Poll: What's next for Fallout?

[Merkavar]

i think it should stay in america. but i think maybe set it closer to the war. like 5 years after the war. so people are still coming to terms with the end of civilisation. or maybe during the war, so you see the bombs drop.

Maybe you play a character that is a major part of starting the settlements in earlier fallout games. like you play as a guy that helps people survive and settle down in rivit city or megaton.

Like maybe a sort of fallout/sim city sort of thing. where you can invest in the town or get supplies for it. like get metal sheets etc to create the walls around megaton to protect people from raiders etc

you know what i mean.

 

[Valagetti]

Vegas was a great location to pick from obsidian. But Paris would be more interesting.

 

[replingham153]

So I've been Playing Fallout:New Vegas..... and loving it! [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.265138-So-New-Vegas-just-BURNd-me#10081347] If you're on the fence cause you thought FO3 was too gray and bland (like i was), let me help you out: compared to The Mojave Wasteland, the Capital Wasteland was a muddy gray wallpaper someone had pasted 3 feet from your face. It is MUCH better.

But, I digress. I wanted to talk about a very natural thought process i experienced whilst playing, namely: Where does Fallout go from here? These are a few of the options, as i see them, discussed in detail, although i would love to hear any ideas, that my measly, mortal braincase couldn't envision:

1)Fallout in another American Region: I fully understand that Fallout is very much an American thing. One of it's single biggest themes and points of discussion, is the "Cold-War American paranoia culture". And it's been told well in almost ALL fallout games, as far as i know (though I've only played the 2 most recent; I'm young okay!). However......is it getting old? Not the theme, that's fine. Just the setting. I mean where could you have it: New York could work(Is that what the Commonwealth is, btw?), but it would be a little cliched by now(A penny for every apocalyptic Times Square...). Maybe Detroit or something?

2)Fallout in Europe: I'm not fully up in the Fallout Lore, so i don't actually know if the Chinese bombed Europe; and if they did, to what extent. And would a non-post-apocalyptic Fallout work at all? It'd certainly be a departure. Anyway, where in Europe would you like to play? I'm thinking Great Britain, but a scaled down version of All/most of it, would be pretty damn awesome, wouldn't it? If that can't be done in one game, why not have 2-3 episodic chapters in different parts of Europe all under the guise of Fallout 4? Akin to Half-life 2, although in retrospect, that isn't a very good archtype at all....

3)Fallout in.... China: Personally, I would've preferred a bombed out Siberian(Russia) Wasteland to China, but I don't know how pivotal the USSR was in FO lore. But yeah.....China? Fallout always let you see from different Perspectives didn't it? Every faction in New Vegas has their flaws and pluses for example. Why not portray how American actions affect those distant neighbors? Would it work? It would, again, be a bold step and a big break from the series.

4)Fallout.....before/during the War [sub](covers face)[/sub]: Yes, i know it's called FALLOUT for a very specific reason. But why not? Note: I'm not calling for a linear FPS version of Fallout akin to Call of Duty. I think we can unanimously agree that that would suck. But maybe play as a Globe-trotting Mercenary (-team Leader) with no borders, who can take missions from US, China, Russia, RobCo, Other Corporations (which is also a big sub-theme of Fallout as far as i can see) .etc. in the climactic times leading up to the Nuclear Apocalypse?

5)Other: Space? Antarctica? Far Future?

So what would you pick? Note, this isn't about what "What you think Bethesda WILL make"; It's about what you guys "WANT to see".

I did not bother to read this.
I think Fallout needs to understand. TIME IS UP! No more! Please, no more! Hopefully Sky-rim will be not as bug infested as a southern state's average kitchen.

 

[Watchmacallit]

AUSTRALIA.

Let me explain.
1. We have some of the most deadly animals on the planet.
Giant rat meet giant koala.
Giant Mole meet giant Wombat.
Giant Death Claw meet Giant freaking Funnel web spider.

2. Wide range of scenery.

3. The toughest people live in Aus. Who do ya think is gonna survive a nuclear fallout? xD

4. Who doesn't want a giant mutated kangaroo as a pet? I mean, ride in its pouch, it can do super kicks. Or a dingo. The ranga of dogs.

 

[Watchmacallit]

i think it should stay in america. but i think maybe set it closer to the war. like 5 years after the war. so people are still coming to terms with the end of civilisation. or maybe during the war, so you see the bombs drop.

Maybe you play a character that is a major part of starting the settlements in earlier fallout games. like you play as a guy that helps people survive and settle down in rivit city or megaton.

Like maybe a sort of fallout/sim city sort of thing. where you can invest in the town or get supplies for it. like get metal sheets etc to create the walls around megaton to protect people from raiders etc

you know what i mean.

