The stereotype that annoys me the most is the one surrounding the bassist, especially knowing of musicians like Geddy Lee and (rest in peace) Cliff Burton.
Poll: Which band stereotype is worse?
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In My experience Drummers aren't these things, what they are is awkward, in the way they act, think and compose.
Vocalists.... well the steriotype is completaly true in almost all cases
Guitarists, also normally true I would also like to add that they think that solo's are the best part of the song.
Bassist - This sterio type is wrong, at least in my case. The bassist is the one person in the band who acctually understands that no one person is the most important (kind of like the organs in the human body, without one the rest don't work (apart from the appendix, but that's the synth player)). And there is a massive differance which most people don't understand between a Bassist and a bass player...
1) A bassist never uses a pick.
2) A bassist didn't pick up the bass, because it was easier than guitar.
3) A bassist doesn't think guitar is a harder instrament to play than guitar (which is true it's just that most bass players are shit musicians)
4) A bassist has chunky fingures (well not neccasarily they just normally do)
5) A bassist knows of and has listened to (and enjoyed) at least one famous bassist (eg. Victor Wooten)
6) A bassist takes part in the writting of the songs, not just adding a simpler version of the guitar everywhere.
7) A bassist hates Indie and Emo (although I suppose that's just a general rule amongst musicians)
8) A bassist is not the guitarists *****.
There where a few more which I can't remember now but you get the point.
Vocalists.... well the steriotype is completaly true in almost all cases
Guitarists, also normally true I would also like to add that they think that solo's are the best part of the song.
Bassist - This sterio type is wrong, at least in my case. The bassist is the one person in the band who acctually understands that no one person is the most important (kind of like the organs in the human body, without one the rest don't work (apart from the appendix, but that's the synth player)). And there is a massive differance which most people don't understand between a Bassist and a bass player...
1) A bassist never uses a pick.
2) A bassist didn't pick up the bass, because it was easier than guitar.
3) A bassist doesn't think guitar is a harder instrament to play than guitar (which is true it's just that most bass players are shit musicians)
4) A bassist has chunky fingures (well not neccasarily they just normally do)
5) A bassist knows of and has listened to (and enjoyed) at least one famous bassist (eg. Victor Wooten)
6) A bassist takes part in the writting of the songs, not just adding a simpler version of the guitar everywhere.
7) A bassist hates Indie and Emo (although I suppose that's just a general rule amongst musicians)
8) A bassist is not the guitarists *****.
There where a few more which I can't remember now but you get the point.
I vote bassists. People really do seem to ignore them, hell some bands (white stripes, black keys) don't even have a bass player. Of course, there are players like U2's Adam Clayton who don't do much for the stereotype, but there are so many unbelievably good players out there, from Mike Dirnt and Duff McKagan to Jaco Pastorius, Flea, Les Claypool, etc. In reference to earlier comments, a good bass and drums track to check out is Metallica's Anaesthesia (pulling teeth) featuring Cliff Burton.
Yeah, I stand corrected. GOOD drummers who are dependable, you can stand, and have their own drumsets. THOSE are hard to come by.Berethond said:
and the general stereotype is of keyboardists is pretentious twits. Which of course is completely true.
I kid.
All of them are stupid, actually. I cannot choose. I play guitar, and I've played with a band. And I did leave, but I didn't hate the band. Only the other guitarist. But that was for good reasons.
These stereotypes are stupid and I can think of at least one exception for each. I myself am a vocalist and I know full well that a band can be made of awesome without any vocals at all. Look at funeral doom metal band Mournful Congregation or smooth jazz player Keiko Matsui. The latter never has any lyrics at all and her music is amazing. The former has a number of songs that do not utilize lyrics (such as The June Frost) which are astonishing in their awesomeness.
I picked drummer on the poll though, cause, wtf?
I picked drummer on the poll though, cause, wtf?
Can anyone name the Bass player of Queen without googling it? Thought not.
But I'd say the vocalist part is right, I'm self centred obnoxious and I am what makes our band great, well that and I write all our songs, like "The cats are all on fire" and "shoot the monkey".
But I'd say the vocalist part is right, I'm self centred obnoxious and I am what makes our band great, well that and I write all our songs, like "The cats are all on fire" and "shoot the monkey".
Ah, yes. Cliff Burton is a good example. I saw one of the videos where he put some heavy distortion on the bass and started shredding more than Kirk Hammett did. R.I.P, you mad bastard.TaborMallory said:
The drummer and bassist stereotype is equally terrible. You can't have a good band without a strong rhythm section. However, as a drummer myself, the drummer's stereotype probably offends me more than the bassist stereotype.
You have just put everything into words that I was thinking. I'm a bassist myself, though I haven't played in years, and no one thought I was important. Same with tuba. Everyone said to that: "It's just heavy and low. What's it do?" I was the only tuba in band class, so naturally I got plenty shit. I never practiced, so I was very far behind everyone else. Then I kicked into gear and worked into band. I got pretty awesome.G1eet said:
Anyways, these are rock band stereotypes? What about Tuba=Fat guy (even though that's true in my case), or Sax=every cool kid. I'm not complaining, but there are other even worse stereotypes to cover.
I would have to go with the drummer stereotype, but then again I am biased as I am a drummer.
I think a lot of it comes from the manufacturing of bands. Drummers and bassists are encouraged to play extremely within themselves, as simple 4/4 rhythms get heads nodding and feet tapping. Because of this any sort of guitar solo by default takes precedence in the song as it is the "only skilled playing". And egocentric vocalists and frontmen are always likely to catch the eye, increasing visibility and thus sales.
I think it's only when you take more complex music that the true value of each instrument can be appreciated, and you can see how interdependent they all are.
I think a lot of it comes from the manufacturing of bands. Drummers and bassists are encouraged to play extremely within themselves, as simple 4/4 rhythms get heads nodding and feet tapping. Because of this any sort of guitar solo by default takes precedence in the song as it is the "only skilled playing". And egocentric vocalists and frontmen are always likely to catch the eye, increasing visibility and thus sales.
I think it's only when you take more complex music that the true value of each instrument can be appreciated, and you can see how interdependent they all are.
Well I'm a drummer and I'd say, while I have perfect rhythm, I am quite musically illiterate. I can't really read music and can't play any other instrument.suckmyBR said:
Also in the case of frontmen, it's more the fans fault because they're the most noticeable one and so the ones that fans most adore on most occasions, therefore this naturally feeds their ego
Sorry, mabye I didn't make that very clear.lwm3398 said:
I'm going to assume most of the people on this post play bass, including me.
