Poll: What is your definition of "Camping"

[Proton Packmule]

Snipers are allowed to camp in my eyes.

Very generous of you, but i can't imagine there's much room in your eyes!

OT: yeah, hanging out in the same spot and easily countered with a 'nade, and not getting angry and rushing, because that makes you a bigger target.

And really, i think the 'sleeping in a tent' gag is done now. Really, really done.

 

[sephiroth1991]

There is a difference between Camping and Holding ground. Camping is taking advantage of blind spots in a small area and continuing to use the spot until you die or moving on to find another blind spot. Holding ground is when you Defend a particular area while other players converge on your location both enemies and friendly, this can take a variety of positions from using blind spots and cover to keep the enemies at bay so your team mates can join.

 

[angry_flashlight]

My definition of "true" camping (as opposed to the common usage of a random gaming insult) is holding a particular point on the map that has no other purpose than getting kills with little risk to the killer. In objective based games, I fully expect the enemies to camp their objectives like motherfuckers as that is a solid way to win (albeit a sometimes annoying one). In deathmatch type games however, hiding behind the fridge with your shotgun out doesn't help your team if you only get a kill every 5 minutes. You might be safe but contributing 2 kills to your team isn't going to get you the win of your opponents wise up to your position and avoid you like the plague.

Moving around the map carefully will usually yield more kills and have more interesting games as standing on the second floor of with a mine on the/an entrance while you gaze somewhere else is really boring. I sometimes patrol a particular area due to it being a high traffic area to rack up kills, but I rarely stay in one place for too long because I find it boring. Plus when you completely curb-stomp your opponents they can't dismiss you a "dirty camping *****" if you were on the move the whole game.

 

[Adultism]

Camping is a word I like to scream down my mic along with various expletives when someone kills me.

I agree.

 

[smithy_2045]

My definition of "true" camping (as opposed to the common usage of a random gaming insult) is holding a particular point on the map that has no other purpose than getting kills with little risk to the killer. In objective based games, I fully expect the enemies to camp their objectives like motherfuckers as that is a solid way to win (albeit a sometimes annoying one). In deathmatch type games however, hiding behind the fridge with your shotgun out doesn't help your team if you only get a kill every 5 minutes. You might be safe but contributing 2 kills to your team isn't going to get you the win of your opponents wise up to your position and avoid you like the plague.

Moving around the map carefully will usually yield more kills and have more interesting games as standing on the second floor of with a mine on the/an entrance while you gaze somewhere else is really boring. I sometimes patrol a particular area due to it being a high traffic area to rack up kills, but I rarely stay in one place for too long because I find it boring. Plus when you completely curb-stomp your opponents they can't dismiss you a "dirty camping *****" if you were on the move the whole game.

It does help your team though, because you're not dying and giving the other team kills. Your contribution is still positive.

 

[Digitaldreamer7]

I define camping as sitting at the enemy spawn point and killing players before they can get a chance to see you.

responses to some shit people are saying here...

Snipers sitting somewhere picking people off are NOT camping.... they are SNIPING. you can't run and gun with a sniper. A good sniper will only get 1 or 2 kills in his/her location before moving to another anyways.

Hiding in a building catching people running through IS NOT CAMPING. if you are picking off players by going on the offensive in a building that has high traffic it's SMART GAME PLAYING not camping. Holding out in choke points on a map isn't the players fault.. it's the designers, they made the map with a GREAT TACTICAL ADVANTAGE that more skilled players are able to hold better then you. So stop QQing and get a better team/better skills.

 

[Grouchy Imp_v1legacy]

It's all in the mindset.

If you KNOW somebody is right around the corner, thinking "If I wait here and he comes around the corner, I'll kill him.", that's not camping.

If you go to the corner thinking "Someone will come through here EVENTUALLY.", THAT'S camping.

Pretty much bang on. The only thing I could add to this is that in addition to mindset it is also related to the situation. For example, staying in one area for a prolonged time waiting for someone to come along in a Deathmatch is camping. Staying in one area for a prolonged time waiting for someone to come along in King of the Hill is defending the objective.

