Even when it's really, really bad rape can potentially be recovered from. Murder is impossible to recover from unless you have a really infuential parent in the deity business (in theory).
Poll: Which is worse: Rape or Murder?
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There murder/taking a life can have just cause behind it like police etc
Rape is never justified ever.
Rape is never justified ever.
I'm not really referring to what is worse according to people, but a lot of people believe some people should die, and murder happens accordingly (btw if you consider killing in warfare to not be murder then please just disregard my comments) (not approving of it btw) but I can't think of too many circumstances where rape is ever ok.Bearjing said:
He explains it fairly well. If you're murdered then... you're just dead, if you are raped you suffer from it. Once again not saying murder is a-ok.Adremmalech said:
quite easy. Murder. A rape is a horrible crime, but at the end of the day, the person who was raped was alive (though they were hurt and traumatized probably). With a murder, the person murdered is dead. FINISHED. No way for the murdered to come back to life.
I'd have to think murder. Rape ruins someone's life, murder ends it. I don't have to think too hard as to which one is worse.
There are countless reasons for a murderer to do what he does. Watch any action movie you own and show me one where there is no murder. The viewer cheers for Bruce in Die Hard. Most men want to be like 007. The expendables had obvious good guys and bad guys. Beverly Hills Cop had obvious protagonists. they save the day!
I have yet to hear a single good reason to rape another person.
I have yet to hear a single good reason to rape another person.
Murder and killing are not the exact same thingbushwhacker2k said:
Murder
noun
1. Law . the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law
Verb
5. to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously.
Killing can be justified. You attack me with a knife in my home, I am justified in putting two shotgun shells in your brain. But if I decide to kill you in any other circumstnace, it is not justified.
I came up with an answer, but I don't really want to say it because I would feel like a dick if I justified rape.Shapsters said:
They are both very made, and it usually takes a unique form of human in this modern age to murder or rape an innocent person. But I am slanting more to the murder side being worse, with rape it is a terrible thing but it can be recovered from through years of therapy and professional help. Rape in most cases is over very quickly and rarely lasts longer then a few minutes, due to the rapist's own fear of being caught in the act. Murder however, can be over in a split second, but in quite a number of cases it can be over in hours days or even months. Torture and maximum pain are often used before the final murder so I would say murder is worse, due to it causes the most physical pain, and you end up dead.
Whilst none of this should be dismissed flippantly; sufferers of abuse are more likely to grow up to become abusers in the future, a cycle potentially more damaging to a society than a single murderous act.
Murder is worse. When someone gets raped, they get hurt and humiliated, thats about it. I don't understand how someone can think this is worse than getting killed.
I'm pretty sure if you asked a rape victim if they would rather have died, they would say no.
I'm pretty sure if you asked a rape victim if they would rather have died, they would say no.
Murder can be Justified
Rape on the other hand, Can not!
Some might deserve to die (As cold and inhuman it may sound to some)
It's a greyzone. Depending on the circumstances, the act of Rape is much worse than the act of Murder. The physical and mental torture that rape is, can long term seem much worse if the victim is traumatized badly afterwards.
Though ending another persons life, who might not deserve it is ultimately worse.
You can't put the two crimes up side by side, without the answerer having to give a thorough explanation of his/her choice afterwards.
Rape on the other hand, Can not!
Some might deserve to die (As cold and inhuman it may sound to some)
It's a greyzone. Depending on the circumstances, the act of Rape is much worse than the act of Murder. The physical and mental torture that rape is, can long term seem much worse if the victim is traumatized badly afterwards.
Though ending another persons life, who might not deserve it is ultimately worse.
You can't put the two crimes up side by side, without the answerer having to give a thorough explanation of his/her choice afterwards.
Pretty much this.Kolosus said:
I mean how can you accidentally rape someone or rape in self defense?
CM156 said:
I did actually address that point somewhat, and I didn't do it so people couldn't just prove me wrong by default. I think the action of justifying the act of killing because "the law says it's okay" or "we're in war, people die" doesn't really fly.bushwhacker2k said:
Perhaps you are defending yourself, but if the guy on the other end of the gun barrel isn't breathing anymore, it's the same result.
I'm not arguing this, this is my opinion and I sincerely hope I won't be persuaded to continue talking about this.
Rape and Murder are the same in my books. Usually murder would follow a rape, which is just horrible. The sick bastards who commit these crimes need to be locked up for a long time.
I think this whole "rape ruins lives!" rhetoric is victimising bullshit that doesn't help anyone. It really annoys me because I know girls who have been raped and they are completely happy, healthy people. I hate this stupid bleeding heart response of "Oh you poor thing! Your life is now automatically ruined!" Because, guess what? If you treat someone like they are a victim - they are going to be a victim all their life.
There's no reason why rape has to ruin someone's life. If society didn't victimise people who have been raped so heavily they'd be much better off.
Note: I'm not suggesting that people who have been raped haven't experienced serious trauma or don't deserve help. They absolutely do. I just don't like the mentality off extreme victimisation - to the point where people are brainwashed into believing it is worse than removing them from existence - because that mentality harms these rape victims in so many ways.
Murder is worse on so many levels. For starters, that person is removed from existence. Rape victims have every chance of being completely happy people afterwards - and any mentality that says otherwise is incredibly dangerous. Murdered people don't get a chance to experience life anymore.
There's no reason why rape has to ruin someone's life. If society didn't victimise people who have been raped so heavily they'd be much better off.
Note: I'm not suggesting that people who have been raped haven't experienced serious trauma or don't deserve help. They absolutely do. I just don't like the mentality off extreme victimisation - to the point where people are brainwashed into believing it is worse than removing them from existence - because that mentality harms these rape victims in so many ways.
Murder is worse on so many levels. For starters, that person is removed from existence. Rape victims have every chance of being completely happy people afterwards - and any mentality that says otherwise is incredibly dangerous. Murdered people don't get a chance to experience life anymore.
The question is obviously talking about murdering innocents. You are comparing the killing of bad guys to the rape of innocents. If you want to bend it like that, then a paper cut is worse.Bocaj2000 said: