Poll: Which is better: Fallout 3 or Oblivion? Back up your argument.

[Bigeyez]

Oblivion, I can't stand the Fallout 3 "radiation caused all this beneficial mutation" crap. In reality, everything would get DNA damage and die.

WTF are you talking about? Everything exposed to radiation in Fallout 3 is FUBAR...besides just straight killing people it turned them into either a)mutants dumb as a ton of bricks or b)a ghoul who's skin is rotting off of its body.

In fact the whole damn storyline of Fallout 3 is purifying water around DC of radiation.

Anyways I had much, much more fun with Fallout then i ever did with Oblivion. Really consider Oblivion to be pretty over rated actually.

 

[Yooz]

Oblivion:
*I like the settings, luscious tree's, beautiful lakes, lovely countries.
*I prefer the spells to weapons.
*Horse armour

 

[ShiningOmega]

My problem with Oblivion is that I wonder out into the wilderness and say. "Right. What now." Do a few things and get bored. If I pick up an exciting quest line [eg the dark brotherhood] then ill play it through, and then get bored again. I think the problem is that it tries to be too free form. I often found myself thinking "Well I'm head of just about everything... Why do I want to jump into oblivion and fight things?" and I also dislike the landscape of oblivion. I think the whole game hinged on wanting to jump through and batter the demons at their home. And it failed. I found myself avoiding portals, at all costs. The odd time I did jump through [usually quest related] I found myself saying "Well lets just get this over with so I can get back to something fun."

I have found that much less with Fallout 3.

I am yet to complete the main quest in either of them, both got to the bit where the encourage you to go explore before continuing the main quest, and Im enjoying fallout much more. I have reasons I want to do things. I have half a dozen quests on the go, and rarely find myself questioning my motives. I think the world sucked me in more. And thats what counts.

I liked the fact you could almost literally get lost in Oblivion and be doing nothing but exploring. But I agree that those portals SUCKED. I hated them. They were the most depressing things ever. It's like, why would I want to go to hell?

I would also agree with you that Fallout 3 is a much more focused game (although you can still have a great time exploring for utterly no reason), but by the same token, I feel it lacks the same depth that Oblivion has. Nonetheless, Fallout's still great.

Wow, I'm shocked at how fast this post filled up! That's the whole purpose of a true sandbox game, to be freeform. If there is so much to do that your lost, then it's doing it's job right!

As for the Oblivion Gates, that also means they're doing their job right. You shouldn't want to go near them: they're gates to HELL! And closing them is properly rewarded: you get a sigil stone, a bunch of rare alchemy ingredients, and if your lucky, several sets of Daedric armor and warhammers.

 

[Zblade495]

Hard to decide since Fallout 3 and Oblivion run on the same engines, only Fallout has it's more refined. For instance, the generally well known cons of oblivion where fixed in Fallout 3(like everybody sounding the same etc). But in the end I'd go for Oblivion (Even though I never play it anymore) since I was already a fan of the Elder Scrolls from the start and it was the sequel to one of the best games I ever played. I never was a fallout fan until Bethesda's Fallout 3 came to be honest. Plus, just about everything I like about Fallout(except for the setting) comes from oblivion.

 

[Bigeyez]

Well Oblivion was kinda buggy and i hate them lizard and lion people but i really disliked Fallout 3 setting and the huge amounts of pro american patriotism,like the game was for the US only. Also i dont like the way they mixed the culture of the cold war to make us relate and empathyse with the game but again it only works if your american or into that stuff. Also V.A.T.S was bad but the overall gameplay was nice the story rewarding and cool and Malcolm Mcdowel propaganda just made me keep going till the end. Also radiation turns people to corpses rather than super mutants which i also hated. I prefer Oblivion cause its a fantasy setting where anything is plausible,im a big fan of western fantasy rpg's and i love sword fighting and magic. Also the game had a better story and was overly cooler and more attractive for a diverse audience. And also Fallout copyes a lot from Oblivion gameplay

So what other culture would you propose they have in the game other than overt american patriotism?

I will agree that sometimes the late 50's theme was sort of weird, but at the same time, it added a nice notion because of the game's somewhat depressing elements. It's like a bit of comic relief.

If they made a fallout: London, I think you'd find the same thing, only it would probably be modeled after the British resiliance in the Battle of London in World War II. In which case, I would find the plots and culture provocative, not hindering. It's just the setting. It's not the game's fault, or even the developers, it simply makes sense, in my opinion. So, as asked, what alternative would you propose?

Another WTF are you people talking about

1)Pro American? The main enemy in the game is the remenants of the U.S. Gov't. Real pro-American right there, oh yeah.

2)The game is set in the far future. The only reason the game has music from the 50's (storywise anyways) is because Three-dog likes that particular music and thats what he had around.

3)Cold War? Where do you hear or see anything about Russia in the game? The communists it talks about are the Chinese...who in the Fallout universe invaded Alaska.

 

[SomeBritishDude]

Oblivion, I can't stand the Fallout 3 "radiation caused all this beneficial mutation" crap. In reality, everything would get DNA damage and die.

