Poll: What Religion Are You?

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1337mokro

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Your probably better of not being a Scientologist, they don't believe in hell. More of something along the ways of being cryogenically frozen and dropped into volcanoes or something.
 

P1p3s

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Maheemo said:
Atheism ins't a religion
actually it is - well - religion no as there is no formal text or doctrine (unless you count The Origin of the Species - buhdumtish)
But it is a faith based position given that no one could prove the lack of exisitence of a god.
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I have no religious belief whatsoever. If there is a creator I don't think we could comprehend it.
There's been a lot of debate on this thread about the definitions of atheism and agnosticism. This might not be the correct technical definition, but as some-one who thinks of themselves as agnostic, I propose the following.


An Agnostic is one who believes that anything is possible, but sees no value in committing to any one option when none are provable (Including there being no god at all). An agnostic can never simultaneously be atheist or religious because the defining quality of agnosticism is non-comittedness, and all other positions require an act of committal.
Actually the word Agnostic comes from the Greek root agnostos which means the unknown or unknowable, the litteral translation is to NOT know, so an agnostic by linguistical definition does not know in this case does not know if there is a God or not.

So the philosophical position (being an agnostic)is that this big T truth about whether or not a supreme being exisits is unknowable - that wasn't to contradict you, your explination was good :eek:)
 

Curiosity's Cat

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aprilmarie said:
just like roman catholics(my apologies if i offend anyone with this its actually a stab at my own family)get offended sometimes when you say they are of the christian faith and christians sometimes get offended when you compare them to other religions of the christian faith such as judaism. i had the most lovely childhood. hence no christianity!
Roman Catholicism is a denomination of christianity. I'm pretty sure that's not just my opinion either, thats a fact, or as close to fact as things can be in matters of faith. Are your RC family really offended at being called christian? cos if you wanted to you could probably shut them down with a researched definition.

Also Judaism is most definately not of the christian faith. The central tenet of christianity is in the name: "Christ". by definition to be a christian you HAVE to believe that christ was the son of god. Judaism doesn't hold with that. Christianity certainly was born from judaism, but they aren't the same thing.

Although, I did once see people handing out flyers for "Jews for Jesus". I'd be interested to know their belief structure, and whether they ever got popular.
 

Daveman

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Maheemo said:
Lios said:
Maheemo said:
Atheism ins't a religion
Actually in technicality it is, and atheists hate it when you call it a religion, even though in the back of their heads they know that they're following one.


Agnosticism ftw mates. Unbiased is the best way to go.
Atheism is a ism and not a religion, case closed.
Buddhism? Hinduism?
 

thom_cat_

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I'm atheist-agnostic because I defiantly think god does not exist for obvious reasons but know it can't be proven wrong.
 

traceur_

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I'm an atheist, I just don't think a god can logically exist, philosophically and spiritually yes but logically no, and I'm a man of logic, I believe in evolution and all that but I don't think about it much, whether god exists or not makes no difference to me.
 

li-ion

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Me = agnostic. I believe in evidence, not in holy books.
Or in the words of Andre Gide:
"Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it."
Lios said:
Maheemo said:
Atheism ins't a religion
Actually in technicality it is, and atheists hate it when you call it a religion, even though in the back of their heads they know that they're following one.
P1p3s said:
Maheemo said:
Atheism ins't a religion
actually it is - well - religion no as there is no formal text or doctrine (unless you count The Origin of the Species - buhdumtish)
But it is a faith based position given that no one could prove the lack of exisitence of a god.
Atheism is a religion only if you call "not collecting stamps" a hobby.
 

Curiosity's Cat

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P1p3s said:
Curiosity said:
steeltrain said:
I have no religious belief whatsoever. If there is a creator I don't think we could comprehend it.
There's been a lot of debate on this thread about the definitions of atheism and agnosticism. This might not be the correct technical definition, but as some-one who thinks of themselves as agnostic, I propose the following.


An Agnostic is one who believes that anything is possible, but sees no value in committing to any one option when none are provable (Including there being no god at all). An agnostic can never simultaneously be atheist or religious because the defining quality of agnosticism is non-comittedness, and all other positions require an act of committal.
Actually the word Agnostic comes from the Greek root agnostos which means the unknown or unknowable, the litteral translation is to NOT know, so an agnostic by linguistical definition does not know in this case does not know if there is a God or not.

So the philosophical position (being an agnostic)is that this big T truth about whether or not a supreme being exisits is unknowable - that wasn't to contradict you, your explination was good :eek:)
Groovy :) I find that pretty interesting actually. Thanks!
 

