Poll: what sex are you?
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I seem to forget a good deal of things lately...but I still remember that I'm male.
Don't we have the girl gamers discussion every month or so here? Seems like it anyway..well whatever. The biggest wealth of experience I've had with them was with my sister when we were younger. Any game that we could play together (Super Mario Brothers 3, anyone?) we had to play cooperatively. If I even started to get too competitive or aggressive, she shortly stopped playing. She just wasn't interested in being hyper-aggressive for a video game. She also liked calling on my help for sections she was having a hard time with in single player games, as well. Sometimes, she just flat out asked me to get through a section that was giving her trouble. Ironic, since those were pretty much the only times we ever didn't openly hate each other...
Perhaps girls just don't get hyper-competitive about video games like guys do. In several tournaments I've seen in my college days, the number of girls that entered was very miniscule. And since many games come off that way nowadays (the multitude of kill-each-other FPS's comes to mind), it may be resulting in a general lack of interest from the female front. I know this isn't not the tried-and-true law of game players or girls, but it seems to be the case in my experience.
@ mshcherbatskaya: Ha ha, I'd say having your own harem means your life isn't fail...at least completely...I think I just dug myself into a hole.
Alternatively, I could have argued how my life was also full of fail...but then we'd be playing the one-up game on the worse scenario. And no one wins at those.
Don't we have the girl gamers discussion every month or so here? Seems like it anyway..well whatever. The biggest wealth of experience I've had with them was with my sister when we were younger. Any game that we could play together (Super Mario Brothers 3, anyone?) we had to play cooperatively. If I even started to get too competitive or aggressive, she shortly stopped playing. She just wasn't interested in being hyper-aggressive for a video game. She also liked calling on my help for sections she was having a hard time with in single player games, as well. Sometimes, she just flat out asked me to get through a section that was giving her trouble. Ironic, since those were pretty much the only times we ever didn't openly hate each other...
Perhaps girls just don't get hyper-competitive about video games like guys do. In several tournaments I've seen in my college days, the number of girls that entered was very miniscule. And since many games come off that way nowadays (the multitude of kill-each-other FPS's comes to mind), it may be resulting in a general lack of interest from the female front. I know this isn't not the tried-and-true law of game players or girls, but it seems to be the case in my experience.
@ mshcherbatskaya: Ha ha, I'd say having your own harem means your life isn't fail...at least completely...I think I just dug myself into a hole.
Alternatively, I could have argued how my life was also full of fail...but then we'd be playing the one-up game on the worse scenario. And no one wins at those.
Although it's generally dangerous to make generalizations (ha!) this is my experience as well. I think it's why many women have no patience with game flaws--they don't have the competitive drive to "beat" the game. This is probably true of large numbers of non-gamer guys as well.Necrohydra said:
My online life has all the success that my real life does not. Now that my real life is taking an upswing, it will be interesting to see if the volume of fail is actually reduced or just displaced, in wich case i mite start typeing like this lol.
Heheh, I don't have TV, so no MTV. That opinion is from personal experience and what I see at clubs and bars. You would be surprised at what respect for oneself or others has degraded to when you compare it to a moral base.redstar alpha said:
Yeah, I didn't mean to generalize; just stating my own opinion and findings on the matter. I found it rather odd that while my sister wasn't so competitive at games, she was pretty competitive with sports and other outdoor activities. I would say that people pick and choose the hobbies they wish to be serious about; everything else goes on the backburner. Given that, if a person doesn't really get hooked in by gaming during their first play experience, it's unlikely they will ever become a serious gamer.mshcherbatskaya said:
So, you're proposing that failure obeys the same laws as energy - it's neither created nor destroyed, it simply changes form? Interesting...
And thanks for making my eyes bleed; as if staring at black and blue all day didn't do that for me.
No, just like with games that appeal to guys, there's no one magical genre or game type that appeals to females. We all have different tastes.jim_doki said:
Personally, my thoughts on the subject are usually as follows: Make good games. Make fun games. You will find your audience. Back in the 80's for example, nobody cared about demographics, and lots of games had universal appeal.
