Poll: Why choose being vegan over vegetarian?
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In the words of Eric Cartman, "freakin hippies!"
I think that Vegans figure they they aren't going to eat meat(which to me is crazy, but I respect vegetarians and vegans as long as they stick to it) that they might well go all they way to prove a point. To me, vegetarians don't want to eat living things, vegans want to prove the the world that they are fully dedicated.
Still, I think it's crazy, Vegans may not eat anything with a face, but I'll eat anything as long as it doesn't have a drivers licence, ba dum tish!
I think that Vegans figure they they aren't going to eat meat(which to me is crazy, but I respect vegetarians and vegans as long as they stick to it) that they might well go all they way to prove a point. To me, vegetarians don't want to eat living things, vegans want to prove the the world that they are fully dedicated.
Still, I think it's crazy, Vegans may not eat anything with a face, but I'll eat anything as long as it doesn't have a drivers licence, ba dum tish!
The biology of plants and animals doesn't differ THAT much. However, plants aren't cute, don't move much, and won't scream when you kill them, which (sadly) is where the problem arises with most vegetarians/vegans that I've met. Yes, I know the meat industry is bad for the environment. Yes, I know that you will probably lose weight due to eating less fat (and protein!). However, if I found out that I could never have another roast beef sandwich with au jus, I would weep uncontrollably, as the food that I like to eat has become a real source of joy in my life.
Honestly I think it is unhealthy and pointless. Flame me if you want to, but know that there is no point that you could make that will change my views.
Honestly I think it is unhealthy and pointless. Flame me if you want to, but know that there is no point that you could make that will change my views.
Go Luke Cummo! Most vegetarians should be taking suppliments to complete their diet. The only wrestling vegetarian Ive trained with was ripped to shreds and a beast on the mats.cleverlymadeup said:
The vegan argument is about the mistreatment of farm kept animals on dairies etc.
Obviously they have never eaten kobe beef:
"In accordance with popular belief, the cattle are fed sake and beer, and they are massaged and brushed for setting fur, and fed on grain fodder."
Thats one pampered cow. Plus it tastes awesome. I could go for a beer and a massage right now...
I would say being vegetarian is the healthiest. Not all people need meat to remain healthy as you can get a good deal of the nutrients from meat via other means, while cutting out all of the fat. A lot of body builders are on a vegetarian diet because it is MUCH cleaner than eating meat and they can get all of the protein they need from legumes, tofu, tvp, protein powders, etc. I am personally a vegetarian and I weight lift regularly with no ill affects.cleverlymadeup said:
I eat cheese and milk, but no meat, because I don't like factory farming and I couldn't kill an animal unless it was to put it out of its suffering so I felt that eating meat was hypocritical -- so I gave it up. I agree with the vegetarian Buddhists on this, although probably not much else.
And as for the health argument, well I honestly don't care much about it, but as I did used to eat meat, I can say I was actually a lot less healthy back then. The reason being I never cared much about what I ate, so I used to eat a lot of junk food such as burgers and sausages and the occasional ropey kebab.
And as for the health argument, well I honestly don't care much about it, but as I did used to eat meat, I can say I was actually a lot less healthy back then. The reason being I never cared much about what I ate, so I used to eat a lot of junk food such as burgers and sausages and the occasional ropey kebab.
I put my trust in a lifelong bodybuilder. If he can build that much muscle on a vegetarian diet than it can't be unhealthy. Of course, all that relies on the fact that the person is eating well, but if you eat horribly on a non-vegetarian diet then you will probably in the same situation, if not worse. It all depends on the level of education a person has about nutrition.
As a person who doesn't eat meat, I would never say that vegans care more about animals than they do humans. More accurately I would say they care about creatures equally - whether human or not. If that's creepy in your opinion, so be it.Inverse Skies said:
You're right. Animals do die to produce wheat. But what do most of the cows/pigs raised for slaughter eat? In factory farms / feedlots etc, they eat grains/beans (soymeal). How many kilograms of grain is required to produce a kilogram of beef? Somewhere between 7 and 10 kgs. So although a piece of bread may have resulted in the death of an insect or two - the kilogram of beef that you ate would have resulted in the death of the cow, and millions of insects as a result of the food it ate during its life. So although a vegan diet may not be 100% cruelty free, it sure beats meat-eating on the cruelty scale.dagens24 said:
And by the way, how can someone who condones meat-eating possibly criticise someone for being cruel? I mean... really?
Fair enough, I might be lumping vegans and PETA activists into one group though which is unfair and stigmatising. I recind my earlier statement, I don't understand the idea behind being vegan based on a moral choice but I won't call it creepy.JonteJ said:
Don't take me for some evil, sick, twisted guy, but I mean exactly what I say. There are places in the world where cannibalism is perfectly acceptable.JonteJ said:
Eating other organisms is the foundry upon which carnivores and omnivores are allowed to survive.