Poll: Which country has had the most negative effect on the world?

[Fbuh]

This is a tricky subject. When I analyzed the choice countries/continents, I was thinking about the positive effects they have had. Out of all the choices, I had to go with Africa. I am not racist or anything, but it has really only ever been a hotbed for war and death. The only things that I can think of that benefited the world in Africa are Ancient Egyptian technologies and my old Geography professor, who was from Ghana.

If you really think about it, all of the other countries have done terrible and horrible things like genocide, ethnocide, and general world rape, but have contributed more than they have diminished. While Nazi Germany did commit horrific acts, sciences during that time were progressed rapidly, including medical sciences that were advanced through Nazi experimentation. Now, just so that there is no confusion, I am extremely anti-Nazi and hate the fact that they put a terrible blight on the names of all German descending peoples. There are some ways to do things, but genocide and ethnocide are not them.

 

[Xazetuf]

Germany,Britain and the States are the big culprits historically anyway. Russia does not have a lot to be proud of.
A generalisation would be any country that developed nuclear weapons and developed an army of invasion capability.

 

[Dynex811]

I'd say America simply because while other countries do all these horrible things, at least they own up to it. America seems to think its doing people a favour by invading and destabilising their country. They still have this image that there the great hero who saves the day. If they were more realistic, like say Russia or Germany then I wouldn't mind so much.

1) You do know America formally apologized for the internment of the Japanese right? And for the overthrow of Hawaii? States have even apologized for slavery. But when Japan doesn't apologize for their use of forced prostitution on Korean woman or the Rape on Nanjing it is alright? Is Turkey owning up to it when they refuse to acknowledge the Armenian genocide? How about Russia when Stalin let millions starve in Ukraine? The US still has to acknowledge and apologize for some things, I agree, but you cannot be so naive to believe that other countries have apologized for their wrong doings. Also, just because Germany apologized for the Holocaust, does not mean that it is okay they did it.

2) Would you have preferred if both Turkey and Greece had successful communist revolutions? Without the United States "policing" that's what would have happened. The U.S. also went into Somalia during their Civil War and provided humanitarian aide to it's citizens. Yes of course the US has destabilized regions, but they have also done good by intervening.

 

[JodaSFU]

The papal estates.

 

[Xazetuf]

Austria is more evil than Satan.

Not that all people from austria are evil. I'm just making a judgement based on a correlation.

OK well the shit has just hit the fan on this thread.

 

[DrScoobs]

all countries are equally responsible for each other.

 

[Combined]

Russia, of course. Worst nation ever to exist on the planet. Closely followed by the Poles and a load of others.

 

[Danny Ocean]

I believe that it was both America and Britain who gave Israel to the Jews because of guilt about the Holocaust. Hmm I wonder which major countries rich Jews are funding the Israelites against Palestine?

Unless I'm very much mistaken, which could easily be the case, Britain "owned" the land now known as Israel and gave it to them in response to the Zionist movement gaining so much support after the Holocaust.

I don't think anyone here knows enough from every single point of view to make an accurate judgement on this. If they did they would be the greatest historian who ever lived.

On Israel: I'm sure there's more to it than that. Britain was (and still is) broke after the wars, maybe a large sum of money persuaded us? It's feasible, right?

On Britain: The empire was that bad? Really? It always seemed to me that these countries all went to shit after we left. Don't forget the infrastructure built by the Empire, the technologies and cultures exported and imported. It really was a great coming together if you think about it, and all the countries involved benefited from it quite well, hence the commonwealth. Sure, we were rough-and-tumble, but we were no worse than America is now on the imperialism front. Which is surprising considering the size of the Empire at the time. Although I suppose everything is relative.

I Voted America: Not because of the wars of lack therof, not because I dislike Americans, not because of all this money crap, but because of the culture. It seems to sicken just as many Americans as it does foreigners. Cult of celebrity, laissez-faire, gangs, fast food, and all that crap.
There are many good, hard working, worldly-wise, honest Americans, and there are a great many on these forums, there are just a few retards who steal the limelight and make their country look bad. Like British chavs or tyrants, the Russian mobsters, French layabouts, Italian chauvinists, or just about everyone not working-class in the East.
Regular people are the same everywhere.

Overall: I think that- at the risk of sounding arrogant- Britain has had the biggest Impact on the world, simply by joining the various continents under one banner, one way of thinking, one language, and spreading their advances around the world during the time of Empire.

 

[Daveman]

Yes of course the US has destabilized regions, but they have also done good by intervening.

Yeah, but in most cases it turned out for the worse, like the vietnam war destabilised that entire region like cambodia and laos as well as vietnam which on the whole was better off with communism. Also I prefer to mention mccarthyism when I talk about america being evil as it persecuted its own people for absolutely nothing and the whole country went along with it.

I love shit like the milgram experiment...

 

[Weaver]

Isreal?