I picked up gaming from my mother. Her younger sisters (my aunts) also played. I knew other girls who played. Nobody made a big deal out of it. They were just making games, not focusing on girl games and boy games, just games. And that's how it should be.
mshcherbatskaya - you seem familiar, are you on a few LJ gaming comms?
I'm a 23-year old ladything, and it creeps me out too. The Internet is one big boiling pot of social failure, and I like to get to know people a little better before they can see what I look like. And if I ask you for a picture first and you send me your penis, you're never hearing from me again, and probably hearing quite soon from local law enforcement.roo18 said:
Anyway, most of the trouble with typecasting girl gamers is putting the girl before the gamer. I don't figure my crippling RPG addiction as a result of my sex so much as my shiny-eyed love of immersion storytelling, although I do get a bit jumpy when the atmosphere gets too intense (fuck you silent hill!). I don't play FPS', though that's due more to getting motion-sick at the first-person perspective in general. Hell, I only got through Morrowind in third person, and even then I had to go lay down every now and then to stop the world from dancing.
I do have an LJ, but I'm not currently involved in any gaming comms. This screen name is relatively new for me. I wrote a bit of fanfiction recently and posted it to an archive, but that's pretty much it, I think.Anarien said:
Hahahaha! I just realized yesterday that I bought my current TV in 1992, which means I own a TV that is older than a great many of the people on this board.XRodent said:
Im a very competitive gamer! I dont give up even when i come to those stupidly hard to beat bosses, or those crazy nonsensical puzzles, maybe Im a little too determined to beat things on my own...Im generally very competitive in life too... I like being the best...
208 to 27 that is kind of scary but not surprising.
on a note about the spread of woman gamers on difrente plarforms i think that consoles do have a larger percentage of female players than the p.c and i think that is because of mostly in the online world on computers (in say counter strike) all most every time i have been on team speak with a woman all the other men (although i use that as lossly as possible) have been utter wanks to her but on xbox live when i have been in a party with a woman (on say COD4) they have alwaysbeen respected and if they havent then we just rip the person that is trash talking.
p.s as i write this there is a ad for a "zwinky" in the bottem right of y screen that has a cartoon woman wearing very little it seems a tad strange that they would allow that kind of thing on a good respectable website like the escapist
on a note about the spread of woman gamers on difrente plarforms i think that consoles do have a larger percentage of female players than the p.c and i think that is because of mostly in the online world on computers (in say counter strike) all most every time i have been on team speak with a woman all the other men (although i use that as lossly as possible) have been utter wanks to her but on xbox live when i have been in a party with a woman (on say COD4) they have alwaysbeen respected and if they havent then we just rip the person that is trash talking.
p.s as i write this there is a ad for a "zwinky" in the bottem right of y screen that has a cartoon woman wearing very little it seems a tad strange that they would allow that kind of thing on a good respectable website like the escapist
a thought occours, what is the oppisete of a sousage fest. i mean what would you call a room full of woman?
Ahh, but you're a gamer, are you not (Let's not get too deep into this question, that's a different thread)? So, you're not disproving my original theory that gaming requires a certain level of competitiveness to really get into.Smiles said:
And the view can get lonely from the top, can't it?
EDIT: A regular poster exists with more posts than PurpleRain? I didn't see any cats and dogs living together this morning...
Competitive drive isn't the only thing needed - the gamer has to be having fun while doing it to keep doing it, of course. But yes, I think they need a good bit competitive drive or they'll eventually give up on the game they're playing..which could lead to the person in question giving up on a certain gaming genre, or the whole hobby of gaming in general.Saskwach said:
Let's face it, we've all come across sections in games that you can't just merrily skip through. Some sections of games (or some entire games, for that matter) are more difficult than the rest. They challenge us. If the person playing the game has a competitive drive, he/she will think *I'm going to get past this part!*, and put in the time to do it. If not, they'll likely give up on it, citing it as "too hard", or that "it's a waste of time", or that "I have other things to do." I'd be interested in hearing the responses of people who tried games and gave up, because I have a feeling a lot of them would fall in this line.
I'm really tempted to explore this further..but I'm already going off-topic.