I really think they need to take it out of the USA now, show that the formula has legs for greater versatility too. Voted London, but dozens of other iconic world cities could work too (Tokyo comes to mind as well).
Poll: Where should GTA VI be set?
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Won't happen, if they wish to remain consistent with the in game navigation theme that GTA5 and GTA4 have both used then the next game will have the player use a mobile or smart phone to do a vast amount of the in game navigation (until it is pointed out you don;t see just how much of GTA5 and GTA5 online is done through the in game smart phone. No smart phones in the 80s and since Vice City was a game as much about the era as it was the location I can't see how they could take us back there without introducing a clunky out of game interface for navigating or introducing a whole lot of driving round to reach pay phones.
Also that Rockstar have already said Vice City is a no non specifically because it was a game of it's era, a city set in the 80s and that they had no intention of revisiting that.
Not that it matters, what GTA5 online has shown is that the next GTA game will be some online focused beast, it may have some protagonist centred story aspect but chances are it will be a larger more widespread version of what GTA5 online is just now, no doubt with player focused customisation, wider choices in ways to do and spend money... well fuck anything that involves players having to either grind for cash or better yet ponying up the real world dosh for in game cash. What I can say is if their is even the slightest hint that GTA6 contains any aspect of the online peer to peer infrastructure that GTA5 has, the structure that is utter gash and barely borders on being a useable or functional system then Rockstar can forget me buying the next game.
For the satire in GTA to work the setting and culture need to feel familiar for the audience, which rules out any games set outside of the US.
Not as depressing as the amount of cash Rockstar have not only made from the game itself but the Shark Card sales attached to the online part of the game and it looks like they spent not one cent on making the infrastructure capable of supporting it. I've said it in a few GTA threads the whole online system is like a house of cards, every new DLC they add adds to the top of that house and one day they will add a DLC that will cause the whole lot to just fall over.
Why?Breakdown said:
Are you suggesting that an American audience is not familiar enough with the stereotypical portrayal of other western nations to find entertainment?
A game set in London would be fine. If you want to be boring you could go for a whole Guy Ritchie thing. You play as Vinnie Jones caving people's heads in with car doors and speaking "All proper, like. Innit." Gangsters, high speed chases around the familiar landmarks, steal the Crown Jewels from the Tower, you could even go into the countryside and have to deal with the yokels of South-West England. Driving tractors around the moors and going scrumping. Proper job.
A game set in Melbourne would be fine. There's a serious message to be said there with the Aboriginal situation and the current levels of Islamophobia occuring across the country right now, "Stop the boats" and all that. But I'm sure you can all think of a million "Chazwozza" type jokes to be made a la The Simpsons or Crocodile Dundee or something. I dunno, the writers at Rockstar are smarter than I am, they could easily come up with something.
Hell if you wanted something a bit different, a game set in Tokyo would be fine. I don't think I even need to give any examples, the potential speaks for itself. The Yakuza, driving around Akihabara, drifting through the mountain roads, neon, kawaii bullshit, so many potential parodies...
We've got numerous people in here saying that the GTA games are getting stale with the same American City setting. If they wanted to mix it up a bit, without visiting a different time period again, setting it overseas is an excellent way to do that. I don't think that alienates the American fans at all.
A lot of hate for the online. I find it heaps of fun. Especially if you have good friends. I mean it's coop gta? The opportunities for fun are endless. Sure people pay real money to buy stuff. But it's not like it's pay to win. You still die to the same amount of bullets.
Well, the online is fine if it's just a supplement to the main game but the fact we never got any story DLC for GTA5 is probably a bad sign. The online part of GTA5 is such a cash cow for Rockstar that it would definitely make sense for the next game(from a business perspective) to be an online game. I don't think that will necessarily happen but I do think the online part of GTA6 will dominate the development process much more. Probably at the detriment of the SP experience(again similarly to GTA5 and its DLC).WolfThomas said:
I would enjoy it being somewhere in South America. Tropical weather with deep forests and tall cloudy mountains would be such a great place.
But aslong as it's not set in Great Britain I'm happy. My god, the news there would be 99% about some idiot driving on the WRONG side of the road! ;P
Cheers.