I agree that if the bombs ever do fall there's going to be no super mutants, rotting zombies or irradiated landscape to trudge though. Chances are we'll all be dead.

That being said, it's mind boggerling that your comparing Fallouts bizarre universe to the unquestionable scientific reality that is Oblivion.

i really disliked Fallout 3 setting and the huge amounts of pro american patriotism,like the game was for the US only.

Honestly I found this fitted into the whole 1950s aspects of the game. American patriotism is actually something I find quite interesting, mostly because of how bizarre it is when I compare to my own feelings and my British friends to our country.

 

[Tears of Blood]

I just think the atmosphere in Fallout 3 is over-the-top and completely amazing. Better in every way to that of the medieval style that comes with Oblivion. It's just too common for me.

Fallout 3 however just dripped with aesthetics. Grime, filth, and was the better experience even if the gameplay wasn't as good as Oblivions. (Though, I though they were both equal in gameplay.)

Furthermore, the story in Fallout 3 was very well written and intuitive, while the story in Oblivion was just sort of bland, I thought. Didn't pull on my heart strings nearly as much as Fallout 3's did.

 

[Gerazzi]

._.
Fallout 3 is better simply because it is more unique.
I don't like the 1920's feel to it.
>< I hate that so much.

 

[ShiningOmega]

Well Oblivion was kinda buggy and i hate them lizard and lion people but i really disliked Fallout 3 setting and the huge amounts of pro american patriotism,like the game was for the US only. Also i dont like the way they mixed the culture of the cold war to make us relate and empathyse with the game but again it only works if your american or into that stuff. Also V.A.T.S was bad but the overall gameplay was nice the story rewarding and cool and Malcolm Mcdowel propaganda just made me keep going till the end. Also radiation turns people to corpses rather than super mutants which i also hated. I prefer Oblivion cause its a fantasy setting where anything is plausible,im a big fan of western fantasy rpg's and i love sword fighting and magic. Also the game had a better story and was overly cooler and more attractive for a diverse audience. And also Fallout copyes a lot from Oblivion gameplay

So what other culture would you propose they have in the game other than overt american patriotism?

I will agree that sometimes the late 50's theme was sort of weird, but at the same time, it added a nice notion because of the game's somewhat depressing elements. It's like a bit of comic relief.

If they made a fallout: London, I think you'd find the same thing, only it would probably be modeled after the British resiliance in the Battle of London in World War II. In which case, I would find the plots and culture provocative, not hindering. It's just the setting. It's not the game's fault, or even the developers, it simply makes sense, in my opinion. So, as asked, what alternative would you propose?

Another WTF are you people talking about

1)Pro American? The main enemy in the game is the remenants of the U.S. Gov't. Real pro-American right there, oh yeah.

2)The game is set in the far future. The only reason the game has music from the 50's (storywise anyways) is because Three-dog likes that particular music and thats what he had around.

3)Cold War? Where do you hear or see anything about Russia in the game? The communists it talks about are the Chinese...who in the Fallout universe invaded Alaska.

1. It's more Pro-American in the sense that we are a nation of strong individuals. We know how to support and govern ourselves and that (in the Fallout Universe) has saved our country from total annihilation. The government are the bad guys because, as Eden constantly reminds everyone, it wants everyone to just kick back and wait for them to come and save them all.

I agree with you about the other stuff though...

 

[Zayren]

Oblivion for me, but don't get me wrong, I adore both. I was actually playing Point Lookout the other day, which made me start a new Oblivion character. I don't really know why, it probably has something to do with the "usage" leveling of Oblivion.

Oh, and to the guy who said radiation kills you. Fallout isn't based on science, but rather on SCIENCE! (And Super Mutants aren't made from radiation, but from the FEV. And if you get too irradiated, as the player character, you DO die, only some people survived as ghouls.)

 

[Bigeyez]

Well Oblivion was kinda buggy and i hate them lizard and lion people but i really disliked Fallout 3 setting and the huge amounts of pro american patriotism,like the game was for the US only. Also i dont like the way they mixed the culture of the cold war to make us relate and empathyse with the game but again it only works if your american or into that stuff. Also V.A.T.S was bad but the overall gameplay was nice the story rewarding and cool and Malcolm Mcdowel propaganda just made me keep going till the end. Also radiation turns people to corpses rather than super mutants which i also hated. I prefer Oblivion cause its a fantasy setting where anything is plausible,im a big fan of western fantasy rpg's and i love sword fighting and magic. Also the game had a better story and was overly cooler and more attractive for a diverse audience. And also Fallout copyes a lot from Oblivion gameplay

So what other culture would you propose they have in the game other than overt american patriotism?

I will agree that sometimes the late 50's theme was sort of weird, but at the same time, it added a nice notion because of the game's somewhat depressing elements. It's like a bit of comic relief.

If they made a fallout: London, I think you'd find the same thing, only it would probably be modeled after the British resiliance in the Battle of London in World War II. In which case, I would find the plots and culture provocative, not hindering. It's just the setting. It's not the game's fault, or even the developers, it simply makes sense, in my opinion. So, as asked, what alternative would you propose?

Another WTF are you people talking about

1)Pro American? The main enemy in the game is the remenants of the U.S. Gov't. Real pro-American right there, oh yeah.

2)The game is set in the far future. The only reason the game has music from the 50's (storywise anyways) is because Three-dog likes that particular music and thats what he had around.

3)Cold War? Where do you hear or see anything about Russia in the game? The communists it talks about are the Chinese...who in the Fallout universe invaded Alaska.

1. It's more Pro-American in the sense that we are a nation of strong individuals. We know how to support and govern ourselves and that (in the Fallout Universe) has saved our country from total annihilation. The government are the bad guys because, as Eden constantly reminds everyone, it wants everyone to just kick back and wait for them to come and save them all.

I agree with you about the other stuff though...

When you paint it like that then yes i guess i can see where your coming from...seems like a bit of a stretch but i guess it can be interpreted like that.

 

[Grayl]

Oblivion. Longer game and more mods to keep it going.

200+ hours (one character) and 6GB of mods and counting!

 

[SomeBritishDude]

2)The game is set in the far future. The only reason the game has music from the 50's (storywise anyways) is because Three-dog likes that particular music and thats what he had around.

Err...No.

Fallout 3 is not our future. Remember how in the 1950's everyone used to believe we'd all be driving around in flying cars and have robot butlers and it'd be the perfect world. Well, Fallout is pretty much that, all the awesome stuff of the future with 1950s sensabilitys. That's why they are lazer guns, yet discs haven't been invented. Why people had bizarre flying vehicals, but somehow tvs where still in black & white and computers look so old fashioned ect.

Fallout is the perfect 1950s future with nuclear bombs dropped on top.

 

[Bigeyez]

2)The game is set in the far future. The only reason the game has music from the 50's (storywise anyways) is because Three-dog likes that particular music and thats what he had around.

Err...No.

Fallout 3 is not our future. Remember how in the 1950's everyone used to believe we'd all be driving around in flying cars and have robot butlers and it'd be the perfect world. Well, Fallout is pretty much that, all the awesome stuff of the future with 1950s sensabilitys. That's why they are lazer guns, yet discs haven't been invented. Why people had bizarre flying vehicals, but somehow tvs where still in black & white and computers look so old fashioned ect.

Fallout is the perfect 1950s future with nuclear bombs dropped on top.

Fallout 3 takes place in the year 2227, 200 years after what is called the Great War. So yes Fallout 3 takes place in the future. Go look it up if you don't believe me. =)

To quote the fallout 3 website

"When does Fallout 3 take place?
In 2277, 200 years after the bombs fell and 30 years after Fallout 2 took place."

 

[Irridium]

At the moment its Oblivion, for the sole reason that there are more and better mods for it.

But soon Fallout 3 will have more and better mods and they will be equal.

 

[SomeBritishDude]

2)The game is set in the far future. The only reason the game has music from the 50's (storywise anyways) is because Three-dog likes that particular music and thats what he had around.

Err...No.

Fallout 3 is not our future. Remember how in the 1950's everyone used to believe we'd all be driving around in flying cars and have robot butlers and it'd be the perfect world. Well, Fallout is pretty much that, all the awesome stuff of the future with 1950s sensabilitys. That's why they are lazer guns, yet discs haven't been invented. Why people had bizarre flying vehicals, but somehow tvs where still in black & white and computers look so old fashioned ect.

Fallout is the perfect 1950s future with nuclear bombs dropped on top.

Fallout 3 takes place in the year 2227, 200 years after what is called the Great War. So yes Fallout 3 takes place in the future. Go look it up if you don't believe me. =)

I know Fallout 3 takes place in the future. But it's not our future. Everything from 1950 to 2077 was different from whats happened in our time line.

 

[G1eet]

If Oblivion was a person I would lick their face... regardless of gender, thats how good it is.

As odd as it was to read that, I have to agree with you there.

 

[Bigeyez]

2)The game is set in the far future. The only reason the game has music from the 50's (storywise anyways) is because Three-dog likes that particular music and thats what he had around.

Err...No.

Fallout 3 is not our future. Remember how in the 1950's everyone used to believe we'd all be driving around in flying cars and have robot butlers and it'd be the perfect world. Well, Fallout is pretty much that, all the awesome stuff of the future with 1950s sensabilitys. That's why they are lazer guns, yet discs haven't been invented. Why people had bizarre flying vehicals, but somehow tvs where still in black & white and computers look so old fashioned ect.

Fallout is the perfect 1950s future with nuclear bombs dropped on top.

Fallout 3 takes place in the year 2227, 200 years after what is called the Great War. So yes Fallout 3 takes place in the future. Go look it up if you don't believe me. =)

I know Fallout 3 takes place in the future. But it's not our future. Everything from 1950 to 2077 was different from whats happened in our time line.

Ah then we simply misunderstood each other. =p You are right.

 

[Julianking93]

Oblivion had much more to do.

The OP basically said everything I was going to. The only problem I had with Fallout 3 though was that I really couldn't play it for more than about 15 minutes without getting depressed, but I got over it.