Poll: Why do YOU hate popular music

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WrcklessIntent

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Ummmmm no.... I like alot of songs that are popular. You might just be looking at the really gay and homosexual ( Yes i needed to say both) pop songs.
Ex of a great rap song that i listen to everyday when i work out.
 

Yureina

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I guess I just think that most music these days lacks substance and is made just for the spectacle or fame rather than trying to say something important or interesting. Still, there is some good stuff to be picked out amongst a sea of mediocrity.
 

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There is simply no meaning behind any of their songs. Nothing except cars, money, and making women look like objects. It's disgusting.
 

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I don't hate it. Once you dig through the crap, you can find some really good songs.
 

himemiya1650

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There's nothing wrong with popular music, except when it's repeating the same words over and over again and it sounds like the track was left on a loop
 

Sakurazaki1023

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While I have nothing against popular music, the culture that surrounds it is full of arrogant and close-minded assholes.

Gangsta Rap is particularly guilty of this. The bitter irony is that the rise in the Gangsta subculture is very harmful to the African American community and supports many stereotypes that I'm sure most people would want to ignore. The massive amount of vulgarity is enough to turn me off to the genre without even having to deal with it's followers.
 

arcticphoenix95

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ALL OF THE ABOVE. I have a radio station here in phoenix: 104.7........and i swear to you with all of my strenght they play THE EXACT 10 SAME SONGS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND AHHHHHHHHHHHH. if i had to guess what they're motto is it's "if it's not lady gaga or miley cyrus or taylor swift it doesn't exist". fuck them........(also, OP nice topic).
 

Alexander Rye

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MrSalamandra said:
Alexander Rye said:
I don't hate popular music, but I resent it. It stops truly talented people from getting out there, and making the money they actually deserve.
But then that talented artist would be popular, and then you'd hate them too. What you should complain about isn't popular music inherently, it would be people liking what you perceive to be shit music. And then that's a taste thing which can't really have a right answer.
That's a very good point, but let me reiterate. There is a lot of popular music that is poorly made. Popular music isn't generally considered to be well made. The lyrics are trashy and the ability to sing is becoming less necessary. It is when untalented people earn more than those who are talented than them, problems start. If you were going for a job, you wouldn't want to be rejected, in favor of a less skilled worker, would you?

I'm not saying popular music is bad or good. As you say have said, music is entirely subjective - And that's what makes it so wonderful!
 

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General Ken8 said:
Having been a member of the Escapist for just over a year, I've loved every minute of it. No forum arguments, all intelligent and funny people, and originality everywhere you look. It's the equivalent of an internet utopia for people like myself.

Since I know for fact that many people on this site have a good taste in music, it pretty much sets them aside from the legions of people who listen to what we consider "popular music." I can't stand what all of these people listen to nowadays, I hate it with every fiber of my being. Instead of endorsing bands or groups of musicians with actual talent, they shell out money for artists with little or no talent and then it gets played over and over again on cheesy radio stations for "cool people" to listen to.

I know, this argument has been pointed out more than almost any other, and it's beginning to have no meaning at all due to mass repetition by the few high school age kids who still strive to find music that they enjoy throughly. According to recent statistics, over 92% of teenage kids listen to rap, hip-hop, or pop.

So, my fellow Escapists, we all know you don't like popular music, but why?
I dislike music if it's bad. I could give a shit who all listens to it.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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I don't subscribe to the theory that obscurity automatically makes something better. Art does not have to be some stuffy dead thing that nobody enjoys but you. It can be accessible. And it can be enjoyed by many people, on many different levels for many reasons.

I think that there is some pop product out there, engineered to be popular, with nothing resembling an artistic intention to share something. I don't think that actually represents a vast majority of pop artists. Even the four that get a lot of radio play.

I enjoy a lot of songs that many people before me have enjoyed. I listen to things that were hits 30 years ago. I listen to 90s music on occasion. (I recently changed my previous opinion that all 90s music was shit after rediscovering some Canadian bands and Jakob Dylan.) I also listen to obscure shit that it seems like nobody's heard of. Anything I listen to, I listen to because I feel it deserves a place on my playlist. (And my dollar. I pay for my music.)

