As hard a pill as it is to swallow, the death penalty is a better option than life in prison, because then people don't need to pay taxes to feed and house them for the rest of their lives.Father Time said:
Poll: Which is worse: Rape or Murder?
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depends on how bad the death because rape will be with your whole life there in the back of your mind but with murder atleast when you die you either go to heaven or there is no god and there is nothingness so no harm done really.(note I refuse to believe in a world where both heaven and hell could exist)
You forget that there are some crime bosses who are so influential that they will never even be arrested, much less convicted, which is more what I was talking about.Father Time said:
I never said that it excuses murder. It does, however, provide a justification. Not necessarily a good one, but a justification nonetheless, which is more than could be said of rape.Father Time said:
What makes the death penalty any different from murdering a murderer? Sure it's state action rather than vigilantism, but you get the same end result.Father Time said:
Well, that would depend on whether or not you believe rape to be more evil than murder (hence this entire debate) . If rape is more evil, the eye-for-an-eye principle wouldn't apply, as you'd be inflicting a punishment greater than the crime. Murdering a murderer, on the other hand, does conform to that idea, as he/she killed someone and then someone killed him/her.Father Time said:
The law is a fickle beast, subject to change on a whim. I should also point out that as a great videogame character once said: "The world isn't run by the laws written on paper. It's run by people; some according to laws, others not." Are you saying that a revenge murder is never okay, even when the legal mechanisms for punishment have failed entirely? OJ Simpson got lucky, he was guilty as sin and he got off. I was actually surprised that he didn't turn up dead within a few months. When the law fails, what would you recommend?Father Time said:
I have no experience of either, however I will say that just to hear of someone dying is bad enough, when one of my friends (wasn't even a amazingly close friend) got killed in a car crash (which I know isn't murder), I think even the feeling that gave me was more than any rape could do even if it happened to myself.
In my mind it's no question to me, a dead friend or a dead me has no solution, you have atleast a chance to turn the clock back on a rape, death however is very final.
In my mind it's no question to me, a dead friend or a dead me has no solution, you have atleast a chance to turn the clock back on a rape, death however is very final.
I have to say rape without a doubt. Having dealt with a couple rape victims first hand there's no way that I'd be able to consider murder worse. When someone is dead, they're dead and not suffering. When someone is raped their life takes a turn for the worse at some point.
Some victims will repress it and have it unleashed later, some will be a mess for the rest of their lives. More often than not I should imagine victims would wish they were dead anyway. Rape can do so many things to a person. Women can be thrust into unwanted pregnancy; damaged or hurt during the act and are left to live with the event forever (I don't think it's easily forgotten). But not just female victims, any victims have been stripped of their dignity and it can be a bit of a relationship killer. Oh and then it can happen again. In an abusive, no escape 'relationship' a person could be repeatedly raped.
Rape is the kind of crime that leaves a big psychological, emotional and sometimes physical scar on a victim. They will remember it forever. Personally murder seems like a much lighter alternative in comparison.
Some victims will repress it and have it unleashed later, some will be a mess for the rest of their lives. More often than not I should imagine victims would wish they were dead anyway. Rape can do so many things to a person. Women can be thrust into unwanted pregnancy; damaged or hurt during the act and are left to live with the event forever (I don't think it's easily forgotten). But not just female victims, any victims have been stripped of their dignity and it can be a bit of a relationship killer. Oh and then it can happen again. In an abusive, no escape 'relationship' a person could be repeatedly raped.
Rape is the kind of crime that leaves a big psychological, emotional and sometimes physical scar on a victim. They will remember it forever. Personally murder seems like a much lighter alternative in comparison.
Found an interesting video: http://academicearth.org/lectures/morality-of-muder-and-cannibalism
It's a lecture given by a professor at Harvard to do with the morality of murder.
It's a lecture given by a professor at Harvard to do with the morality of murder.
Rape. Such as (But not exactly what) Kolosus said, A murder can have a plausible reason for it. Otherwise, The Punisher would be no better than those he punishes. But rape has no reason. I'd rather see my parents watch my trial for murder, than to see myself in trial for rape.