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P1p3s said:
actually it is - well - religion no as there is no formal text or doctrine (unless you count The Origin of the Species - buhdumtish)
But it is a faith based position given that no one could prove the lack of exisitence of a god.
No. It's the denial of existence of a higher being, and the refusal to accept a religion as a way of life. It is not "faith". Atheists don't believe there is no god, because they don't believe period. Until it exists, it does not exist. The absence of a belief is NOT the belief of an absence.

Threads like this should not be allowed, because there are too religious(or non-religious) people refuse to discuss the matter with an open mind, and will always downplaying anyone who disagrees with them.
 

Zersy

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Shapsters said:
I don't want flaming, or religion based arguments. I just curious what religion(or lack thereof) the escapist community is. I will add more based on peoples suggestions.
By which religeon you do mean that we actually propely follow the religion ? because i know alot of people and friends who claim that they are the religion but they never follow it e.g. (please don't be offended i'm not saying that i'm right i'm simply saying something i have observed)

almost all my friends say they are Christian but they don't do anything that requires someone to be a rightous Christian.

but thats just what i have seen so it doens't represent every Christian.

As for me I'm a Muslim
 

markc

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Why do we not have fairies or gnomes on the list???????? About as believable as the fairytale that is religion :p
 

Falconn09

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I find it stupid for lack of a better word the so called atheist would indulge in attributes associated with God = Love.

Where in evolution does anyone find in instinct, forms of Love like caring of hurt members, grief from the death of members, mercy for member's transgressions, forgiveness for members transgression, healing for members ..... where in nature are these truly advocated and practised other then in humans, in fish maybe, maybe in ants, perhaps in leeches, maybe aomebas have a singles bar, could bacterias be expressing their love be infecting you ??

Simply, Love and it's many forms has no place in nature's instinct nor ein volution, as Love is constant and can not evolved.

And these froms of Love Originated in the belief from religion or cults or from worshiping one god or another, and yet atheist indulge themselves in these uninstinctual principles of emotions.

It is like a ignorant child saying they like CANDY but the child does not believe rotten teeth come with eating candy, nor belief in the responsiblility of having to brush thier teeth every day and night, nor belief in visits to dentist nor believe there exist a candy maker.

However they sure love eating the CANDY to no end, proclaiming CANDY just morphed it self into exist out of evolution, chaos or chance. duh.... ya rite
 

P1p3s

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Naish said:
P1p3s said:
actually it is - well - religion no as there is no formal text or doctrine (unless you count The Origin of the Species - buh dum tish)
But it is a faith based position given that no one could prove the lack of exisitence of a god.
No. It's the denial of existence of a higher being, and the refusal to accept a religion as a way of life. It is not "faith". Atheists don't believe there is no god, because they don't believe period. Until it exists, it does not exist. The absence of a belief is NOT the belief of an absence.

Threads like this should not be allowed, because there are too religious(or non-religious) people refuse to discuss the matter with an open mind, and will always downplaying anyone who disagrees with them.
Oh dear - I think the 'refusal to discuss' lies with you. While I appreciate your comment, and your right to your opinion I can't agree with your assessment.

Simply changing the language used to describe the athiestic position doesn't change the position. I hate to say it but denial means a refusal to believe or an assertion that something said/believed is false (but then even an assertion is only a claim or contention which is linguistically equivilent to a belief, it is after all only a word it doesn't carry spiritual connotations unless you put them there!), so it's still a position of belief whether you like that or not.

I like this 'until it exists, it does not exist' but to quote Dawkins "We cannot prove that there is no God" (granted he also states that the existance of God is very improbable) now if this giant of science knows that we cannot categorically prove the inexistence of something then we can safely say it doesn't fall into your supositional statement.

We are safer stating "it might exist and therefor we chose to believe in it or not" it's still a choice and it is still something you THINK, not something anyone of us know.
 

Falconn09

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As far as relligion goes if people were to take one step back and realize all religions carry the same basic hope and faith in principle, they could still not ever take into consideration that all religions has a foundaMENTAL point of origin from man.

To understand the uncertainties in life, this is where cults and religions enter to fill in these gaps, voids, abyss of ignorance of the unseens, the unknowns.

It is never a wonder that death being a common unknown, is also the most common accepted practise in dealing with other rival and nonrival religions and cults.


Ignoramous A: "My religion is better then yours"

Ignoramous B: "No it is not, mine is"

Ignoramous A: "oh yeah, then i kill YOU!!! "

All a part of the surival of the less ignorance
 

Falconn09

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even satan comes under the authority of cause and effect , nothing satan can do is from himself.

satan needs authority to accomplish anything, even evil is not created by satan .... duh