Games try the build the city thing, never as fun as it sounds. I mean Assassins Creed 2 and Brotherhood did it. Really wasn't fun. 5 years after the war would mean you are stuck in one vault unless you play as a ghoul or super mutant. Ghoul would be interesting.

 

[5t3v0]

Do understand that for it to be a perfectly acceptable sequel it must fall in the realms of the Fallout Lore or expect fanboys to try and mail bomb the office of the developers of said "Fallout" game.

And I for one like the Idea of the continuing future of the fallout games. Unless its a spinoff, im not really for a Prequel game, unless its the FPS version of the resource wars that one of the developers commented that he would like to do. I like seeing the effects of the vault dweller (Im talking the first Fallout here, not the Lone wanderer from Fallout 3 btw)

 

[Merkavar]

i think....

Games try the build the city thing, never as fun as it sounds. I mean Assassins Creed 2 and Brotherhood did it. Really wasn't fun. 5 years after the war would mean you are stuck in one vault unless you play as a ghoul or super mutant. Ghoul would be interesting.

yeah but maybe fallout could make the city building aspect fun.

but im not sure about the fallout story but i thought some people survive the war with out being in a vault. also werent there some vaults that would have opened after like 30 days as part of the expirements

but maybe playing a ghoul might be good. maybe make it so there is like 2 caracters to pick from. both with a seperate start of the game but similar endings. maybe making it so all the faction are more agressive to the ghoul. like if normally you start of as neutral to everyone as a ghoul you start out as hated to more people until you do some quests to get rep up.

 

[Watchmacallit]

i think....

Games try the build the city thing, never as fun as it sounds. I mean Assassins Creed 2 and Brotherhood did it. Really wasn't fun. 5 years after the war would mean you are stuck in one vault unless you play as a ghoul or super mutant. Ghoul would be interesting.

yeah but maybe fallout could make the city building aspect fun.

but im not sure about the fallout story but i thought some people survive the war with out being in a vault. also werent there some vaults that would have opened after like 30 days as part of the expirements

but maybe playing a ghoul might be good. maybe make it so there is like 2 caracters to pick from. both with a seperate start of the game but similar endings. maybe making it so all the faction are more agressive to the ghoul. like if normally you start of as neutral to everyone as a ghoul you start out as hated to more people until you do some quests to get rep up.

I don't know much about the Fallout history but I thought those that were let out early ended up as Ghouls? Or were the ones that turned into weird mutant creatures.

I've only played Fallout 3 and Vegas. A little of Fallout 2 actually (forgive me, when the originals came out I was probably 10 and playing Arcanum).

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

I was a bit disappointed Australia wasn't on your poll, though. Mad Max. Nuff said.

AUSTRALIA.

Oh sorry about that. I guess i didn't put it in separately cause i have no idea how adveresly Australia was affected by the apocalypse in Lore. Can any of you tell me if they ever mentioned it? I mean, I know for a fact that Australia (in our world at-least) has one of the largest deposits of (feasible-to-mine) Uranium on the planet (Canada has a lot too, if i remember correctly) so it may have been pivotal in the Resource War?

I would edit in an Australian option to the poll now, but i don't see this thread surviving for much longer so...

 

[Merkavar]

i think....

I don't know much about the Fallout history but I thought those that were let out early ended up as Ghouls? Or were the ones that turned into weird mutant creatures.

I've only played Fallout 3 and Vegas. A little of Fallout 2 actually (forgive me, when the originals came out I was probably 10 and playing Arcanum).

ok so how about its early years after the war and your a mutant but not a super mutant. like human/mutant. like may increase limb regen and slightly bigger but not a dumb sounding as a super mutant. like the mutation is only physical.

Do you think fallout would benefit from having an oblivion sytle character choice thing. where there are multiple races to play. like a few human ''races'' like starting off in the brotherhood of steel or other factions, or as a vualt dweller or as a ghoul. might add to the replayability of the game.

 

[Watchmacallit]

i think....

I don't know much about the Fallout history but I thought those that were let out early ended up as Ghouls? Or were the ones that turned into weird mutant creatures.

I've only played Fallout 3 and Vegas. A little of Fallout 2 actually (forgive me, when the originals came out I was probably 10 and playing Arcanum).

ok so how about its early years after the war and your a mutant but not a super mutant. like human/mutant. like may increase limb regen and slightly bigger but not a dumb sounding as a super mutant. like the mutation is only physical.

Do you think fallout would benefit from having an oblivion sytle character choice thing. where there are multiple races to play. like a few human ''races'' like starting off in the brotherhood of steel or other factions, or as a vualt dweller or as a ghoul. might add to the replayability of the game.

I like the idea of playing other races but this isn't like Morrowind. In Morrowind all the races can start as a prisoner on a ship but in Fallout only a human can start in a vault with other humans and a ghoul has to start on the outside.

