Poll: Which band stereotype is worse?

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zen5887 said:
I've never figured it out.. What's wrong with using a pick anyways?

Its awesome for getting a sharper attack, something you can't get with your fingers.
Yes, you can. If you got a good bass & amp and you know how to use them.
 

Captain Bobbossa

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Ok this is getting annoying now.

zen5887 said:
I use a pick. The bassist from Yes also uses one. Lots of bassists in different kinds of rock use picks as well. I also use my fingers for softer songs.
Well then as said in the origional statement they are not BASSISTS, they just play bass.

Captain Bobbossa said:
Well then you obviously know alot of really thick peopleas the bass is the timekeeper weather a band chooses someone else or not.
zen5887 said:
Thick people reject new ideas. Not the other way around.
That statement has nothing to do with what I was talking about. WTF?

Captain Bobbossa said:
I don't think that, I don't think they are bassists at all.
zen5887 said:
Not being able to see the picking as a valid form of playing is bad for you, not for the pick bassists. You should do yourself a favor and open up a little bit.
You should stop using a pick
 

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zen5887 said:
Captain Bobbossa said:
zen5887 said:
Captain Bobbossa said:
I don't think that, I don't think they are bassists at all.
..Kay..

And in the event that someone uses both?
Well in that case they are still using a pick aren't they?
I've never figured it out.. What's wrong with using a pick anyways?

Its awesome for getting a sharper attack, something you can't get with your fingers.
As a matter of fact yes you can, you kind of slap/slam your index and middle fingers when plucking/strumming/whatever.

EDIT: you can also do this thing which I like to call flicking, which is pretty self explanitory where you flick alternativly with your index and thumb using your nails.
 

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chimpzy said:
Captain Bobbossa said:
zen5887 said:
Captain Bobbossa said:
I don't think that, I don't think they are bassists at all.
..Kay..

And in the event that someone uses both?
Well in that case they are still using a pick aren't they?
Does it really matter if someone uses fingers, a pick, a bow or even their goddamn ass?

So long as that person lays down a righteous groove, it shouldn't.

Anyway, to be on topic. If find that most musicians I know don't really correspond to their stereotypes or are even complete opposites.

PS: your avatar is quite tasteful.
As is yours.

The whole Bassist doesn't use a pick thing is all down to standing up for yourself as a musician kinda thing and not being the guitarists ***** which I believe was also one of the guidlines/rules to being a bassist.
 
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Captain Bobbossa said:
You should stop using a pick
Please stop being a flamebait. Either appreciate that there are different ideas of being a Bassist than your own or stop posting. I personally don't use a pick but realise that it make s a great sound depending on the genre played.
 

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suckmyBR said:
Captain Bobbossa said:
You should stop using a pick
Please stop being a flamebait. Either appreciate that there are different ideas of being a Bassist than your own or stop posting. I personally don't use a pick but realise that it make s a great sound depending on the genre played.
Yes there are differant ideas however the pick on a bass is a terrible one and one that should not be used.

And I'm not being a flamebait this is something I acctually care a fair bit about.
 
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Captain Bobbossa said:
suckmyBR said:
Captain Bobbossa said:
You should stop using a pick
Please stop being a flamebait. Either appreciate that there are different ideas of being a Bassist than your own or stop posting. I personally don't use a pick but realise that it make s a great sound depending on the genre played.
Yes there are differant ideas however the pick on a bass is a terrible one and one that should not be used.

And I'm not being a flamebait this is something I acctually care a fair bit about.
Just because you care about it doesn't make you not a flamebait. Have you not realised that you're the only one who dislikes the idea of using picks, there are many great bassists that have used picks. Why can you not accept that it makes a good sound for certain genres?

Also I find it very ironic that you plainly just call everyone who disagrees with you wrong before claiming you aren't being a flamebait.
 

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suckmyBR said:
Captain Bobbossa said:
suckmyBR said:
Captain Bobbossa said:
You should stop using a pick
Please stop being a flamebait. Either appreciate that there are different ideas of being a Bassist than your own or stop posting. I personally don't use a pick but realise that it make s a great sound depending on the genre played.
Yes there are differant ideas however the pick on a bass is a terrible one and one that should not be used.

And I'm not being a flamebait this is something I acctually care a fair bit about.
Just because you care about it doesn't make you not a flamebait. Have you not realised that you're the only one who dislikes the idea of using picks, there are many great bassists that have used picks. Why can you not accept that it makes a good sound for certain genres?

Also I find it very ironic that you plainly just call everyone who disagrees with you wrong before claiming you aren't being a flamebait.
Yes but if I was a flamebait I would be purposfully doing this to start a fire war thingy (or whatever you call it) which I'm not, t just happens to end up that way.