 

[British Fiasco]

The U.K.O.G.B.A.N.I.

Because we invented bad stuff thats caused the world so much pain, like... THE TRAIN

OMG |!

 

[Dynex811]

On Britain: The empire was that bad? Really? It always seemed to me that these countries all went to shit after we left. Don't forget the infrastructure built by the Empire, the technologies and cultures exported and imported. It really was a great coming together if you think about it, and all the countries involved benefited from it quite well, hence the commonwealth. Sure, we were rough-and-tumble, but we were no worse than America is now on the imperialism front. Which is surprising considering the size of the Empire at the time. Although I suppose everything is relative.

They went to shit because you didn't adequately prepare your colonies for freedom. You kind of just up and left. And I would think twice before saying you're no worse than America on the imperialism front. The French were worse, but I think you need to recognize that Britain was very harsh on their colonial subjects.

Yes of course the US has destabilized regions, but they have also done good by intervening.

Yeah, but in most cases it turned out for the worse, like the vietnam war destabilised that entire region like cambodia and laos as well as vietnam which on the whole was better off with communism. Also I prefer to mention mccarthyism when I talk about america being evil as it persecuted its own people for absolutely nothing and the whole country went along with it.

I love shit like the milgram experiment...

Agreed. I think intervention in Cambodia was one of the worst things America has done.

 

[Lord George]

I'd say America simply because while other countries do all these horrible things, at least they own up to it. America seems to think its doing people a favour by invading and destabilising their country. They still have this image that there the great hero who saves the day. If they were more realistic, like say Russia or Germany then I wouldn't mind so much.

1) You do know America formally apologized for the internment of the Japanese right? And for the overthrow of Hawaii? States have even apologized for slavery. But when Japan doesn't apologize for their use of forced prostitution on Korean woman or the Rape on Nanjing it is alright? Is Turkey owning up to it when they refuse to acknowledge the Armenian genocide? How about Russia when Stalin let millions starve in Ukraine? The US still has to acknowledge and apologize for some things, I agree, but you cannot be so naive to believe that other countries have apologized for their wrong doings. Also, just because Germany apologized for the Holocaust, does not mean that it is okay they did it.

2) Would you have preferred if both Turkey and Greece had successful communist revolutions? Without the United States "policing" that's what would have happened. The U.S. also went into Somalia during their Civil War and provided humanitarian aide to it's citizens. Yes of course the US has destabilized regions, but they have also done good by intervening.

Ok so I'll agree with your first point though, though I still think Americans have this whole attitude that there always the good guys.

But the second point is ridiculous, its none of your business if either Turkey or Greece chose to become communist countries, the US should stick to there part of the world. And what exactly is the US's deal with communism, they seem to think its some form of ultimate evil that will eat there children, I mean what exactly terrify's Americans so much about communism is it the fear of sharing with each other, of all working together. Its not the best system but its by not far the worst. I honestly though this irrational fear of "reds under the bed" had disappeared nowadays.

 

[Danny Ocean]

They went to shit because you didn't adequately prepare your colonies for freedom. You kind of just up and left.

Leaving behind solid, proven infrastructure and governmental and social systems that really only needed the leaders replaced. That's what happened. They elected bad leaders, if elected is the right word, and they took their countries down with them.

And I would think twice before saying you're no worse than America on the imperialism front. The French were worse, but I think you need to recognize that Britain was very harsh on their colonial subjects.

That's not Imperialism, that's just violence. Everyone did that, lots of places still do. Imperialism is believing you can manipulate or control other countries simply by demonstrating the power of your own. Britain did it a lot during the time of Empire, but there were instances where they wouldn't out of respect, obligations, or profit (Why enact Imperialism when they want to join you anyway?). It was the done thing at the time, too.
America does it now despite most people believing the modern world to be above that, and it makes America look like a bully because it only tends to manipulate small countries who can't fight back anyway. That is why the world dislikes America. If they were directly invading any country tied to Europe it would be another story. Those attempts at expansion would've been quashed instantly from without and within. The fact that it appears to most people that America is picking on backwards states under the guise of democracy is what leads to the America-hate.

Why does everyone say you and your. It's not me, it never was me, I didn't even exist. Please try and refer to them in the third person, it reduces the chance of personal insult.

 

[ZeroAX]

imo scrap this thread and make a new one about the people who fucked up the world the most (hitler, stalin ect. ect.). Though it's a bit hard to judge since the victor is the one who writes history. had germany won the war we'd be here talking about our good benefactors the nazis who cleared the jews from the earth. Just look at my native americans - cowboys post on the previous page

 

[Moriarty]

negative effekt? i'd say collonialism in general is to blame for the greatest problems of our time, namely the living standarts in some of the poorer states of our world. you just can't blame it on a single country

 

[Crimson King]

France, its yearly output of french people into existance is unacceptable!

 

[GaM Pancho]

I have a small feeling North Korea should be on that list