Poll: Which Came First: The Chicken or the Egg?

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UnityRiot

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I had a really heated debate over this with some chick the other day XD

The Egg. For sure.
 

Tomster595

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meepop said:
Tomster595 said:
Egg, since the first chicken egg would have been laid by the chicken's evolutionary ancestor.
Ok, I see...so it wasn't a fully-evolved chicken? Then please tell me what kind of feathers it had? Oh wait that's right you don't know; no one does. My point is, yes it may have been laid by its ancestor, but what HEATED the egg?! That's what I'm telling everyone! Unless you want to kill an egg, trust me; if you DO want to kill an egg, go on the internet, find your local farm with chickens, and ask the farmer!
/sigh, Just read what I added to my first post
 

Lukeje

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meepop said:
Tomster595 said:
Egg, since the first chicken egg would have been laid by the chicken's evolutionary ancestor.
Ok, I see...so it wasn't a fully-evolved chicken? Then please tell me what kind of feathers it had? Oh wait that's right you don't know; no one does. My point is, yes it may have been laid by its ancestor, but what HEATED the egg?! That's what I'm telling everyone! Unless you want to kill an egg, trust me; if you DO want to kill an egg, go on the internet, find your local farm with chickens, and ask the farmer!
I'm pretty sure the proto-chicken would have had a means of making sure its offspring survived. Ya know, otherwise it wouldn't have hatched itself?

Edit: and I'd like to point out that even dinosaurs had feathers...
 

SultanP

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Well, seeing as there were animals laying eggs before chickens came to be, the egg. And even if the question is specifically for an egg containing a chicken, the answer is still the egg.
 

meepop

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Why do people keep saying the egg?! Evolution happens not just in the egg, but during an organism's life! You guys don't get it! Chickens live because they have mothers, who incubate them; if chickens evolved from dinosaurs, then please remember that reptiles don't have feathers, and didn't watch their eggs. By the way guys I said for your REASON for your choice of which came first!
 

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Mydnyght said:
ANSWER: Egg.
REASON: There were other egg-producing animals before chickens existed. Like dinosaurs.
agreed, Fish were laying eggs for millions of years before chickens were around. And dinosaurs as well, and many other animals.
 

Cherry Cola

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meepop said:
TheNamlessGuy said:
tomtom94 said:
The egg.
Because chickens probably evolved from a different species of bird.
Exactly.

We've had the answer to this question for years.
Why bother?
Easy: Something had to INCUBATE said egg, unless it just incubated itself
And what cold hard fact states that the species of bird the chicken evolved from didn't incubate its eggs?
 

Lukeje

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meepop said:
Why do people keep saying the egg?! Evolution happens not just in the egg, but during an organism's life! You guys don't get it! Chickens live because they have mothers, who incubate them; if chickens evolved from dinosaurs, then please remember that reptiles don't have feathers, and didn't watch their eggs. By the way guys I said for your REASON for your choice of which came first!
Some species of dinosaurs did have feathers. They you know evolved them.
 

meepop

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Tomster595 said:
Egg, since the first chicken egg would have been laid by the chicken's evolutionary ancestor.

meepop said:
Ok, this is all I can say: the egg could not have been it; from what tellmeimaninja said, if some organism laid an egg, chickens cannot swim. Any type of egg needs warmth! And by the way, the organism would have to have the down feathers of a chicken to be able to incubate the egg; so stop thinking it's the egg, something has to HEAT IT!
It wouldn't have been a swimming organism. It would be an organism that is almost exactly like a chicken. It would have feathers and all that junk so that it could lay and heat the egg.
Ok, an organism almost exactly like a chicken...Yeah I'll buy it, if you have proof =). Everyone's hung up on proto-chicken ancestors who came just before the chicken, so riddle me this: What was it called then!? That's right, give me the EXACT name (scientific or normal) of the proto-chicken and I'll side with eggs! But until then I'm remaining neutral because as much as I want to know, I don't. And don't just say "What point do you have to post this if you don't know it or have a side?" I wanted to know what you guys thought!
 

Lukeje

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meepop said:
Tomster595 said:
Egg, since the first chicken egg would have been laid by the chicken's evolutionary ancestor.

meepop said:
Ok, this is all I can say: the egg could not have been it; from what tellmeimaninja said, if some organism laid an egg, chickens cannot swim. Any type of egg needs warmth! And by the way, the organism would have to have the down feathers of a chicken to be able to incubate the egg; so stop thinking it's the egg, something has to HEAT IT!
It wouldn't have been a swimming organism. It would be an organism that is almost exactly like a chicken. It would have feathers and all that junk so that it could lay and heat the egg.
Ok, an organism almost exactly like a chicken...Yeah I'll buy it, if you have proof =). Everyone's hung up on proto-chicken ancestors who came just before the chicken, so riddle me this: What was it called then!? That's right, give me the EXACT name (scientific or normal) of the proto-chicken and I'll side with eggs! But until then I'm remaining neutral because as much as I want to know, I don't. And don't just say "What point do you have to post this if you don't know it or have a side?" I wanted to know what you guys thought!
What's wrong with `proto-chicken'?
 

Kodlak

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The egg of course, I would like to point you to <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/doomsday-arcade/793-Episode-12> Doomsday Arcade for a decent explanation, never thought I would use that as a source of information...
 

Jamash

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meepop said:
TheNamlessGuy said:
tomtom94 said:
The egg.
Because chickens probably evolved from a different species of bird.
Exactly.

We've had the answer to this question for years.
Why bother?
Easy: Something had to INCUBATE said egg, unless it just incubated itself
You mean incubated itself in the same way some species or birds and reptiles incubate their eggs by burying them in the warm earth, sand or other materials?

Not every egg laying species incubates their eggs with body heat.

The way I see it, birds most probably evolved from reptiles, and reptiles laid eggs.

The egg came before the chicken, however that egg wasn't necessarily a chicken egg.
 

Zannah

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Dinosaurs were around before chickens.
Dinosaurs layed eggs.
Problem solved.
 

Dexiro

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Whichever species created the first chicken would have laid it as an egg.