RJ 17 said:
Really? Because from the tone of things in Skyrim, the Dominion has the Empire bent over a barrel and it's reaching for the lube. Like I thought the entire purpose behind the civil war was because Stormcloak didn't think the Empire should be bowing to the Dominion, and specifically that the Nords shouldn't be bowing to anybody but a High King...which is why the Empire wants to crush Stormcloak's rebellion, so the Dominion wouldn't get pissed off and invade again.
I do agree, though, that a game set in Valenwood during the inevitable conflict wouldn't go amiss. However, isn't it "tradition" that the games are set centuries apart from one another? I fear the upcoming conflict - if not made into an official expension like how Shivering Isles was an official expansion - might just get skipped over if they make a new game.
Actually Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion were set in a 34 year timespan, it was only Skyrim that set itself hundred of years later. Arena: 3E 399, Daggerfall: 3E 405, Morrowind: 3E 427, Oblivion: 3E 433, Skyrim: 4E 201
Also the Elves have no winning because Lorkhan, Akatosh, Sithis, and Talos, are working against them. Last time the Elves oppressed mankind Lorkhan sent Pelinal Whitestreak back in time, and he destroyed entire nations by himself. The avatars of the gods, be they Lorkhan's Shezzarines, or Akatosh's Dovahkiins, are god-like beings that destroy entire civilizations.
The elves were doomed to fail from the start, as Elves are the Elder Scrolls loser race
-The Alyeids were killed to extinction by The Imperials
-The Dunmer got their entire race cursed
-The Dwemer unmade their entire race, except one
-The Falmer got their asses handed to them by the Nords, then got mutated into monsters
-The Left-Handed Elves were killed to extinction by the Redguards
-The Moamer got their asses kick so hard that even hundreds of years later they haven't recovered
-Some Aldmer got mutated into Orismer when their god Triminac was beaten by Boeathia and eaten.
Glademaster said:
I wasn't aware Alinor shifted to Valenwood.
Alinor is the name of The Summerset Isles, and the capitol of the Summerset Isles. The Aldmeri Dominion's capitol is Elden Root in Valenwood, which became the capitol of Valenwood after the Thalmor changed it from Fallensti.
nasteypenguin said:
I don't really know the lore too well but, I thought Lorkhan has been dead since the creation of Nirn? It's not really consequential to the topic but I'd still like to know.
All the gods are dead, having died at the creation of the mortal realm. In The Elder scrolls universe belief affects reality. The gods "live" because of mortal's belief in them, in essence they are in a coma and mortal belief is like life support. Whenever a god appears, like Akatosh did at the end of Oblivion, he is still dead, his body is just being puppeted by mortals.
That is also why there are so many different variations on what the gods are across the cultures, it is because as all these people believe in different version of the same god, the same god changes to fit each and every single variation. Akatosh, Auri-El, Auriel, Alkosh, Tosh Raka, are all the same dragon-god of time, and have all the qualities and personalities each different race has given them, despite those qualities and personalities being contradictory. It's like having split personality disorder to the point each personality tears itself from you and get its own body while still being you. All versions of the gods exist, are the same god, are dead, and can fight against each other, no matter how contradictory and impossible that seems. Akatosh can plan against Auri-el, while Auri-El wages war against Alkosh, despite them being the same god.
It is also the explanation for all the various contradictory creation myths, some myths say Lorkhan was killed by Triminac ripping out his heart, others say Lorkhan ripped out his own heart... the truth is that all contradictory creation myths are all equally true. It was just a diff rent Lorkhan that is also the same Lorkhan in each one.
It is ALSO why Mankar Camreon called the gods liars in Oblivion, the gods people worship AREN'T the same as the gods that created the mortal realm, they are all creations of mortals torn from the carcasses of the original gods bodies.
Also Talos is Lorkhan reincarnated, which is why the Thlamor hate him so much. Tiber Septim, Ysmir Wulfharth, and Zurin Arctus, the three men who merged to form Talos, were all Shezzarines, avatars of Shezzar, which is the Imperial's name for Lorkhan. So Lorkhan is alive that way also.