Poll: Where do you stand on animal rights?

[SnowCold]

Try thinking alittle before you make a thread.

I dought anyone here is pro animal abuse, but alot of thoose people have no problom with eating animals or using them for sience, yes or no is no way to dieced this subject.

 

[Dr. UBAR]

Any animal has the same rights as I do. They do have less mental power and often lower ranges of emotion BUT absolutely every animal feels pain.

 

[GoldenCondor]

Don't be silly!
Animals don't have rights, they have flavors!

 

[Emilin_Rose]

For father time and dancing: Did i not just say, that we are WORRYING about RATS when millions of PEOPLE are dying of aids, because people are NOT MORE VALUABLE than rats.

My hitman, the life insurance salesman, the coroner, the people in need of blood or organs all say you are completely wrong on that one.

If you ask me we're less valuable. If any religion other than the greek gods is right then we are all doing some great sin or another within our daily lives that we don't even think about and thus are all going to hell. And when i see you both there i will be smiling, simply because I TOLD YOU SO.

And yet most of those same religions tell us that animals are less significant than we are. The Hindus have you re-incarnate as animals for punishment, the old testament has verses saying which animals you can and cannot eat the Muslims have their own brand of special meat and I'm pretty sure all of those religions openly condemn cannibalism.

and furthermore, an early death isn't the point. It's not going to be a person, just like a lab rat isn't going to be a pet. We use it to find a cure, just like the rats, then we let it die in peace. WHICH BY THE WAY is more than we give the rats.

I don't understand the logic that says animals are equal to humans and yet fetuses are insignificant enough to kill for our benefit but not every rat dies in agony.

Fetuses are the same value as humans. Your hitman, life insurance salesman, and organ needing people, who by the way could have their organs grown from stem cells, if people would shut the fuck up about the feelings of fetuses, are all humans. Of course they think they have value.

And furthermore your "fetuses are people too" argument meets with my "so was Hitler" response, in a deadpan voice that could care less if you became the son of god or dropped dead where you stand.

Humans are no more valuable than animals. Less even. You don't see the rats destroying every other species because they forgot how one lives without cable television for more than a week.

And "not every rat dies in agony" is utter bullshit. They all die in pain from being poked with needles containing various liquids that may keep them alive another hour, only to die anyway, while the government wastes millions on it only to find it will fail in humans, time and time again.

and as for your last argument, you are missing the entire point. You want to cure leprosy in dogs you experiment on dogs. If you want to cure people, stop making everything else in the world miserable because "humans have more value" and start experimenting on humans, or at least unborn ones.

But your argument is irrelevant. We're all going to die and we're all going to hell. So by all means, continue to think of yourself as superior. Just remember any religion that split off from christianity lists Vanity, or Pride, whatever you want to call it, as the WORST of sins. I'm done with you and your chatter.

 

[RavingPenguin]

Define "animal rights." Do you mean they should get a say in society, like full human rights?
oooorrrr, do you mean that they shouldnt be beaten? Cuz we have the second one already. I say if animal want rights they should rise up and fight for them, like every other minority has.

 

[Nemorov]

Well, it depends.
I'm generally against animal cruelty, but I reckon eating meat is perfectly okay.
I mean, as long as they're not being horribly mistreated before they're brutally slaughtered so I can eat them, I don't see where the problem is.

I definitely agree with this. Animal cruelty is not the good. I think pets and food are two different matters (well, not in some places in the world... but I digress), but even food animals should be treated with a bit more respect than they generally get.

And it makes the meat taste better...

 

[Cliff_m85]

Considering I hold most animals in higher regard then humans, yeah I defiantly support animal rights. Even if the animal is being raised for food, it should still be properly cared for until it's time for it to become food.

Which is odd, because humans are animals as well.

 

[Andalusa]

I am for Animal Rights.
Every life is a life regardless of shape, animals don't deserve any less than humans just because the don't have opposable thumbs.

 

[Scrythe]

Animals have the right to be delicious.

If a fucking animal can trot on over to a poll and vote, or operate machinery, or develop a fucking opinion, then yes they should have rights. Until then I'm going to enjoy my medium-rare steaks, thank-you-very-much.

Before you call me a heartless monster, I'm all against abuse and whatnot. Being a looong time pet owner grew my Grinch heart a few sizes larger, and pit fights are quite barbari- err, wrong. But if we were to get rid of everything that animal research has taught us, our life expectancy would plummet and I'm sure a lot of you reading this right now probably wouldn't be alive.

 

[crypt-creature]

Silly Wabbit animals don't have rights.

When animals evolve telekinesis and tell me they are afraid to die then maybe I'll change my mind. Otherwise, before you know it flies will be asking for equal rights.

Eh, in some way you could compare that to some mentally handicap people.
They can feel pain and fear, but they might not be able to for a coherent sentence to say so. But the sounds they make will indicate they are feeling pain.
Animals are the same way. Just because something can't jump up and speak whatever language a person was raised on to say 'I'm in pain here, stop it' doesn't mean they don't feel pain or fear.

Animals have to right not to be abused. Even animals we eat don't need to be treated poorly just because we're going to eat them, they also don't need to be pampered like a household pet but they do deserve decency.

But if we were to get rid of everything that animal research has taught us, our life expectancy would plummet and I'm sure a lot of you reading this right now probably wouldn't be alive.

True, but the cold truth is we could still experiment on other humans, but the human brain is wired to feel more pity for something that looks like us and can 'speak' to us to indicate pain.
Abuse in any form is distasteful, no matter who or what it's done too.

 

[MoganFreeman]

Hunting: AGAINST, if you want to kill for sport you should be allowed only a knife. Maybe a spear.

Drug Testing: FOR, I am down to sacrifice a few mice to save human lives.

Cosmetic testing: AGAINST, I am not, however, down to sacrifice lives so fat Americans can get the latest anti-cellulite cream.

Factory farms: FOR, free market forces will keep my organic, free-range farms around while factory food feeds the proles for cheap.

 

[CrafterMan]

I agree with a few of you here.
I am not a vegan, or vegitarian. In fact, I love BBQ! I simply believe animals should be treated fairly UNTIL their deaths, whether it be cattle, or domestic pet.

Yeah man, it's all about treating them humanely, no point abusing them, even if we have to eat them, we can still make it a quick and painless death.

Joe

 

[Crowser]

You need more options on your poll than: "I'm a vegan", "I'm a killer" and "I don't give a shit."

I'm not above eating meat or anything, that's a perfectly normal part of nature, but I'm not about to go out and club baby seals or see how many cigarettes it takes to give a monkey lung cancer.

 

[Halfbreed13]

"Meat is murder. Tasty, tasty, murder."
+1 Intarnets for teh winar.

 

[walls of cetepedes]

However, our foodstuff...slaughter them, but do it humanely. Don't drag out the death in anyway shape or form. I know I wouldn't want to be part of a slow painful death if I knew someone was going to eat me X_X .

Why would they drag out the death? That's just inefficient.

I forgot the url, but there is a KFC video of people throwing chickens at walls and what not. Yeah, thats kinda what I'm talking about.

What. The. Fuck.

OT: I believe that animals should not have unnessecery harm come to them, but not make it so we can't eat them.

 

[Arkhangelsk]

I'm not a vegetarian, but I hate cruelty against animals. I'm thinking that I won't make a difference by not eating meat, so I just as well might enjoy it. Don't blame me, I'm only eating, it's the farmers that slaughter them.