 

[Lazy Kitty]

It's a defensive strategy.
There's nothing wrong with this, if it has a purpose.
Like guarding something. (Bombs, flags, hostages, choke points, anything else which when under control by your side gives your side some kind of advantage towards victory...)

Why go to the enemy, when the enemy will come to you where you have an advantage of all your defenses?
Unless there's something in the enemy's base you need.
Still, don't leave your base undefended.

Anyway, I'm not saying you should always camp, just do whatever gives your side the biggest advantage towards victory and the smallest disadvantage.

Why would people dislike having to camp?
Because it can be boring.

Why do people dislike it when other people camp?
Because campers kill you, thus getting an advantage towards victory for their side, while they don't know how to deal with it.

 

[Hippobatman]

Other:

"Completely legitimate tactical manouver that requires one to hold still in one secluded area of a given map."

Other definition---> BS
Sorry but it is not legitimate. Holding a point, that is fine. But hiding in a corner, and waiting for people to walk by and then kill them is not. Big difference: I can kill someone holding a point as long as I am observant, I cannot kill a camper with normal weapons (except for grenades) even when I am being observant.

Disagree if you must, but I still think camping is 100% legit.

And you can kill campers if you're careful enough. You're an easy target for them if you, like most, just go on rushing through any given map.

However, if you get take your time learning the map, good sniping spots and choke points, you can anticipate where a camper might be.

In addition, the kill cam feature gives you valuable insight in a person's playstyle.

The way I see it, there are pros and cons with every strategic style:

- Reckless: Rushing through the map. Might score you many kills fast, but odds for survival are generally not very good in the longer run.
- Stealthy: Navigates slowly through the map while capping off others without being seen or heard. Also observant of possible traps, sniping spots and choke holds. Odds for survival higher.
- Camper: Holds one area. May kill several before players realize he's just sitting there. Odds for survival decreases with time.

The three are somewhat interchangable.

But the thing is that you can camp in games. There is no terms of service or conduct, or ingame rules, that states that "Camping is banned". That is why it is a legitimate manouver, and players have to take the necessary precautions.

 

[MrJoyless]

If a match is going very poorly, as in i join a match in progress and we are down over 30 kills in TDM or something, i find it perfectly reasonable to go to my favorite area on the map and control what directions i have to monitor.

It also fits my playstyle to play in a more narrow area since i am very new to Black Ops and almost constantly party with extremely aggressive players i tend to be the one that sits back with hardline and keep them supplied with UAVs and Blackbirds and contribute to their smashing the other team in the face with bullets.

But in all honestly crawling up onto some damn obscure rail somewhere and sitting in one spot it just silly, it works a bit better in Hardcore because of the lack of a killcam but in Core once i see where you are you can expect to get stuck or sniped by the next encounter we have.

 

[beema]

Staying in one spot, somewhat hidden, and killing people before they see you... more or less.

I don't have a problem with camping as long as the person doing it is a) actually being helpful to the rest of their team, b) it makes sense for their class (ie, sniper), or c) makes sense within the context (eg, you are the last alive on your team in CS:S and you camp the hosties).

If however there's someone camping when their team needs them to assist in an assault, or it's just some douche sitting next to an ammo box shooting everyone that walks by with a grenade launcher, then it's unacceptable.

 

[OliverTwist72]

I honestly don't understand peoples hatred with campers especially when games now have ways to combat them. In MW2 I camp on a couple of maps depending on how the match is going, but a flashbang/grenade/rpg/stun grenade/2 people rushing at me will kill me, or if you know I'm camping there don't go in there! I love it when I get to kill the same guy 5 times in a row. The game gives you tools to flush out campers yet people ignore them and just complain.

Honestly, I don't understand why people have a problem with tactics that work. It's like you want everyone to run around in an open field with only shotguns. I'm doing it why isn't everyone else you campers!

Altho this is CoD specific, why do people complain about killstreaks as well? Cold Blooded and Javelins are in the game, use them.

 

[Ashcrexl]

if i can watch an entire killcam and all the player does is use the right analog stick, that is camping.

 

[TheRundownRabbit]

A legitimate strategy!!!
LOL, I had to say it.