll: What is wrong with America?
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Americans. The people who vote are misinformed, the people who don't vote are cynical, the leaders that are voted in work only for their party rather than for their people, and those that want to make change don't have the money to get elected since election campaigns take four years of planning and millions of dollars. Also, add that with the waning superiority idea of "we won the War!" and "we beat the commies!", the threat of us losing our status as a global superpower, the Baby Boomers becoming disillusioned with what they grew up with and looking back at "the good old days", and the growing distrust between government and civilian groups, then you can see why we're our own worst enemy.
Sorry... I'm in a bit of a cynical mood. I'm normally more optimistic and hopeful for the future.
Sorry... I'm in a bit of a cynical mood. I'm normally more optimistic and hopeful for the future.
Average teacher salary in Wisconsin: $46,390
Governor's salary: $137,092.
Given that a teacher's job is much, much, much more demanding than a politician's, I would advocate them getting paid much more. Of course, the second you have to threaten to fire teachers if they do not stop protesting against a legislation which would remove what little union rights they have, and force them to get even less compensation for their jobs, you are in the wrong. This governor is less than scum, he is entirely worthless vermin. If he had any sense of decency, he would stop this legislation, have unions (I'm really only advocating the teacher's union here, but well...might as well let them all keep their rights) keep their rights, and then kill himself. Yes, I'm entirely serious.
'course, the idiot governor doesn't piss me off nearly as much as the fox news/commentator moron, who claimed that teachers shouldn't be paid as much because "they don't work as hard." The second you remove the incentive for well educated and qualified people to enter the teaching profession, you doom the next generation to failure. There is no excuse for spewing such bullshit. In any sane society, that idiot (I think it was Megan Kelly), would be burned at the stake before a cheering mob, but sadly this country is getting more retarded by the day...
Link re the second rant: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/04/jon-stewart-teachers-walls-street-fox_n_831243.html
Governor's salary: $137,092.
Given that a teacher's job is much, much, much more demanding than a politician's, I would advocate them getting paid much more. Of course, the second you have to threaten to fire teachers if they do not stop protesting against a legislation which would remove what little union rights they have, and force them to get even less compensation for their jobs, you are in the wrong. This governor is less than scum, he is entirely worthless vermin. If he had any sense of decency, he would stop this legislation, have unions (I'm really only advocating the teacher's union here, but well...might as well let them all keep their rights) keep their rights, and then kill himself. Yes, I'm entirely serious.
'course, the idiot governor doesn't piss me off nearly as much as the fox news/commentator moron, who claimed that teachers shouldn't be paid as much because "they don't work as hard." The second you remove the incentive for well educated and qualified people to enter the teaching profession, you doom the next generation to failure. There is no excuse for spewing such bullshit. In any sane society, that idiot (I think it was Megan Kelly), would be burned at the stake before a cheering mob, but sadly this country is getting more retarded by the day...
Link re the second rant: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/04/jon-stewart-teachers-walls-street-fox_n_831243.html
I'm more disturbed by how much the state pays their retired workers in the form of pensions and benefits then anything.
Teachers can get paid well if they seek the proper employment (IE outside of government run public schooling systems) For public school teachers, their unions hurt more then they help. And no one seems to realize these teachers aren't working for a full year. You hear them getting second jobs, but I have to sit and wonder why not?
I dated a teacher for a while and she budgeted her money properly. She knew it wasn't a career with which she'd get rich, but found the work personally rewarding.
I mean these aren't people who are meant to be geniuses... Teachers are more less just expected to be tools to unleash and foster the latent talents in others.
/prepare for flaming retorts from people who are not, and have never been employed by the education system in America.
Otherwise though, yeah that Governor is pretty lame. But then again are there really politicians who hold seats in office who AREN'T shady?
Teachers can get paid well if they seek the proper employment (IE outside of government run public schooling systems) For public school teachers, their unions hurt more then they help. And no one seems to realize these teachers aren't working for a full year. You hear them getting second jobs, but I have to sit and wonder why not?
I dated a teacher for a while and she budgeted her money properly. She knew it wasn't a career with which she'd get rich, but found the work personally rewarding.
I mean these aren't people who are meant to be geniuses... Teachers are more less just expected to be tools to unleash and foster the latent talents in others.
/prepare for flaming retorts from people who are not, and have never been employed by the education system in America.
Otherwise though, yeah that Governor is pretty lame. But then again are there really politicians who hold seats in office who AREN'T shady?