It is a lot of work and the story will have to incorporate any race as the main character. You can't really have a Super Mutant walk in and help out the Brother Hood, they'd gun you down on site. Its tough to do but a nice idea all the same. Would add a lot of variety.

 

[SimuLord]

New York and the Commonwealth seem like the most popular contenders in this thread. I did see that coming, but didn't play that up too much because......well, frankly, we've had so many games in New York :S . I mean it's true that we've never seen it actually blown to smithereens (as far as i know) just in the process of it. But i could still plot a course from Central Park to Brooklyn irl, using just my knowledge from games like Prototype, Spiderman or GTAIV.

But i suppose a Commonwealth Fallout could be pretty damn sweet. Although, hey Simulord, when you say "you go to New York" Do you mean, in a separate wasteland? Because Geographically Boston and NY wouldn't fit in the same Box map without a triangular half of it being ocean. And that wouldn't exactly be good map design. Although i guess it could be 2-3 separate, but interconnected wastelands around the New England area?

I meant something like Tobar's ferry in Point Lookout or the train tunnel in The Pitt. The idea of separate but interconnected wastelands is a fascinating one in its own right, but would they be able to pull it off in a single retail release? That really does scream "DLC" in terms of how it's to be constructed.

(and for what it's worth, Wakefield is my hometown---specifically the Greenwood neighborhood. In case anyone wonders how I got at that in my original post.)

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

I meant something like Tobar's ferry in Point Lookout or the train tunnel in The Pitt. The idea of separate but interconnected wastelands is a fascinating one in its own right, but would they be able to pull it off in a single retail release? That really does scream "DLC" in terms of how it's to be constructed.

I never played those two. When i got FO3, only the anchorage and the "ending-extension" DLC were out, so i played those, and by then was too sick of "muddy brown and gray poisoning" to pick up a Fallout game till i conceded recently for New Vegas (and I'm glad i did [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.265138-So-New-Vegas-just-BURNd-me])

I think they can do it, but the individual areas would be smaller. Like a big "Commonwealth Region" that's maybe as big as all of the Mojave south of Vegas and west of the River? That's pretty big but not too big? They could fit in Boston city and the Institute and what not (is the Institute really the remnants of MIT?).
And then a slightly smaller "Ruins of New York" area stretching from Liberty Island to the south to Albany in the north?

Do you think fallout would benefit from having an oblivion sytle character choice thing. where there are multiple races to play. like a few human ''races'' like starting off in the brotherhood of steel or other factions, or as a vualt dweller or as a ghoul. might add to the replayability of the game.

The answer to that question imo is "yes" though you make it sound like "replayability" is a problem in any Bethesda game. (ok maybe FO3 was a little lacking in that dept, but New Vegas isn't. All the factions are more or less cool, and it's agonizing choosing just one to side with.)

 

[Buizel91]

Fallout Disney Land...Mickey Mouse dressed raiders!

Or London...that could be cool.

 

[Buizel91]

AUSTRALIA.

Let me explain.
1. We have some of the most deadly animals on the planet.
Giant rat meet giant koala.
Giant Mole meet giant Wombat.
Giant Death Claw meet Giant freaking Funnel web spider.

2. Wide range of scenery.

3. The toughest people live in Aus. Who do ya think is gonna survive a nuclear fallout? xD

4. Who doesn't want a giant mutated kangaroo as a pet? I mean, ride in its pouch, it can do super kicks. Or a dingo. The ranga of dogs.

Or this...how i would love to wrestle a giant, mutated Crocodile...

Or Bird eating spider...

 

[wizard_joe88]

It probably should be in America(again). As cool as some of the ideas seem(Europe, Asia, etc.) It just wouldn't seem like fallout without the fifties meets the future artistic style, plus, I hate to sound a little bit like I'm Biased towards America, but it's a large country, we've got lots a places to explore, the NCR may be a major part of the story, and so are the BoS and the enclave, but there's a major part of america left untouched by the games, you could do one taking place in NY state, the southern America(like someone else said, the everglades would be interesting, along with say, the Appalachian mountains) the Legion territory, and it could be like the NCR taking the fight directly to the legion(depending on the ending of NV, it could be to finish off the biggest threat to their power, or a desperate last attempt at saving their territory) and there are probably a million other ideas for this that I can't think of because I'm in the middle of English class(lol)

 

[Bobbovski]

"A pre-Fallout "Resource Wars" game set in collapsing Europe (during the U.K.'s invasions of the Middle East) is one of the games that J.E. Sawyer would like to make if he could do any game, regardless of money and developing time"

Well it seems like the dream game of one of the FO developers is a FO game set in pre-war Europe/middle east. That would be pretty interesting and it also shows that a FO se in a Pre-war or a non-american setting might be possible.