Poll: Who has been turned off PSV by Memory Pricing?
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agreed on both of these.believer258 said:
i mean jesus, someone has a a anti sony stick stuck way up their ass..
yeah those cards might be a bit expensive, but i've seen worse from other companies as well, and like said, it's almost a guarantee 3rd party companies will come along to help even out some pricing, and unless you want to carry your whole library with you digitally, this isn't a big deal at all.
I'm still getting the system regardless.
The prices don't surprise me, nor should anyone else be surprised at this. Sony has always been about pushing their proprietary products for good or worse. Admittedly it did piss me off at first when they decided not to use their existing pro-duo sticks because that would have made sense. Then again, I understand WHY they decided on this route for two reasons.
1) Piracy- They will not entirely eliminate piracy, but they are taking what they learned from the PSP and applying it in their designs to AT LEAST slow it down. The system was rampant with it, and then gamers wondered why "there were no games" for it and why it was rather under supported in the west. This is just one of the few ways they plan on slowing it down even for a bit, especially when there has already been a firmware extractor developed for it (can't be used for piracy...yet).
2) Financial cushioning- Some posters have already elaborated on it so I'll just quote the follow abover me:
Believer258
" I'd also bet that these expensive proprietary memory cards are to make up for any losses they might be taking. You people do know that new consoles are almost always sold at a loss, right? That's a huge risk for any business to take, even if your safety net is as big as Sony's. These prices are probably just to soften the blow a bit, at least for a little while."
Besides that, I plan on pre-ordering my Vita which for an extra 50 bucks, comes with a 4GB stick (enough for saves, DLC, and a little extra), AND a game. Wi-fi model + 4GB stick + game = $300 and I get it all a week prior to official release. This bundle is very appealing and even cost efficient for early adopters.
Now given the prices of these sticks, that means with this bundle you essentially get a free mem stick or free game whichever way you look at it. That extra 50 bucks pays off the $40 for the mem stick, and get the game for pretty much nothing.
Besides, chances are there will be third party sticks a few weeks/months down the line for a cheaper cost. Or hell someone may make an adapter like they did with the PSP to allow micro SD cards to work on it. So quit pissing and moaning and have a little patience, and take a minute to think about it all before resorting to these knee-jerk reactions.
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Overall though, I'm still getting a Vita because of the fucking GAMES. Remember? the sole reason to buy a system?
Taking a gander at the ever growing list of game at launch and post launch, I can't help but get excited because there is just so much there that catches my eye. It's one of the strongest launch line ups I have ever seen with a host of games targeted at almost everyone. Coupled with the amazing hardware, and the excellent price (you are stupid if you think $250 is too much), it's just such an enticing package for me.
Hell the battery life doesn't bother me all that much, I'll just buy that battery add-on to get that extra playing time out of it if I want. Seriously, with hardware THAT powerful, why is it so fucking surprising and terrible that the battery life is what it is? Why the hell did ANYONE think that a portable with power almost on part with current gen consoles would have a standard battery life of anywhere over even 10 hours? I'm sure it's possible, but then you run in to the issue of COST again. They could make it bigger, but that would mark up the price point which then just leads to more bitching. Compromises have to be made to get a proper balance of battery, horsepower, heat, cost, ect...
I'm sure down the line there will be a more power efficient model with greater battery life. If you are unhappy with that, just fucking be patient and WAIT, because chances are you aren't an early adopter to begin with.
OK I've rambled on for long enough to make people know my stance on the whole Vita thing. I'm looking forward to it and am getting it despite a few issues that I initially expected to have anyways. Just...this is getting annoying with people and their petty, alarmist complaints that show they haven't properly thought this shit through; or they were never interested in the thing to begin with so they just gotta waltz in and be all contrarian.
And it's annoying....just stop it already.
/rant
Sorry if I may have come off as kinda douchey near the end, I'm pumped full of caffeine and some of these comments have just angried up the blood.
The prices don't surprise me, nor should anyone else be surprised at this. Sony has always been about pushing their proprietary products for good or worse. Admittedly it did piss me off at first when they decided not to use their existing pro-duo sticks because that would have made sense. Then again, I understand WHY they decided on this route for two reasons.
1) Piracy- They will not entirely eliminate piracy, but they are taking what they learned from the PSP and applying it in their designs to AT LEAST slow it down. The system was rampant with it, and then gamers wondered why "there were no games" for it and why it was rather under supported in the west. This is just one of the few ways they plan on slowing it down even for a bit, especially when there has already been a firmware extractor developed for it (can't be used for piracy...yet).
2) Financial cushioning- Some posters have already elaborated on it so I'll just quote the follow abover me:
Believer258
" I'd also bet that these expensive proprietary memory cards are to make up for any losses they might be taking. You people do know that new consoles are almost always sold at a loss, right? That's a huge risk for any business to take, even if your safety net is as big as Sony's. These prices are probably just to soften the blow a bit, at least for a little while."
Besides that, I plan on pre-ordering my Vita which for an extra 50 bucks, comes with a 4GB stick (enough for saves, DLC, and a little extra), AND a game. Wi-fi model + 4GB stick + game = $300 and I get it all a week prior to official release. This bundle is very appealing and even cost efficient for early adopters.
Now given the prices of these sticks, that means with this bundle you essentially get a free mem stick or free game whichever way you look at it. That extra 50 bucks pays off the $40 for the mem stick, and get the game for pretty much nothing.
Besides, chances are there will be third party sticks a few weeks/months down the line for a cheaper cost. Or hell someone may make an adapter like they did with the PSP to allow micro SD cards to work on it. So quit pissing and moaning and have a little patience, and take a minute to think about it all before resorting to these knee-jerk reactions.
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Overall though, I'm still getting a Vita because of the fucking GAMES. Remember? the sole reason to buy a system?
Taking a gander at the ever growing list of game at launch and post launch, I can't help but get excited because there is just so much there that catches my eye. It's one of the strongest launch line ups I have ever seen with a host of games targeted at almost everyone. Coupled with the amazing hardware, and the excellent price (you are stupid if you think $250 is too much), it's just such an enticing package for me.
Hell the battery life doesn't bother me all that much, I'll just buy that battery add-on to get that extra playing time out of it if I want. Seriously, with hardware THAT powerful, why is it so fucking surprising and terrible that the battery life is what it is? Why the hell did ANYONE think that a portable with power almost on part with current gen consoles would have a standard battery life of anywhere over even 10 hours? I'm sure it's possible, but then you run in to the issue of COST again. They could make it bigger, but that would mark up the price point which then just leads to more bitching. Compromises have to be made to get a proper balance of battery, horsepower, heat, cost, ect...
I'm sure down the line there will be a more power efficient model with greater battery life. If you are unhappy with that, just fucking be patient and WAIT, because chances are you aren't an early adopter to begin with.
OK I've rambled on for long enough to make people know my stance on the whole Vita thing. I'm looking forward to it and am getting it despite a few issues that I initially expected to have anyways. Just...this is getting annoying with people and their petty, alarmist complaints that show they haven't properly thought this shit through; or they were never interested in the thing to begin with so they just gotta waltz in and be all contrarian.
And it's annoying....just stop it already.
/rant
Sorry if I may have come off as kinda douchey near the end, I'm pumped full of caffeine and some of these comments have just angried up the blood.
£230 + £20?
Yeah, I'd still buy that at a push. I'd play more games than that amount of memory could hold, but not quick enough to merit spending more the first time round.
Tbh, I think the fact that the price of the console in the UK isn't adjusted to the value of the pound to the dollar is a more bitter pill to swallow (for people in the UK, obviously). I mean, the price of $250 is ridiculous enough to me as is, the fact that it isn't £160 is just stupid. What the hell are Sony doing that merits them whacking up the price by £70? If it's non-regional, I'm ordering from the US.
Yeah, I'd still buy that at a push. I'd play more games than that amount of memory could hold, but not quick enough to merit spending more the first time round.
Tbh, I think the fact that the price of the console in the UK isn't adjusted to the value of the pound to the dollar is a more bitter pill to swallow (for people in the UK, obviously). I mean, the price of $250 is ridiculous enough to me as is, the fact that it isn't £160 is just stupid. What the hell are Sony doing that merits them whacking up the price by £70? If it's non-regional, I'm ordering from the US.
Yea I feel sorry for EU and Aussie gamers, you guys always get the shaft when it comes to the pricing, and it is rather baffling why they don't properly adjust prices. Thankfully, it IS region free if price and even certain region specific titles are a concern.jessegeek said:
It's been known for some time that it would be region free, it's mainly Nintendo that seems to pull this region locking bullshit with their hardware. Funny how the DS was from what I gathered, region free, but then they go an pull the region lock BS with the 3DS...which is just silly and draconian.
Two, two TWO strawmen for the price of one!OutrageousEmu said:
Nobody claimed that anyone was making us play it. Still doesn't make it a feather in their cap.
...Sorry, did I actually just address the real point of contention instead of arguing against a fictitious one? I'll work on that later.
Damn, the Playstation 5 is out already?
Oh, you mean the Vita. I don't really care about the pricing issue, in the end the price ends up being about 370$ if you're looking to get the whole shebang, which is pretty much what I expected anyway.
If I were to get it I wouldn't even need that many gigs in the first place, I'd probably pick up the 30 dollar one. I don't want to download games onto it anyway, that the was the main reason I never got a PSP GO.
I guess you could wait for the prices to drop.
Oh, you mean the Vita. I don't really care about the pricing issue, in the end the price ends up being about 370$ if you're looking to get the whole shebang, which is pretty much what I expected anyway.
If I were to get it I wouldn't even need that many gigs in the first place, I'd probably pick up the 30 dollar one. I don't want to download games onto it anyway, that the was the main reason I never got a PSP GO.
I guess you could wait for the prices to drop.
Yeah... it's still a remake.OutrageousEmu said:
And these sort of games are completely unsuited to a portable platform due to the time investment. The difficulty curve is completely disrupted by the stop-start nature of portable gaming out in the real world working around appointments, classes, work, breaks, train and commutes. Why the hell is the mark out game for the PSV a bloody remake? If persona 4 is so fucking great, how can it possibly be improved on, it's the same logic that has Lucas re-editing his old films so han shot first.
I'm not going to pay through the nose to get a game platform combination of what would by then be a 4 year old product to play on a tiny screen. Persona is an epic game of commitment, it is not an easy drop-in-drop-out kind of game like is suited to on the go.
Persona is on Portable Sony consoles for one reason: Persona is popular in japan where portable consoles have gained a unique foothold. There are many and various reasons for why but it's not because games like persona are suited or even reasonably adapted to handhelds.
Spoony doesn't hate everything, it's just he is most entertaining when he hates, so that's what he reviews. Do what you do best.