Fact: 65% of people will take a clearly silly comment too seriously.Vredesbyrd67 said:
Okay, clearly people are taking me more seriously than I intended. I'm aware of the plight of women in the Middle East and of the sexual repression in Southeast Asia. I think what bugs me about America is the dichotomy between the sexuality of their media and the puritan nature of their culture/government, as well as how they've managed to make sex a commodity thanks to body sprays, designer clothes, etc.Nalesnik said:
Governor fabricated the deficit (by genereous tax break for the big, insanely rich corporate/industrial guys), then blamed the public unions for it.
Public unions dont cost that much, it wont fix the deficit to bring them down (at all).
The public unions are already underpaid as it is (compared to equivalent of the private sector)
Divided the public opinion with it (with disinformation and all that)
.. just go on reddit if you want more data. Plenty there, easy to get.
Public unions dont cost that much, it wont fix the deficit to bring them down (at all).
The public unions are already underpaid as it is (compared to equivalent of the private sector)
Divided the public opinion with it (with disinformation and all that)
.. just go on reddit if you want more data. Plenty there, easy to get.
I like how you talk about delusional and then get on ranty tirades about how you should nuke America because you dont like our news stories. Get over yourself. There's nothing flawed about America that isn't there in some degrees in any other country, other than increased economic and political clout.Laurie Barnes said:
Don't apologize for having an articulate response that is longer than a few sentences, not to mention it is actually related to the discussion so bonus. Its nice to know that some Americans aren't going to flame me just because my thread seems to take and Anti-America stance, (which it probably does).Atticus89 said:
Look up the exact statistics of how many women in the Middle East actually choose to wear Burkas(sp?) you will be surprised.Nalesnik said:
I would side with the unions. I am not too fond of Teacher's Unions (for personal reasons), but I am less fond of taking away collective bargaining rights from state employees. That just reeks of a desire to return to the good ol' days of union-less, industrialized America to me, and returning to those days is a bad thing.
You said you'd be ok with killing everyone in the country, so yeah, maybe you do come off as smarmy and biased, just a tic? Besides, more folks are for the Unions than against (in this case), including Michigan voters.Laurie Barnes said:
That being said, Unions suck, in my opinion. The very fact that you're not allowed to work unless you're in them kinda takes away your voice.
i take a whole different view of that. my biggest question after reading that, is why and how did the union not keep the first teacher from being fired? seems to me that's a crime of omission rather than commission.Zaik said:
I AM SERIOUSLY GETTING FRUSTRATED WITH PEOPLE THINKING I WANT TO NUKE THE USA. Any moderately literate chimp should realize that I started this thread because in a moment of anger I thought it might be ok to blast America off the map, and then I realized this thought was wrong and made this thread instead to convince myself that I was wrong. ITS RIGHT THERE IN THE FIRST POST, RIGHT FUCKING THERE!loremazd said:
If you believe that I actually want to see America nuked, you need to read my post again.
And this is why unions are great. Here in Sweden we regulations regarding when and why you're allowed to fire someone partially thanks to unions for example "Talked too much about her personal life" isn't an acceptable excuse to fire someone.Zaik said:
mxfox408 said:
The issue isn't the cuts, they pretty much said they would accept the cuts but still want to keep their collective bargaining rights. Without them they have little to no chance of getting the cuts removed in a more prosperous time.Kuilui said:
The Governor didn't go for that. He wants to take both, because the right to ask for your old salary back in future when the world has money again is expensive apparently.
I dont believe that, I do think that you put it in erreneously to insult and belittle, and that makes you come off as smarmy and biased, and that is why people are flaming you.Laurie Barnes said:
In short, make your god damned point without being a smartass, and you wont be treated like a smartass. It doesn't do anything to you point other than make you look bad.
First things first, OP calm down. On multiple occasions you have written something that has made me say "u mad" in my head. This is a bad sign. Yes our media portrays America as a "cesspool of the ignorant." Yes, it pisses every educated American, which is more then you think, off. But, you must remember what you are talking about is the MASS media, the mainstream. Do as what most Americans should do and look for independent News sources, because all the mainstream ones are full of shit.
The quickest way to answer your question is most Americans do not value education as much as they should.
I personally am very on the fence about the issue, because the Unions are an issue, just not in the way that you see them as. It is not the teachers that are taking this money, it is the Administrators. The Governor is way in the wrong though because the Union protects the teachers (edit: sorry its was unclear) from getting fucked by an every increasing apathy for education in the US.
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The quickest way to answer your question is most Americans do not value education as much as they should.
I personally am very on the fence about the issue, because the Unions are an issue, just not in the way that you see them as. It is not the teachers that are taking this money, it is the Administrators. The Governor is way in the wrong though because the Union protects the teachers (edit: sorry its was unclear) from getting fucked by an every increasing apathy for education in the US.
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Yes, one hundreds times yes.Atticus89 said: