Poll: Who would you rather let die, your pet or me?

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DudeistBelieve

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oh depending upon the circumstances around the pet, how I got it and what not and the method of death used. I'll assume the death is humane, in their sleep. Then certainly I'd choose the pet to die, and you to live sir.

I'd probably kick you in the shin, really really hard afterwards.
 

jameskillalot

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I've met plenty of people, they suck. My dog loves me unconditionally, I don't know you, and if you disappear it doesn't affect me; I love animals, and for all I know you're a mass murderer, so in fact my dog now stopped a serial killer. Take that logic.
 

crusha_aa

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Griphphin said:
A better way to look at it would be would you rather save a friend or a dog? I feel this is applicable because the OP is a friend to many people, though they may not be you. Where you will mourn the dog's death for a time, you will probably eventually buy a new one (as heartless as that sounds, I've seen it happen time and time again, with my family and others), nobody can replace what the OP could have done for the world with the education he has and is getting.
A stranger is a lot different to a friend. So that woudlnt be a better way of looiking at it. If your close to your dog and close to your friend i am sure more people would save their friends life, but replace that friend with a stranger and that human life is suddenly worth a lot less to some.
 

Ensiferum

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Human beings have souls. Animals do not. Therefore, as much as I might love a pet, it's still just an animal next to a sentient, immortal being.
 

ThatDaveDude1

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Brawndo said:
ThatDaveDude1 said:
Or are you insinuating that human life is inherently worth more than animal life, irrespective of any other factors?
Human life is absolutely more inherently important. Humans are self-aware and capable of higher thought, while 99.9% of other animals are not. It is the same reason you would squash a spider without a second thought, but would hesitate to kill an orangutan.

This does not mean I advocate the abuse of animals or ravaging the environment, but when it is a matter of life or death, there is not a single species of animal I would save over a random human's life.
I can't even begin to fathom how much I disagree with you.

Yes, the vast majority of humans are self aware and capable of higher thought, and your point is? Through which logical thought process have you come to the conclusion that simply being self aware and capable of higher thought makes a living creature more worthy of life than another?

Also, I most certainly would not "squash a spider without a second thought." They're living creatures and, unless of course the spider is venomous which is a completely different story, they mean me no harm. There is absolutely no rational reason to kill an average spider, with or without a second thought. Just because you so coldly pick and choose which species are and aren't worthy of your respect doesn't mean that I have to agree with you.
 

labbu

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OP, I think what you're saying is a bit harsh. You're implying that it's selfish to save, say my dog instead of saving a fellow human being, because the dog isn't a human being. Having read through a few comments (just the first and last page, I'm a bit lazy), I'd say having to pick between saving one of 2 lives, has more to do with knowing someone, or something, rather than whether or not that something looks like you.

For example, I have a cat, his name is Chester. I've known him from the day he was born, he's always around when I get lonely; he's my best friend. I don't care whether or not he's human, I love him regardless.

Now, I walk outside, and see a complete stranger. I know nothing about him/her, I don't care about him/her, and he/she probably doesn't care for me either. And when he/she walks away, I probably won't see him/her ever again.

Basically, what you're asking me is whether I'd save a friend, or a random person in the street. To me, it doesn't matter whether or not they're both cats, both human beings, or one cat and one human, I'd save the ones I love, and that's not selfish! If you tell people they must value other people (or animals, in this case), over the ones they love, then that's complete hypocritical bullshit!

Sorry for the massive rant, props if you actually read through the whole thing.
 

masticina

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Is this one of those tricky "If you have to choose what do you put value on" questions.

Not to mention mere two choices.. hell even the basic human response on danger [lets say a fire] is Fear, Flight or Fight. That is three one more then two!

And not to mention you know those choosing the pet are bound to be looked bad at. Bad at for what? Their pet is part of their tribe.. they protect their tribe!

Or leads this "What value is the life of a pet" or "What is the value of the life of a human" ..

Really lovely you ask it here but I shall tell you what this means in the background. NOTHING! Nothing anybody choses today will matter.. the day they are in such situation!

Because IN THE MOMENT choices are made.

Mmm you know animals are quite better to survive then we do. We are using our high intellect but in nature intellect is not always a winning combination. As you might noticed some dinosaurs we're dumb! Just like the Capibari[biggest cousing of the guinea pig]is dumb like a brick compared to many other animals.

Hell if bad happens and my pets [rats] get lose they will certainly survive. Yes they might lack the fear of creatures bigger then them but on the other hand they know how to nest, much of their functionality is pre programmed... they can survive.
 

TheEndlessSleep

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Ensiferum said:
Human beings have souls. Animals do not. Therefore, as much as I might love a pet, it's still just an animal next to a person.
Don't bring bloody souls into this. Show me some hard evidence that they exist and you can use them in your argument all you wish...
 

madmatt

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wow! There are some heartless people out there. You would value a human life less because they live farther away? Because they aren't standing on top of you? Because by chance, you have never met him, despite his capacity to reason and think? This could be a reason why human rights are fading from the world's discourse - people aren't willing to value stranger's lives more than inconvenience to themselves, even in an extended sense.

That said i would hate to see my cats die. So it would have to be a sure thing, not just something that might randomly happen...
 

nunqual

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You. I don't know you enough to give a damn. You could be a complete asshole for all I know.
 

crop52

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Brawndo said:
I could be a disliked loner or beloved by family or friends, a dumbass or a prodigy, a criminal or a volunteer with children and the elderly. You can't know.
correct...

Brawndo said:
human being with family, friends, a significant other, a job where they provide value to others, hopes, and dreams.
....hm,

seriously mate?
 

nicholaxxx

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number of people in the world: 6,775,235,741

number of animals that remind me of my father in the world: 1

sorry, mate, you're gunna have to take one for the team.
 

Knusper

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Assuming I still had my rabbit It escaped and went missing years ago), I would save you. I'm assuming you are human and you seem like an alright chap and my rabbit did try to bite my finger off once. But even if I really loved him, I would probably still save you, I couldn't live with killing another human being.
 

Eireronin

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A choice between you and my dog? My dog wins.

A choice between you and me? You win.

My dog is a source of constant protection, companionship and help. You are a human being, 90 percent of human beings are assholes.
Case in point, me, I know I'm a jerk, there's a chance you're not a jerk, you over me, my dog over you.
 

GameMaNiAC

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I would save your life. There's nothing more satisfying than helping out another person, for me. No matter who you are, you do not deserve to die. I may love my pet, but a human being is a far more complicated creature than an animal. Plus, I can't let a fellow gamer die! No one gets left behind!
 

Jodah

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CarlMinez said:
Jodah said:
I've met too many jerks that don't deserve the gum off the bottom of my shoe. You may be a fine upstanding citizen but I don't know that, you could just as easily be the next Hitler. Therefore, I will save my cat Walrus.
What if Walrus will be the next Hitler?
I know I will follow him if he does! I mean who is going to argue with a cat that can talk and goose step?!