Poll: Why do people think fish isn't a meat?

[dariuskyne]

what is this a /b/ thread, enoughy with the god bits, this is supposed to be about fish and if it is a meat or not

1 it is a meat, considering it comes from an animal
2 the conditions that fish farms use are no different or most times, worse than mammal farms
think of a 1000 gallon tank think of 1000 fish in that tank, the fact that they're 12 inches long or more, so one good sized fish per gallon of water, any aquarium owner will tell you that's not enough.
3 other than the jesus bread and fish bit, fish have little to do with god, again this is not /b/ and not pertinent to this disscussion.

 

[Kris015]

Cause it don't have any feelings

Hahahahahahahahahahaha oh my god dude you're a fucking genius!

 

[Xanadu84]

edit: I don't mean fish in dietary terms because there are a lot of nutrient difference from most meat but just in general.

Thats kind of like asking what 2+2 is but then saying you don't want to hear "4"

Fish is different from most meat, in terms of health. A lot of people end up wanting to cut red meat out of there diets, for example, for health reasons. In fact, every vegetarian (Or Vegan) ive ever met has become a Vegetarian for health reasons. The one person I know who considers animal rights in her diet actually eats red meats, assuming that it was hunted and killed in the wild. So all those people who eats fish, but no other meats for health reasons can either say, "Well, for health reasons I only eat grains, fruits and vegetables, which I know sounds a lot like vegetarian, but I do eat fish in many circumstances because they are healthier, and..." blah blah blah. Or they can say, "I'm a Vegetarian who eats Fish" It's a hell of a lot simpler.

 

[Gigaguy64]

Fish is a meat.

Its just not a Red meat like Beef.

Its also like what some people have said.
During lent people are forbidden from eating Red meat but Fish was acceptable.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Fish is meat but it is not meat in the way poultry or mammal meat is meat. Poultry is white meat, mammal meat is red meat and fish is still meat but a different kind. Some mammals or poultry may be red or white I am not sure but the only examples I can think of for each the rule follows.

 

[superbatranger]

I never understood that either. Fish isn't considered a meat? How does that make even sense? Now, I know it dates back to the Bible and whatnot, but it still doesn't make sense. What made them arrive at that conclusion? Fish live in water? Is that it? Or is it because of the texture? I don't see the point in it.

 

[Terramax]

Because it smells funny!

 

[SPCF]

I don't eat fish/seafood so I don't really care for them :/

 

[Jerious1154]

The "fish is not meat" thing goes further back than Catholicism. In Leviticus, when God is setting down the rules for how to keep kosher (Jewish dietary laws), he says you can't eat milk and meat during the same meal, but you can eat milk and fish during the same meal. This implies that fish is not meat. Since Christianity originated from Judaism, it makes sense that Catholics would also treat fish and meat as two different things, and it's sort of become ingrained into a lot of people that they're not the same, even though they kind of are.

Did it actually say "fish isn't a meat" or that "you can't eat meat with milk but fish is the exception among meat". Because that would give 2 different results in what it defines as meat.

It basically says "You can't eat milk with meat, but you can eat fish with meat." It doesn't explicitly state that fish isn't meat, but it classifies them as two different categories of food. There are also completely different rules between how cows, sheep, chickens etc need to be slaughtered vs how fish need to be slaughtered.

 

[direkiller]

They aren't considered meat in a basic food pie chart (dairy, fat, etc.) But they fall under "Meat, Fish and Alternatives". 'Alternatives' being things like eggs, which will apply to Vegans. As a note eggs appear in other categories too. So they are technically meat, and a pet peeve of my is those that don't consider them meat but call themselves a Vegetarian. Fucking Pescatarian in denial more like. *glares at dad's girlfriend*

My sister calls herself vegetation but eats eggs because there just chicken periods and they would never amount to a living.(idk kinda let her slide on that one because she is right)

According to Catholic law/mythos...God said so.

I'm surprised as to how long it took for someone to give the proper answer.

But yeah, it's that, God said you could it eat on some Friday or something, meaning it wasn't meat (makes no sense to me, but whatever).

OK why would God think that fish isn't meat (or in my few why did the people that wrote the bible think fish isn't meat)

The bible dosen't say fish are not meat. To lazy to look it up but it basically said you will not eat living things on land. Over 2000 years it just got shorted to not eating meat on Friday/Christmas. So thus people think fish is not meat.

