Poll: What is your stance on Guns?

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Sectan

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Should only need weapons for hunting and be able to use some of the more potentially lethal weapons at a shooting range. People crying that they can't own AK-47s don't get much sympathy from me. They're cool, but why would you need to own one? My dad got his Conceal and Carry and carries a pistol with him, doesn't even carry a bullet in the chamber, and he probably wouldn't use it if we got in a stickup or something. I think guns look cool and I like shooting my little bitty .22 at targets.
 

StrixMaxima

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Agayek said:
The Founders were big on individual liberty and personal responsibility. That's why we have the Bill of Rights in the first place.
Unless you were Black. Sorry for the jab, but the Founding Fathers were humans, and quite fallible, at times. Even though some of them condemned slavery, they did not act against it.

If they were wrong about this, couldn't they be wrong about gun owneership, even during their lifetime?
 

Yopaz

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Where is the option for rifles or shotguns... Ya know the kind of weapons you use for anything productive such as hunting? I believe in gun control, but I really find it worse to own a handgun than to own a shotgun or a rifle.

Pistol: uses shoot people
Shotgun: shoot birds (buckshots), shoot deer, moose, bear (slugs).
 

Agayek

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StrixMaxima said:
Unless you were Black. Sorry for the jab, but the Founding Fathers were humans, and quite fallible, at times. Even though some of them condemned slavery, they did not act against it.

If they were wrong about this, couldn't they be wrong about gun owneership, even during their lifetime?
Oh sure, they could certainly have been wrong, but my post wasn't about the correctness of the second amendment, merely the interpretation of same.

It's fully possible that the second amendment is inherently flawed. I disagree wholeheartedly, but the possibility exists.
 

A Free Man

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I don't know who voted no, but are you seriously saying you don't want the police to have guns? That to me sounds horendously stupid. Hell, as it is and retard on the street who can find himself an automatic weapon can already do some serious damage before police are able to stop him with the pathetic guns they are allowed in my country. I hate to imagine what would happen if they weren't allowed to carry any firearms at all...
 
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I vote for pistols only, with less than 10 round clips, NEVER legally concealable.

I think that it is just as ridiculous to ban guns from people altogether as it is to give them AKs

If 2 dudes with knives come into my house, I want to be able to defend myself and my property.

Also, I think people get scared of firearms WAY too easily. Yes, they are dangerous and can kill you fairly quickly, but no more so than a car or big knife.
 

Mcupobob

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I'm for gun education not gun banning and controlling. Yes, there should be background check can't have criminals and the insane getting a hold of them and all that.

Children should be taught the awesome power of them, once you've fired a firearm only then can you understand the devastation and power. If you don't, well we all know that what killed the cat.

Gun control and banning doesn't stop criminals form getting a hold of them and using them. In fact gun banning is only going to create another "war" a war on guns. Now gun collectors and enthusiast suddenly become criminals and actually criminals just keep going on being criminals.
 

TheKramers

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I think it's perfect just the way it is the United States. I need to arm up for the Zombie Apocolypse >.> But I also don't want gangsters with M16's.
 

TheKramers

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A Free Man said:
I don't know who voted no, but are you seriously saying you don't want the police to have guns? That to me sounds horendously stupid. Hell, as it is and retard on the street who can find himself an automatic weapon can already do some serious damage before police are able to stop him with the pathetic guns they are allowed in my country. I hate to imagine what would happen if they weren't allowed to carry any firearms at all...
Can you imagine if the government had to send specially armed forces every time there was a criminal with a gun because the police can't do anything without weapons? That would be rediculous.

Also, I am 1000% against gun control (yes, that extra '0' is there on purpose). I'm satisfied with the way it is now, I'm not a criminal and I never will be, so I should be allowed to have a weapon if I want. In fact, I want to collect weapons. Not for any purpose, just if I was to collect something, fuck coins, I'm collecting weapons.
 

AngloDoom

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I don't trust any old random person on the street to hold my place in line for me, I'm not going to trust them with the ability to choose who lives and dies.
 

trollnystan

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I'm all for gun control. I don't see any reason why a civilian should be able to own military grade weaponry. The only animals you hunt with an Uzi or an M-16 is humans so no, I don't think people should have them as the only reason they exist is to kill people.

If you need a gun to feel safe in your own house that's an indication of a much bigger problem, one that, IMHO, isn't best solved by you getting said gun.

I doubt the US - the Western country that as far as I know[footnote]Feel free to correct me on this. I simply don't go looking for countries with lax gun laws.[/footnote] has the laxest gun laws - will ever be able to handle stricter gun laws; the culture is so saturated with it that it'd nigh impossible. This makes me kinda sad.
 

b3nn3tt

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SL33TBL1ND said:
Police only, obviously. Why the hell would a civilian need a gun?
I'll go one further: Why would the police need guns?

OT: I don't see why anyone would need a gun to be honest. That being said, I think holding a licence for a gun for pest control or hunting is, to some degree, acceptable. I simply cannot fathom why people feel the need to carry guns around in the street. Frankly, I would hate to live somewhere where the possibility exists that everyone I see has the means to kill me.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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b3nn3tt said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
Police only, obviously. Why the hell would a civilian need a gun?
I'll go one further: Why would the police need guns?
That is actually fairly easy to justify. Police are routinely in more dangerous situations than you average person, and therefore quite often have a need to protect themselves.
 

b3nn3tt

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SL33TBL1ND said:
b3nn3tt said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
Police only, obviously. Why the hell would a civilian need a gun?
I'll go one further: Why would the police need guns?
That is actually fairly easy to justify. Police are routinely in more dangerous situations than you average person, and therefore quite often have a need to protect themselves.
Well, I'm not sure I'd agree with routinely, but I'll give you dangerous situations. However, I feel that non-lethal weapons would be better all round; less chance of innocent people being injured, less chance of killing an unarmed criminal, and the criminal can be safely arrested and prosecuted.

Even if we accept guns as being necessary for extreme situations, that's what specialist units are for. I don't think that the standard should be every police officer with a gun.
 

[The]Rock

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I'm an Australian so I can't really talk but it all comes down to this:
Give a smart person a gun, they'll hunt.
Give an idiot a gun, they'll murder.

Think I'll stick to finger-guns

/fingergun
[The]Rock
 

SL33TBL1ND

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b3nn3tt said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
b3nn3tt said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
Police only, obviously. Why the hell would a civilian need a gun?
I'll go one further: Why would the police need guns?
That is actually fairly easy to justify. Police are routinely in more dangerous situations than you average person, and therefore quite often have a need to protect themselves.
Well, I'm not sure I'd agree with routinely, but I'll give you dangerous situations. However, I feel that non-lethal weapons would be better all round; less chance of innocent people being injured, less chance of killing an unarmed criminal, and the criminal can be safely arrested and prosecuted.

Even if we accept guns as being necessary for extreme situations, that's what specialist units are for. I don't think that the standard should be every police officer with a gun.
I'm down with that. As long as police are able to do their job effectively and with minimal danger to themselves.
 

agentorange98

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Hey I need a way to make sure that if the king of england decides come over and get up in my grill I can do something about it
 

b3nn3tt

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progunliberty said:
b3nn3tt said:
I'm all for gun control. I don't see any reason why a civilian should be able to own military grade weaponry. The only animals you hunt with an Uzi or an M-16 is humans so no, I don't think people should have them as the only reason they exist is to kill people.

If you need a gun to feel safe in your own house that's an indication of a much bigger problem, one that, IMHO, isn't best solved by you getting said gun.

I doubt the US - the Western country that as far as I know[footnote]Feel free to correct me on this. I simply don't go looking for countries with lax gun laws.[/footnote] has the laxest gun laws - will ever be able to handle stricter gun laws; the culture is so saturated with it that it'd nigh impossible. This makes me kinda sad.
Wahhh its soo sad those poor Americans have the right to defend themselves. When people own guns it makes it so much harder for genocidal maniacs like me to exterminate them T_T :,(
Yeh, you've actually quoted the wrong person there, I didn't say that.

Further to that, I think you've really missed the point of what the person you meant to quote was saying, at no point did they indicate that they want guns banned so that they can go round shooting people.

EDIT: Looking at your other posts, you're actually not in this for the debate anyway. So I shall report you for some of your previous, unecessarily horrific posts, and move on.