Poll: What is your opinion of "Retake Mass Effect 3" and/or "Hold the Line"

[viranimus]

I view it in just as much esteem as I do the KONY 2012 campaign and everything it evolved into. Oddly there are some parallels between the two

 

[theSteamSupported]

I don't think they're either right or wrong, if I'm going to be really honest.

First of all, I haven't played any of the Mass Effect games. I've never understood the appeal of them, as I've never understood the appeal of role playing and blank slate protagonists. I've always preferred a distance between me and my avatar.

However, the controversy has blown so big, that I simply cannot ignore it. Something isn't really right with the 'Retake' movement, but I don't think it's entitlement. I think the problem might be much more underlying and universal than the question whether consumer demand or artistic integrity should be prioritized.

I have a theory, but I'd have to explain it with a wall of text in order to include all of its essential details. I'll save it for another time.

 

[Zen Toombs]

I won't lie when I say some people take the 'Retake ME' or 'Hold the Line' thing to far. Like when people realized the charity wasn't going toward the ending but instead helping children... some called for their money to be returned. I find that really disrespectful especially since the children need it far more.

Just so you know Caramel, it was only a few people who asked for their money back - Child's Play made a statement that with every charity drive some people ask for their money back for one reason or another, and that there was not a noticeable difference with the "Retake Mass Effect" donations. In that regard, the situation is somewhat like the guy who tried to sue Bioware over the ending - something only done by 1 person that was spread around as the norm.

I do agree that even though both of those events were uncommon, they were still reprehensible.

 

[Rude as HECK]

As much as I love Mass Effect, and hate the ending, I think the debate on all sides is pathetic. The actions of retake mass effect are far from proportionate to say the least.

And yet, on the other sides, we have people who rant and rave about- and yes, these are all things that come from the escapists's facebook feed- how we are "pushing games back", how we are "evil", and some **** decided that "I dont care, I am above playing such mediocre shit", before giving a long and ill considered opinion on the matter and acting as if it's authoritative.


I can't take anyone seriously in this whole matter. At all.

 

[Zen Toombs]

Just so you know Caramel, it was only a few people who asked for their money back - Child's Play made a statement that with every charity drive some people ask for their money back for one reason or another, and that there was not a noticeable difference with the "Retake Mass Effect" donations. In that regard, the situation is somewhat like the guy who tried to sue Bioware over the ending - something only done by 1 person that was spread around as the norm.

I do agree that even though both of those events were uncommon, they were still reprehensible.

True, but I don't know the exact number of people. As long as it's over a hundred or more (I am assuming, it could really just be a dozen for all we know.) I shall state people. However you are right and not more then half of the donating fans asked for their money back so I apologize for how I worded my statement. It's just sad to see.. that some fans really wanted the ending to be changed to where they didn't consider the children first.

Just to clarify, it was far less than half of the people who donated - almost every Child's Play event has a few people ask for their money back due to various reasons, and there where roughly the same number of people who were asking to get their money back for this event. I'll look for my source for clarification.... here we go [http://www.joystiq.com/2012/04/12/retake-mass-effect-3-donations-remained-largely-with-childs-p/]. Relevant quotes:

Essentially, there were a handful of people who requested their donation returned, which we did. The large majority of the funds were not returned and will be distributed to the hospitals as normal.

The biggest issue, she said, was parsing regular refunds and PayPal disputes from the "Retake Mass Effect" campaign. "PayPal disputes are not uncommon - people have stolen cards, donate in error or a host of other things, and we are always happy to refund money. It does make it impossible, though, to pinpoint which refunds may have been from Retake Mass Effect and which are related to regular disputes."

While she couldn't give a specific percentage breakdown, Dillion added, "The percentage of money refunded was very comparable to our normal amount of refunds, and the rest of the donations will go to providing kids with video games, books, and toys to make their hospital stays a little easier."

 

[ralfy]

Perhaps that is true but we wont know until it is released so really their is no point to complaining about it

The only way I know that can repair the ending with only cut scenes is to remove the appearance of the child and the scene involving the Normandy crash landing. But from what I know the DLC will not change the ending, only explain it. I cannot think of an explanation that can fix the errors.

 

[ralfy]

I see them going overboard because they're literally making a movement out of being upset with a crap ending. It's just a bloody story, for Chrits's sake, not someone's mother getting killed.

If I may satirize, the ME games were just a big Ego handjob, but ME3 pulled away before the users could cum. And now they've got blue Ego balls. My. Heart. Bleeds.

Look above. I don't care how one's ego was well-stroked, they're still overreacting.

Except that it's not really a "movement," just websites with people complaining.

The reference to "someone's mother getting killed" is for me going overboard. The same goes for the "big Ego handjob."

If you want to see what going overboard looks like, try the company's response.

 

[Durgiun]

I see them going overboard because they're literally making a movement out of being upset with a crap ending. It's just a bloody story, for Chrits's sake, not someone's mother getting killed.

If I may satirize, the ME games were just a big Ego handjob, but ME3 pulled away before the users could cum. And now they've got blue Ego balls. My. Heart. Bleeds.

Look above. I don't care how one's ego was well-stroked, they're still overreacting.

Except that it's not really a "movement," just websites with people complaining.

The reference to "someone's mother getting killed" is for me going overboard. The same goes for the "big Ego handjob."

If you want to see what going overboard looks like, try the company's response.

They gave themselves names like ''Retake Mass Effect'' and ''HOLD the Line'' and they have demands. It may not be a movement like PeTA, but it's a movement nonetheless.

Point well taken on the mother thing, but I stand by my ''Ego handjob'' description as completely accurate.

Hm. Interesting.

 

[Rawne1980]

I'll tell you exactly what I think about it......

 

[lunavixen]

i chose option 3, people have a right to be dissatisfied with something they have invested good money in, but the way some people are raging on Mass Effect 3, they would think the game had just killed and eaten their first born children. There is a time and a place for this sort of thing as well as a proper manner in which to do these things, some of these "ragers" have not met any of the appropriate categories yet.

 

[Nothing Tra La La]

I'm very torn about the whole "Retake" movement, mainly because I'm someone who felt strongly about the endings. On one hand, it's the first time I've seen a fanbase ban together in opposition of something... but it's gone on too long. BW has heard the complaint, announced the Extended Cut. I'm not saying this is a victory, just that we should at least give it a chance. To keep stonewalling BW about the endings at this point seems very ungrateful.
I'm very, VERY cautiously optimistic about the Extended Cut. If it's what fans wanted, then it'll be great. If it's not... we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. Until then, I think people need to settle down.