just wondering: are there as many stds(now known as STIs) in other countries besides america? because that would changes views a lot.
Poll: Whom is more ignorant in your eyes?
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Abstinence. It may be the most effective birth control, but lots of lies are spread and it demonizes sex as teh evils. As for the latter option, I'm personally an advocate of sexual openness and freedom and not treating it as such a horrible, shameful thing. Just be responsible and use at least 2 methods of birth control, preferably one of them a condom. Honestly, I was surprised with how even the polls were.
And one delicious bit of irony I've noticed: A lot of abstinence supporters who say abstinence is the only 100% effective form of birth control are also firm Christians who believe in the virgin birth of Christ. So even if you don't have sex, you can still get pregnant.
And one delicious bit of irony I've noticed: A lot of abstinence supporters who say abstinence is the only 100% effective form of birth control are also firm Christians who believe in the virgin birth of Christ. So even if you don't have sex, you can still get pregnant.
European countries with comprehensive sex ed programs (as opposed to abstinence only programs) have much lower rates of STD transmission and teen pregnancy. This trend is also true within America, Red states (which tend to have more abstinance only programs) have a higher rate of teen pregnancy and STD transmission than Blue states (which tend more towards comprehensive programs).toasterslayer said:
EDIT: However, the African continent, where there are hardly any conrtacepties at all, has even higher rates of STD transmission and teen pregnancy than America. Note here that the pope has done a lot of work trying to spread an abstinance only message in Africa, and that African children are often told blatant lies about bad things that will happen to them if they use contraceptives.
You are ignorant in my eyes!toasterslayer said:
How would that change views?
And when is the correct time to use the word 'Whom' instead of 'Who'?
Already said this once, but I'll make sure you hear too. Statistically the rates of teen pregnancy and STD transmission are much higher in America than in European countries with comprehensive sex ed programs. This trend is also true within America, Red states (which tend to have more abstinance only programs) have a higher rate of teen pregnancy and STD transmission than Blue states (which tend more towards comprehensive programs).Terminalchaos said:
Thank you. I previously tried to explain it, but I was under personal stress from other things, and I think I missed the important point.Terminalchaos said:
Sometimes it might mean this emotion you humans call "love," but for the most part you're right. Most people need to marry to afford housing and cars, among other things, and a lot of people marry for the money or to make headlines in the case of celebrities. Oh, and shotgun weddings, can't forget those.Gormourn said:
The planet is under heavy stress...TaborMallory said:
Is that why Russia has a density of 20 people per square mile, and Australia has a density of 7/ square mile, the US has 80/sq mile... I love how one can no longer disagree with each other without being called names. Our problem is not too many people, it's too many people concentrated in small locations. Take the central eastern portion of China, which is ridiculously overcrowded.
Abortion is killing, at least, as perhaps you could argue that the fetus is not human, though that gets really shaky, (i.e. at what point does it become a human), but it is still killing. It may be killing something with a good end in mind, but the fetus is a living thing that you are destroying merely because it is inconvenient, in most cases. If the mother's life is in danger, or in certain other cases, fine, it may be unavoidable. Otherwise... yeah.
And hell yes it's inhumane. They suck the kid's brains out, and cut him to pieces, for crying out loud. If there is the least chance that he can feel that, don't you think we should do something about it?
I don't think people who support premarital abstinence are ignorant. Even without the religious factor, something like that is based on an individuals morality. The ignorant ones are the people who preach abstinence education.
Again, after you. You want to not have kids, because you think Mother Earth is getting a bit too crowded, go ahead. We'll be more than glad to have you out of the pool, as it were.Terminalchaos said:
Just think about what you are suggesting. Something like what China has? How exactly do you plan to enforce this "population control?"
I hear you. I've been through some abstinence-only sex education, and it was a joke. It just taught some anatomy and STD's, and of course the standard morality stuff about living with your family (What the hell does that have to do with sex?) and interpersonal relationships. The coach teaching it knew it was BS and said that they could not teach about sex itself or protection, aka what sex ed is about teaching.Jerious1154 said:
I'm not trying to insult you. I'm just voicing my opinion that humans are terrible at resource management. In fact, now that I think about it, I agree with your statement that a population crisis isn't the right choice of words.Thanatos34 said:
Also, my view on abortion is just my opinion. I'm not insulting yours, I'm just explaining why I feel this way.
And why is it that abstinence before marriage is moral? If you judge morality as "what relieves the most suffering, and causes the most happiness" then your pretentions to abstinence before marriage being moral are moot. Responsible sex outside of marriage can increase a couples happiness. The only reason people think that waiting until being married is moral is because of an old book.Jerious1154 said:
