I think we should have a poll on the best Studio Ghibli Film (there probably is one I cant be bothered to check). They all vary in animation, storytelling, cinematography, character development etc. It would be interesting.bartholen said:It is by no means the first film. After watching Ponyo I instanty fell in love with the films, and have watched all the most important ones, i.e. Mononoke, Totoro, Nausicaä, Laputa and so on. I'm goin to stay away from Grave of the Fireflies for now, because I fear that film would make me want to stab my liver and cry my soul out.
Why compare them? Because I wanted to see if other people also had a hard time deciding which one to like more, that's why. It's nice to see opinions so evenly divided. I'm not trying to make some be-all end-all statement, just making a discussion.Vigormortis said:I'm noticing many of those picking Spirited Away are doing so not necessarily because it is actually the "superior" film (pointless assertion), but rather because they either:
A: like anime or hand-drawn animation more than CG animation
B: prefer stand-alone films over trilogies
Likewise, many are choosing Toy Story 3 because of their emotional attachment to the series. Many of them having grown up with the series.
There's nothing wrong with any of those reasons, of course. It's just an observation.
As for me? Well, I loved both films thoroughly. Choosing which is "objectively better" is pointless. They're both master-works of extremely talented people. They are also, beyond being animated, completely different; on many levels.
However, if I have to choose, I'm going with Toy Story 3. But only by a very, very small margin.
The animation, art-direction, stories, character designs, and voice-acting of both films were immaculate. However, I just felt that Toy Story 3 told it's story in a slightly more enjoyable, more impactful way.
For example, in the scene wherein Woody and the others were slowly sinking into the furnace, struggling to survive, I knew they'd somehow get out. However, when they suddenly, solemnly, began accepting their fate and all held hands, I actually began to think, "Is...is Pixar actually going to go through with it? Are they actually going to let them die? That's pretty ballsy."
Granted, they obviously didn't, but it was a moment of real tension. A moment in the film that actually made me nervous for the characters. A moment that pulled me in and had my mind considering many possible scenarios.
Spirited Away had similar moments, but none quite as impactful as that or similar moments in Toy Story 3. At least, for me anyway.
Still, why compare them? They're both amazing animated films. Films that show animation is just as capable of telling compelling stories as any "serious", live-action film. Debating which is "better" just demeans them both.
I was raised by neither of these movies. I was only 3 when the first Toy Story came out, so it was never "the" franchise for me, and Spirited Away was one of those "weird" films I never figured out as a kid. I grew up more on traditional, hand-drawn Disney animation i.e. Aladdin, Hercules, The Lion King etc. Btw, I still think the 90s were Disney's golden age, and Hercules is still one of their best and funniest movies.bl4ckh4wk64 said:Well, I'm going to say that without a doubt it depends on when the first time you saw either movie was. If you saw Spirited Away when you were a kid, you got treated to an amazing movie, and you're now adding nostalgia into the factor. If you saw Toy Story as a kid you were treated to a pretty good movie that received massive hype and you're still running with the nostalgia.
In my opinion, Spirited Away showed what people could do with a budget and a great imagination. I mean, it cost 1/10[sup]th[/sup] of the price it cost to make Toy Story 3. However, the smaller budget didn't detract from the quality of the movie in any way and it's still one of my most favorite movies of all time.
But yeah, a large portion of this is really just "what movie were you raised on as a child?"