Poll: Why do people think fish isn't a meat?
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Religiously, it's acceptable to eat fish (in the Abrahamic religions, anyway)
I think it boils down to a "It dosen't look adorable/happy/like a living thing, therefore I feel no guilt" type-thing
I think it boils down to a "It dosen't look adorable/happy/like a living thing, therefore I feel no guilt" type-thing
What about eggs? Eggs are basically the chickens to be born baby, so that could count has meat.Phoenixlight said:
its started off a some Jewish loop hole. you cant eat meat and dairy at the same time. so what do we do? we use fish! "coz thats totally different"
i hate my religion, anyone wanna trade?
i hate my religion, anyone wanna trade?
It is meat, but people think that it isn't because they don't feel pain when killed...or something like that, I don't really remember.
It is meat though... >_>
It is meat though... >_>
Mammals do form a bond, because of the pack or herd or whatever interaction. Fish simply are less intelligent that mammals. For example how you say the cat does not bond(which they do, because they think you are their parent and give affection) but comes back to the owner for food and safety, fish do not do that at all. Fish cannot give affection, because their brains are not advanced enough. Reptiles hardly care about their young, and fish especial do not care about theirs.nuba km said:
Selective morality is fun!
Might as well just eat all that yummy meat if you're going to bring in sub-clauses and parameters telling you when exactly it's okay to grab the moral high ground.
Might as well just eat all that yummy meat if you're going to bring in sub-clauses and parameters telling you when exactly it's okay to grab the moral high ground.
Excuse me while I go and water my self-aware petunia bushes.Zeeky_Santos said:
OT: I don't think one should assume a creature perceives something in the same way we do just because it has a brain. As far as we can tell, they are just little robots that are programmed to react to certain stimuli in different ways.
And awareness and self-awareness are not the same thing. I wouldn't have thought that a fish would know it is a fish. A female goldfish in oestrus wouldn't think "oh look, a male goldfish, I should go and lay my eggs next to him for him to spray his seed on, because he's the same species as me." At best, she might think "oh look, a male goldfish. I like laying my eggs next to male goldfish for some reason, so I think that's what I'll do." I would not think that they would be aware of what they are, any more than, say, my PC is.
Self-awareness has nothing to do with the perception of pain, and they do not need to understand what "life" and "death" are in order to fulfill their biological imperative to be successful, to live and breed, any more than a bacterium does.
"Someone more important than you said so." Well that'll do it!SpawnOf84 said:
Personally I consider any flesh of an animal to be meat.
And now I'm hungry.
It's not meat because the Catholic church said so. They also said that the capybara was a fish. No, I'm not kidding.
you need to watch live in cold blood because reptiles especially crocodiles are very protective of their young (except some turtles) and they would give their lives to protect them. some spices of fish hunt flys that live above water and they don't shoot water at the image they see because they know it's refracted but they can calculate in a second how much its is refracted how far away it is were it has to shoot which includes wind speed/direction and drop of water so their brains are advanced. also you don't need advanced brains to give affection affection is an instinct that even dumb animals have. nearly any animal that is born instantly grows affection to the first animal of it's species that it see's (for some it's any animal) it's a basic survival instinct.The Singularity said:
