actually it is - well - religion no as there is no formal text or doctrine (unless you count The Origin of the Species - buhdumtish)Maheemo said:Atheism ins't a religion
Actually the word Agnostic comes from the Greek root agnostos which means the unknown or unknowable, the litteral translation is to NOT know, so an agnostic by linguistical definition does not know in this case does not know if there is a God or not.Curiosity said:There's been a lot of debate on this thread about the definitions of atheism and agnosticism. This might not be the correct technical definition, but as some-one who thinks of themselves as agnostic, I propose the following.steeltrain said:I have no religious belief whatsoever. If there is a creator I don't think we could comprehend it.
An Agnostic is one who believes that anything is possible, but sees no value in committing to any one option when none are provable (Including there being no god at all). An agnostic can never simultaneously be atheist or religious because the defining quality of agnosticism is non-comittedness, and all other positions require an act of committal.
Roman Catholicism is a denomination of christianity. I'm pretty sure that's not just my opinion either, thats a fact, or as close to fact as things can be in matters of faith. Are your RC family really offended at being called christian? cos if you wanted to you could probably shut them down with a researched definition.aprilmarie said:just like roman catholics(my apologies if i offend anyone with this its actually a stab at my own family)get offended sometimes when you say they are of the christian faith and christians sometimes get offended when you compare them to other religions of the christian faith such as judaism. i had the most lovely childhood. hence no christianity!
Buddhism? Hinduism?Maheemo said:Atheism is a ism and not a religion, case closed.Lios said:Actually in technicality it is, and atheists hate it when you call it a religion, even though in the back of their heads they know that they're following one.Maheemo said:Atheism ins't a religion
Agnosticism ftw mates. Unbiased is the best way to go.
Lios said:Actually in technicality it is, and atheists hate it when you call it a religion, even though in the back of their heads they know that they're following one.Maheemo said:Atheism ins't a religion
Atheism is a religion only if you call "not collecting stamps" a hobby.P1p3s said:actually it is - well - religion no as there is no formal text or doctrine (unless you count The Origin of the Species - buhdumtish)Maheemo said:Atheism ins't a religion
But it is a faith based position given that no one could prove the lack of exisitence of a god.
GroovyP1p3s said:Actually the word Agnostic comes from the Greek root agnostos which means the unknown or unknowable, the litteral translation is to NOT know, so an agnostic by linguistical definition does not know in this case does not know if there is a God or not.Curiosity said:There's been a lot of debate on this thread about the definitions of atheism and agnosticism. This might not be the correct technical definition, but as some-one who thinks of themselves as agnostic, I propose the following.steeltrain said:I have no religious belief whatsoever. If there is a creator I don't think we could comprehend it.
An Agnostic is one who believes that anything is possible, but sees no value in committing to any one option when none are provable (Including there being no god at all). An agnostic can never simultaneously be atheist or religious because the defining quality of agnosticism is non-comittedness, and all other positions require an act of committal.
So the philosophical position (being an agnostic)is that this big T truth about whether or not a supreme being exisits is unknowable - that wasn't to contradict you, your explination was good)
No. It's the denial of existence of a higher being, and the refusal to accept a religion as a way of life. It is not "faith". Atheists don't believe there is no god, because they don't believe period. Until it exists, it does not exist. The absence of a belief is NOT the belief of an absence.P1p3s said:actually it is - well - religion no as there is no formal text or doctrine (unless you count The Origin of the Species - buhdumtish)
But it is a faith based position given that no one could prove the lack of exisitence of a god.
By which religeon you do mean that we actually propely follow the religion ? because i know alot of people and friends who claim that they are the religion but they never follow it e.g. (please don't be offended i'm not saying that i'm right i'm simply saying something i have observed)Shapsters said:I don't want flaming, or religion based arguments. I just curious what religion(or lack thereof) the escapist community is. I will add more based on peoples suggestions.
Oh dear - I think the 'refusal to discuss' lies with you. While I appreciate your comment, and your right to your opinion I can't agree with your assessment.Naish said:No. It's the denial of existence of a higher being, and the refusal to accept a religion as a way of life. It is not "faith". Atheists don't believe there is no god, because they don't believe period. Until it exists, it does not exist. The absence of a belief is NOT the belief of an absence.P1p3s said:actually it is - well - religion no as there is no formal text or doctrine (unless you count The Origin of the Species - buh dum tish)
But it is a faith based position given that no one could prove the lack of exisitence of a god.
Threads like this should not be allowed, because there are too religious(or non-religious) people refuse to discuss the matter with an open mind, and will always downplaying anyone who disagrees with them.
That's hilarious. And so true. Good analogy Kirby.AC10 said:Atheism is a religion like off is a channel on your TV.Maheemo said:Atheism ins't a religion