 

[Naeo]

It comes from an animal and is flesh. Ergo, it is meat. Just like if you took a thousand bumblebees and removed their soft, fleshy non-skeleton interiors and made a steak out of it, it would still be meat.

 

[Mephisteus]

Basically when I want meat (like a steak), I don't want fish (like cod). If I want fish, I don't want meat.

So no, (to me) fish isn't a meat.

 

[Dapsen]

Well, I've always thought of it likes this: "If it moves by itself, then it's made of meat.".

I have no idea why someone would think of fish as anything else than meat.

 

[Iron Lightning]

I notice that a lot of people don't treat fish as a meat and why is that? I know some vegetarians that eat fish but that is strange to say the least, they became a vegetarian because they think it's cruel to kill and eat animals so why isn't it cruel to kill and eat fish. Is it because they look like they are dead even when they are alive. Also I was up at 4 o'clock in the morning and I saw a program and somebody said "I'm tired of all this meat I wan to have some fish". This has been bothering me for a long time could somebody explain to me why fish aren't counted as meat to some people.

edit: I don't mean fish in dietary terms because there are a lot of nutrient difference from most meat but just in general.

Well ya see sonny, some people are just plain idiots. Not everyone though, some people use "meat" as a slang term for "land-animal meat." This explanation still doesn't make sense for vegetarians who consider fish not to be meat.

It seems less morally justifiable to eat fish than domesticated land-animal meat; since fish populations are being threatened much more than cattle populations.

 

[Spacewolf]

They aren't considered meat in a basic food pie chart (dairy, fat, etc.) But they fall under "Meat, Fish and Alternatives". 'Alternatives' being things like eggs, which will apply to Vegans. As a note eggs appear in other categories too. So they are technically meat, and a pet peeve of my is those that don't consider them meat but call themselves a Vegetarian. Fucking Pescatarian in denial more like. *glares at dad's girlfriend*

My sister calls herself vegetation but eats eggs because there just chicken periods and they would never amount to a living.(idk kinda let her slide on that one because she is right)

According to Catholic law/mythos...God said so.

I'm surprised as to how long it took for someone to give the proper answer.

But yeah, it's that, God said you could it eat on some Friday or something, meaning it wasn't meat (makes no sense to me, but whatever).

OK why would God think that fish isn't meat (or in my few why did the people that wrote the bible think fish isn't meat)

The bible dosen't say fish are not meat. To lazy to look it up but it basically said you will not eat living things on land. Over 2000 years it just got shorted to not eating meat on Friday/Christmas. So thus people think fish is not meat.

it also applys to beavers being classed as a fish so its not exactly a great source of vegitarian advice or even picetarian

 

[Phoenixlight]

that makes sense i guess, however i still don't see a problem with eating meat, i do see a problem with abusing the animals but i mean the word human comes to mind, also abusing them is more trouble than its worth to an industrial company... and most of the animals can't live with out human care, because they are domesticated. however if i thought that they were abused i would be with you forgoing the meat, no matter how much i like the taste of cow. and i think i see where you are coming from with the fake vegi stand... it would annoy me to... i still don't think they are worth getting mad at...

Well everyone has their own thought and feeling about the subject, I just happen to get very angry when people pretend to be something they're not. I've had pet hamsters for quite a long time which may be why I care about animals so much but I respect people who, like you, eat meat but strongly disagree with the mistreatment of animals.

 

[Phoenixlight]

What about eggs? Eggs are basically the chickens to be born baby, so that could count has meat.

I've wondered about that myself for a long time and I think it's probably ok to eat eggs as a vegetarian as long as they're free range. I don't personally like eggs though so i've just avoided them anyway.

 

[Gudrests]

It's a leftover thing from christianity/catholicism. The whole no meat on a friday.
It's a meat.

look up why there is no meat one fridays....its....from what i know..has nothing to do with religion and more with economics

No. Canon law says that all Fridays of the year Catholics can't eat meat.

Im talking about why the law was made. from what i know because everyone was buying cows to eat and the italian(or whoever exactly) 's fishing businesses were doing so bad the pope said. EAR FISH FRIDAYS!!! NO MEAT...and so it was... (not his exact words)

 

[molesgallus]

You live somewhere with a high proportion of ignorant people? The food packing industry doesn't include fish or chicken in the 'meat' category, but the definitely are.