"many great BASS PLAYERS have used picks" (not bassists, I've already highghted this several times)

And as I've also already said you can make the exact same sound (infact a better one) just as easily if not easier with your fingers.
 

Chimpzy_v1legacy

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Captain Bobbossa said:
As is yours.

The whole Bassist doesn't use a pick thing is all down to standing up for yourself as a musician kinda thing and not being the guitarists ***** which I believe was also one of the guidlines/rules to being a bassist.
I can understand what you're getting at. Some people have these preconceptions about what each musicians role should be within a band, and yes, they are annoying. But dismissing a technique because of that is not the answer. It's simply replacing one bias with another. I'm not saying you shouldn't stand up for yourself, but there are other ways.

When I first started playing in bands, I played in punk and metalbands and used fingerstyle because I was far better with it. Once in a while someone would come up and tell me I had to use picks instead. Or stay in the back 'where bassists belong'. Back then bassist were even rarer than drummers (and still are) so if anyone gave me any lip about how I played or behaved as a bassist, I gave them the choice of either shutting up, leaving themselves or watching me up and leave. After all, plenty of other band could use a good bassist.

I have left bands because one or more of the other musicians was an elitist or otherwise insufferable prick. I've also seen people kicked out for that same reason. Finding a good band in which you are fully appreciated can be somewhat of an artform, but nothing that can't be solved with a little perseverance.

At any rate, my experience is that sentiments and stereotypes like that tend to die with age. I've found them to be far more prevalent amongst the youngers and more inexperienced musicians (on average, I also know quite a few notable exceptions). I have met and know many musicians over, say, 40 years old and rarely do I meet one that still thinks like that.
 

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Captain Bobbossa said:
Ok this is getting annoying now.

zen5887 said:
I use a pick. The bassist from Yes also uses one. Lots of bassists in different kinds of rock use picks as well. I also use my fingers for softer songs.
Well then as said in the origional statement they are not BASSISTS, they just play bass.
hahaha

Captain Bobbossa said:
The Piano (not synth) player is up themselves and snobbish when really they aren't musicians as the keyboard is a MACHINE not an INSTRAMENT.
Okay so I guess I'm an engineer now.
 

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Captain Bobbossa said:
zen5887 said:
Captain Bobbossa said:
zen5887 said:
Captain Bobbossa said:
I don't think that, I don't think they are bassists at all.
..Kay..

And in the event that someone uses both?
Well in that case they are still using a pick aren't they?
I've never figured it out.. What's wrong with using a pick anyways?

Its awesome for getting a sharper attack, something you can't get with your fingers.
As a matter of fact yes you can, you kind of slap/slam your index and middle fingers when plucking/strumming/whatever.

EDIT: you can also do this thing which I like to call flicking, which is pretty self explanitory where you flick alternativly with your index and thumb using your nails.
You can also get a pretty close sound by playing (with fingers) behind your back pick up, about an inch away from the bridge. This is incredibly annoying and can get quite painful, this is why I would use a pick - Strong attack/tone with very little extra effort.

As for the amp thing, if you can get an awesome attack with your fingers and an amp, you can get an even better attack with a pick and an amp.

This is fresh

Captain Bobbossa said:
The whole Bassist doesn't use a pick thing is all down to standing up for yourself as a musician kinda thing and not being the guitarists ***** which I believe was also one of the guidlines/rules to being a bassist.
I used to be like this, about a year and a half into my playing I grew up...

Actually, I don't really care.. After reading your other posts (especially the one about the Piano.. Hi-larious), I realised you don't really know what you are talking about. I don't have to prove anything to you, if I use a pick or follow the guitarists like, that doesn't mean I am any less of a Bassist I know that, the people I play with know that and my lecturers know that. Normally I would throw in a bunch of music theory references but its to early and I have to go to uni, play in my band and use a pick.
 

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Zen5887 said:
You can also get a pretty close sound by playing (with fingers) behind your back pick up, about an inch away from the bridge. This is incredibly annoying and can get quite painful, this is why I would use a pick - Strong attack/tone with very little extra effort.
Well then you obviously havn't got very strong fingures as I have never found/heard of anyone finding that painful before.

Zen5887 said:
As for the amp thing, if you can get an awesome attack with your fingers and an amp, you can get an even better attack with a pick and an amp.
I didn't say anything about an amp?

Zen5887 said:
I used to be like this, about a year and a half into my playing I grew up...
Noo you just thought you did because you can follow a trend. Well done.
 

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As a drummer, I'm literate and pretty intelligent.
I get pissed off whenever somebody passes off one of those stereotype drummers on TV or in a book and such.