But aslong as it's not set in Great Britain I'm happy. My god, the news there would be 99% about some idiot driving on the WRONG side of the road! ;P
Cheers.
The US is not the only nation that can be satirized, I can think of plenty of ways to take the piss out of the English, the Australians, the Japanese (the three most requested so far) and plenty of other nations.Breakdown said:
America is definitely the easiest nation to take the piss out of though.
Yes. It's an international audience, rather than American, but American culture is the most dominant.mardocOz said:
If you think about all of the various radio stations in the previous games, the television shows, and the pop culture references, there isn't enough familiarity with other cultures to provide that level of satire. There is zero chance of a GTA game set entirely outside of the USA. The best you could hope for is some kind of border location with Mexican, Canadian or even Cuban locations.
Does this include the one that's already happened?Breakdown said:
I fear you may have missed my point, although by doing so you have made another valid one for me. I'm aware that it's an international audience and they would be keen to see a GTA game in another setting, but my point was more that an American audience would have little to no difficulty in adjusting to a game set in another locale. Especially if you were to say the main character (or one of the main characters) was a displaced American.
For example, a GTA game set in London could have you play as an American, a Brit, and... I dunno... a Russian. Or someone from Poland. All in London for different reasons, all caught up in the criminal underworld and they end up working together. Now SURELY Americans are familiar enough with their British cousins to be aware of at least some of the stereotypes?
Think about it. Snooty posh British types (like the weird old couple stealing celeb rubbish in GTA V), the criminal gangsters (think any Guy Ritchie movie), chavs and hoodies, weird "local" types from rural villages (a la The League of Gentlemen or Shaun of the Dead), football (soccer) hooligans, heck I'm sure you could make some jokes about how much Americans don't understand cricket. And that's off the top of my head. There's so much room for parody, all of it I'm sure an American audience would understand.
"Yes, London. You know. Fish? Chips? Cup o' tea? Bad food? Worse weather? Mary-fuckin'-Poppins? London!"
I just don't think so. The cockney gangster films, have they actually been all that successful, internationally? I think their global cultural impact is overestimated. In any case London wouldn't have much environmental diversity either. Forget about mountains and deserts.mardocOz said:
"Avi!"mardocOz said:
"Shut up and sit down you big bald fuck!" *Love that fuckin movie*
You make excellent points all around but the fact of the matter is that setting GTA outside of the us seems to fall contrary to Rockstar's gameplay design in every gta since III.
They all offer up morally ambiguous criminal leads.
They all satirize American pop culture.
They all borrow heavily from the crime films of Michael Mann and Brian De Palma for the tone of their criminal underworld.
They all make driving the most important and accessible mode of travel.
Minutia like speeding, gas managment, and traffic rules never apply.
No children characters. Tracy and James from V seem like exceptions to the rule but they're old enough to both drive and engage in adult activities without raising too much of an eyebrow.
The genre will be contemporary. Never sci-fi or historical.
The overall tone of the story will be a combination of heavy drama and comedy (think Carlito's Way).
It's fun to wonder what or where their next game will take place but a safe bet would be to keep your guesses within the parameters above or risk disappointment.
I think the issue with setting GTA outside of the USA is that most, Western, countries aren't as lax with their gun laws.
It would be kind of unheard of to see someone in Australia shooting up civilians in the streets, unless you set it back in the 80s or something and even then...
The US of A is kind of, uh...great(?)...when it comes to violence.
I mean, this country FEEDS of it.
We couldn't even pass any kind of background check laws, even when 90+ of the population wants it, because the NRA and their bitches in DC ain't got the stones to do it.
Shit, we've had little kids being killed and all the NRA/GOP does is drink their blood like Dracula.
So, yeah...U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A!
It would be kind of unheard of to see someone in Australia shooting up civilians in the streets, unless you set it back in the 80s or something and even then...
The US of A is kind of, uh...great(?)...when it comes to violence.
I mean, this country FEEDS of it.
We couldn't even pass any kind of background check laws, even when 90+ of the population wants it, because the NRA and their bitches in DC ain't got the stones to do it.
Shit, we've had little kids being killed and all the NRA/GOP does is drink their blood like Dracula.
So, yeah...U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A!