Poll: Who Do You Think is Best RPGs Between Bioware, Square Enix, and Bethesda?
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Bioware, Bethesda comes in a close second but I like choices that actually affect the world and the plot. Something that Bethesda rarely does. Plus, the characters that Bioware creates are some of the best in my opinion. I will give the bethesda that fact though that they can create an amazing world to explore around, I haven't played anything that's like that in a different game yet.
Meh not to big a fan of current Bioware they did better stuff in the past that I liked iv played and just not really enjoyed current stuffDracoSuave said:
Obsidian may have bugs in there games but I do enjoy them I enjoyed FO:NV alot more then 3.
Also Square didnt make Deus Ex 3 they only published it major diffrence.
As for elitisem sorry im not im just stating its best to keep stuff diffrent since both play alot diffrent in almost every aspect
Also please dont say son you sound like a asshole
It has to be Bethesda. I don't like JRPGs so Square Enix is out. I also don't like the Mass Effect games so Bethesda wins by default. (On a side note, Bethesda is actually my favourite maker of games, period)
I choose bethesda. Ya they've needed an engine change for years but if there's any group of games Iv'e put the most time into it would have to be bethesda games. I respect bioware games but the those games just don't have the same incentive to replayablility and don't have as much room for you to forge your own adventure despite all the work to do just that. I don't remember anything from square-enix very fondly. Surprisingly the thing I most enjoyed from the company (that iv'e played) was the original final fantasy on the psp.
Excuse me what?ChupathingyX said:
"barely have any choice in them"? What Bethesda games have you been playing, good sir?
I would say Bethesda, simply because I'm a sucker for open world RPG's, and they have made what are arguable the best ones to date. I enjoy JRPG's and 2 of my favorite games of all time are from Square (kingdom hearts and FF7), but, in the other hand, other 3 of my favorite games of all time are fallout 3 and TES 3 and 4 so... Bethesda wins the hand
Also, Obsidian? Really? The guys that did Alpha Protocol, and the incredibly buggy New Vegas?
Okay... I guess...
And you have never played any final fantasy? Or dragon age? mass effect? What the hell man? Your comment puzzles me.
Protip: Don't vote in a poll if you don't know what you are voting about.
Yeah, those guys. Two big differences between Obsidian and Bethesada are that A) Obsidian are much better writers, and B) Bethesada (for no apparent reason) gets a pass from people on bad gameplay and buggy games, Obsidian does not.sergnb said:
Alpha protocol's dialogue system may be awesome but that doesn't make them "better writers". I do agree Bethesda's dialogues tend to be pretty cheesy, tho.Kahunaburger said:
Bethesda "gets away" with buggy games because they balance it with insanely high amounts of content and huge worlds to explore.
And since when didn't Obsidian get away with a buggy game too? As far as I know New Vegas has been receiving a shitload of good reviews and everybody seems to love it (including myself).
But then you have Alpha protocol's unplayability...
Let's put it this way: the bar for "better writers" then Behtesada is very low. Regardless of what you think about Obsidian writing, we can all agree that it's somewhere above that bar.sergnb said:
Yeah, Bethesada does have good elements in their games, mainly related to exploration. But it never fails to crack me up when people rage at New Vegas one minute for being buggy and turn around and praise Oblivion or FO:3 the next.
I personally think that Bioware's been dropping the ball since KotOR (I didn't like the demo for DA2 that I played--not enough to sell me on the series, at least--and ME2 had good writing, but once again, the gameplay was garbage), and not since the first Final Fantasy has Square put out anything I like. Well, that's not true, I liked Kingdom Hearts, and I've never played any of the Japan-exclusive games, but I'm not voting for a movie-with-interactive-bits company over an actual game company.
So, Bethesda it is. Their games aren't very buggy IMO (I'm ignoring Brink since I haven't played it and never will) and their buggiest (New Vegas) was developed by OBSIDIAN of all people. I hate Obsidian for one reason and one reason alone--they made the monstrocity that is KotOR 2. KotOR was my Favorite Game of All Time for awhile, and even now I still love it, but Obsidian has tarnished my memories with arguably the worst sequel of all time. A nonsensical plot, completely mutilated dialogue trees, decent combat (they fixed all the problems there, at least), and then they C&D the people who were trying to fix their mess??? WTF??? If you won't make a decent game, then at least let others give it a shot!
So, Bethesda it is. Their games aren't very buggy IMO (I'm ignoring Brink since I haven't played it and never will) and their buggiest (New Vegas) was developed by OBSIDIAN of all people. I hate Obsidian for one reason and one reason alone--they made the monstrocity that is KotOR 2. KotOR was my Favorite Game of All Time for awhile, and even now I still love it, but Obsidian has tarnished my memories with arguably the worst sequel of all time. A nonsensical plot, completely mutilated dialogue trees, decent combat (they fixed all the problems there, at least), and then they C&D the people who were trying to fix their mess??? WTF??? If you won't make a decent game, then at least let others give it a shot!
If you've heard a lot of complains about New Vegas it's because a shitload of new players got introduced to open RPG's like that with this game and got VERY mad when the game deleted their save files with a bug and whatnot. The first days, the game was unplayable. Also, for your information, a lot of people thought New Vegas was made by Bethesda at first when they only published it, so it is not really a bias towards bethesda, it's a matter of which's game first few weeks were worse bug-wise.Kahunaburger said:
New Vegas wins this by far, and nobody can deny this.
Worse sequel of all time? I loved the first KOTOR and I thought KOTOR 2 was just good. Nonsensical plot? The writing was top notch, and it pretty much deconstructed the themes of the Star Wars universe, the first game, and RPG's themselves. Mutilated dialogue trees? I don't remember any of that stuff. Also, Obsidian wanted to release a patch fixing the bugs and patching in the content that got cut but Lucas Arts wouldn't let them.uncanny474 said:
If you don't like the game fine, but there are plenty of worse sequels out there.
Square Enix, due to the sheer Volume of games and the ability to do it right the first time (Mostly.)
None. CD Projekt is the right answer. All three companies have lost their touch.
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Antidote to BIOWARE: If you liked KOTOR, but didn't like the direction Bioware went to casual all their following RPGs, play Witcher 1 because it has that same pseudo-real time/turn based battle system, lots of loot. Decisions that change entire parts of the game, the sort of game-changing you won't expect, and they're very hard to spot unlike Bioware's light/dark systems. One of the best RPGs in years, with some really memorable side quests.
Antidote to BETHESDA: If you're a fan of towns in Morrowind/Oblivion, play Witcher 2 where entire towns could be missed based on your decisions. Much better handling of the "Radiant AI" Bethesda was promising which fell WAY flat in execution [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uac_e4GJpbw&feature=related]. Much better combat, strategy, and side quests.
http://www.gamerdna.com/uimage/large/geralt-jpg.jpg
Antidote to BIOWARE: If you liked KOTOR, but didn't like the direction Bioware went to casual all their following RPGs, play Witcher 1 because it has that same pseudo-real time/turn based battle system, lots of loot. Decisions that change entire parts of the game, the sort of game-changing you won't expect, and they're very hard to spot unlike Bioware's light/dark systems. One of the best RPGs in years, with some really memorable side quests.
Antidote to BETHESDA: If you're a fan of towns in Morrowind/Oblivion, play Witcher 2 where entire towns could be missed based on your decisions. Much better handling of the "Radiant AI" Bethesda was promising which fell WAY flat in execution [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uac_e4GJpbw&feature=related]. Much better combat, strategy, and side quests.