Its FPS/RPG hybrid. its an immersive sim that follow the footstep of old looking glass studio games.Zhukov said:
Poll: Which is more deserve to be Called System shock Spritual successor? Prey or Bioshock?
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If you count them, he says it 6 or 7 times before the reveal, depending on if you muck about in one particular section. Then there's the note on the birthday gift at the beginning. Considering the sheer amount of dialogue by Atlas, it is not said all that often and most of his requests aimed at Jack don't actually invoke it. If you know about it going in you'll notice, but if you don't you'll have to be psychic or incredibly paranoid to figure that something's up with Atlas occasional use of a courtesy phrase.MysticSlayer said:
Yeah, I know what is. I've played it.B-Cell said:
The problem is that the FPS half of that equation is crap (shooting dull bullet-sponge enemies) while the RPG half is average and unremarkable stuff.
Saying it's an "immersive sim" is utterly meaningless. "Immersive" is something of an empty buzzword and is completely subjective, that which one person finds immersive another will not. "Sim" is short for "simulation", as in a game that seeks to accurately simulate a real scenario. Calling Prey a "sim" is ridiculous. It's a game in which you can use alien-derived drugs to transform into a roll of toilet paper. It's a fantasy, the exact opposite of a simulation.
while i agree about shitty combat and enemies. this is real drawback. im not a fan of fighting ink spots however the game in general is very well made. it did capture the spirit of system shock 2 unlike compare to bioshock.Zhukov said:
like i said. just like bioshock, prey is still nowhere near system shock 2. i guess it will be system shock reboot and 3.
Warren spector is lead developer of System shock 3 with entire looking glass members. if Prey capture SS2 wibe very well. imagine how System shock 3 will be.Quellist said:
Shodan is also one of the best character ever and obvously best female character in video gaming history by very large margin.
You do realize that "spiritual successor" isn't a single title right? Just like thousands of movies have been inspired by the classic tales, so too can video games be inspired, and seek to emulate their source material.B-Cell said:
Spiritual successor doesn't need to be limited to just one title or franchise. While BioSHOCK is the obvious answer, both take many of the elements from System Shock (2) that made it special but give us new settings and stories. Deus Ex is similarly an example of a Shock-like franchise and spiritual successor that has many of the same elements that made the originals so great.
I'll tell you my personal criteria for a true System Shock (2) "spiritual successor" which is the only measure I use. Does it have the code "451" in it somewhere? If it has 451 in the game somewhere (DE:HR Sarif's lift, DE:MD first keypad, Dishonored gallery safe, etc, etc), then it is. If the code 451 does not appear, then it is not.
I love this easter egg that the original Looking Glass crew still do, I absolutely love seeing it appear in new games and it to me, more than any marketing or even mechanic, shows that little link back to where it began.
I'll tell you my personal criteria for a true System Shock (2) "spiritual successor" which is the only measure I use. Does it have the code "451" in it somewhere? If it has 451 in the game somewhere (DE:HR Sarif's lift, DE:MD first keypad, Dishonored gallery safe, etc, etc), then it is. If the code 451 does not appear, then it is not.
I love this easter egg that the original Looking Glass crew still do, I absolutely love seeing it appear in new games and it to me, more than any marketing or even mechanic, shows that little link back to where it began.
Also the spelling.Hawki said:
You see, though, that's exactly what you always say when pressed for an explanation. "Its immersive sim in style of old school FPS like Doom and System Shock 2." This doesn't actually mean anything. The fact that a game released in 2017 is designed vaguely like a game from 1997 is not a statement of value. Just like calling games like Bioshock "linear and scripted" does not automatically convey negativity. A game can be both heavily scripted and totally awesome. And a game can both follow the footsteps of the greats and be absolute garbage.B-Cell said:
It's also like Carpenter's "The Thing", but those are movies it 'borrowed' from. I had video games inspirations on my mind. And yes, Dead Space also falls into that cathegory. You won't have a difficult time finding an article or review comparing it to System Shock. Because every game that is set on abandoned space station is like System Shock.RaikuFA said:
Though for me it was more like Resident Evil in space.
PS. Oh wow, and this article's sole title feels like someone reading in my mind. https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-dead-space-series-could-have-been-system-shock/1100-6447056/
I dunno, even Ryan sorta lacks existence outside of what are essentially just cutscenes. I like that you get to sorta semi-explore what is basically a broken pile of dreams, but I feel you get more connected to the audio logs than you do any living character in the game. And the gameplay as you get further into is just sorta gets boring. Even on the higher difficulty, it's freeze/flame, shoot till the effect wears off, repeat. There's not a huge amount of depth, and I don't think it's aged well because I remember having difficulty differentiating enemies from background at some points(And not the Spiders, that's sorta supposed to be a part of their schtick).Hawki said:
What I've seen of Prey has alot of ways to get through the game and depending on what you pick as your build, actually has consequences and events that happen as you go through you wouldn't see as another build. Which I am always up for in a game that has numbers.
This! this so very much. Bioshock was a fantastic game, in fact it was probably a lot better than System Shock 2 (I did not suddenly find myself unable to progress and have to restart Bioshock halfway through like I did SS) but they were both very different games.pookie101 said:
Bioshock was an FPS with some body horror. System Shock 2 was a stealth/horror/RPG/FPS with adventure game elements. I've never played Prey but it seems to convey the isolation that SS2 did in a way that Bioshock did not.
Hmm, the term 'spiritual successor' appears much much looser than I'd first imagined. Going with the flow, because goddamn it, this may be the only ride I can wave lately; Dark Souls is my favourite spiritual successor to Zelda. And Darksiders 2 is my favourite SS to Legacy of Kain. And Helldivers is my fave SS to Starship Troopers (the first film of course). Annnnd Pacman championship edition is my fave SS to that time I took a cocktail of mind alterents and couldn't pee for half an hour so stood staring at a wall of various moving colourful lines as I waited for the body to catch up relieving itself.
As for the original question...ehh, never heard of the game. Couldn't say for sure.
As for the original question...ehh, never heard of the game. Couldn't say for sure.
To be fair, the Darksiders games are this to Legacy of Kain as a whole. Armake21 made this comparison when Darksiders 1 first came out.Xsjadoblayde said:
I don't if I'd call SS2 stealth. More like run past enemies similar to Dark Souls.jademunky said:
I also think that Bioshock had more horror. Maybe it's just Sande Cohen. Or the plastic surgeon. Maybe it was people you actually met that were doing cruel things, not a warped monstrosity. That's always more effective on me.
I've never been more bored with a video game than with System Shock 2.
I can respect what it's trying to do, but it's a snorefest of a game.
And while I like Bioshock, I don't hold it that much higher in my mind than SS2.
And with my time in Prey, I can say, I feel the same. It starts out pretty good with its setup and atmosphere, and then gives you an underwhelming array of weapons, and even more underwhelming enemies.
You can knock the Bioshock series all you want for being "linear" and "scripted" (as if that's supposed to be against the game? Linear games aren't instantly bad), but at least it tried to have interesting combat AND a great atmosphere.
I can respect what it's trying to do, but it's a snorefest of a game.
And while I like Bioshock, I don't hold it that much higher in my mind than SS2.
And with my time in Prey, I can say, I feel the same. It starts out pretty good with its setup and atmosphere, and then gives you an underwhelming array of weapons, and even more underwhelming enemies.
You can knock the Bioshock series all you want for being "linear" and "scripted" (as if that's supposed to be against the game? Linear games aren't instantly bad), but at least it tried to have interesting combat AND a great atmosphere.