My criteria for what music I like does not take popularity into consideration. People could notice something because it's actually of high quality, or because they're fooled into thinking its of high quality, they could miss a really good song, not appreciate it, or ignore something that actually is total crap. There are so many reasons something could be popular or unpopular. It's ultimately irrelevant.
 

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I only hate it when I'm forced to listen to it. I find most pop songs these days are so bad that they are painful to listen to but I give ém a go anyway. I usually look on Youtube straight away to see what all the fuss is about, unfortunatly I'm always disappointed.

Edit: Sorry, just noticed I didn't exactly give you an answer.

I can't enjoy most of the songs because the riffs and melodics are bland as hell, and I find most of the singers can't even sing and they usually have awful voice to go with it. Frankly I just don't like the sound.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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General Ken8 said:
According to recent statistics, over 92% of teenage kids listen to rap, hip-hop, or pop.
Who says rap doesn't have nuance?

Stock example:

http://www.amazon.ca/Wu-Tang-Manual-Rza/dp/1594480184
Adult/High School-In the late 1970s, Robert Diggs was growing up in a New York housing project. He spent his time with his many cousins and watching kung fu movies in Times Square. Later, he turned his interests in martial arts, spirituality, chess, comics, and rap music into one of the most successful rap groups of the 1990s-the Wu-Tang Clan. Named for a type of Shaolin martial arts, the Clan consists of Diggs-The RZA-two of his cousins, and six other members. The author shares all that went into making the group what it is, a curious mix of Eastern philosophy, supreme mathematics, capitalism, and, not least, talent. Nearly a quarter of the book is dedicated to lyrics, including a deep analysis of what each rapper meant. The Wu-Tang's lyrics are full of violence, drugs, and slang, but also well-executed metaphors, symbolism, and their philosophy realized. It's rare that rap lyrics are given this level of analysis, let alone in such a readable fashion. The book is full of photographs of the members and information about their work and interests, which include drugs, both legal and illegal. Even this topic is treated with intellectual detachment: "You can't say [drugs] are all bad or they're all good." (Sadly, since the book's publication, founding member ODB died from a drug-related incident.) Even though the Wu-Tang's greatest success came in the 1990s, they are still highly relevant and have many teen fans, all of whom will find something appealing in this account.-Jamie Watson, Harford County Public Library, MD
You can't look at something as an outsider and judge it as bad just because you don't understand what they're doing, beyond the surface level. You'd be no different than the anti-games culture that portrays all games as violent clusterfondles of cop-killing and hooker rape.

There's quality rap out there. You're just not able to filter the wheat from the chaff.
 

Robert632

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I like music based on how it sounds to me.If it is popular music or not, I really don't care.
 

Julianking93

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Because most of it sucks.

And it's not even that modern music sucks, most popular music from every era is utter shit.

It's just that modern pop music is probably the worst there has ever been.
 

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incinerate94 said:
Ummmmm no.... I like alot of songs that are popular. You might just be looking at the really gay and homosexual ( Yes i needed to say both) pop songs.
Ex of a great rap song that i listen to everyday when i work out.
Agreed, I'm a metalhead at heart (I'm not absolutely certain that makes sense, but whatever) but I'll certainly admit that there's a reasonable amount of high-quality rap. The genre in general doesn't really do much for me, but songs like "Till I Collapse" and "Go to Sleep" made for great listening in the locker room back when I played football, and I'll still go back to them occasionally.

In general though, a lot of popular music just rubs me the wrong way. A description that I came up with while I was drunk at a party is that the average popular song is "trite, mindless, repetitive drivel, designed with the solitary purpose of hitting the resonance frequency of the feminine ass." Then there's the Disney brigade which is even worse. Ugh.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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Alexander Rye said:
That's a very good point, but let me reiterate. There is a lot of popular music that is poorly made. Popular music isn't generally considered to be well made. The lyrics are trashy and the ability to sing is becoming less necessary. It is when untalented people earn more than those who are talented than them, problems start. If you were going for a job, you wouldn't want to be rejected, in favor of a less skilled worker, would you?
Lack of ability to sing never hurt Bob Dylan.

I think some artists need to be judged for different merits. Some are better writers than performers. Some are better at different aspects of song writing. Some people just get lucky and write something that resonates with the time period in which it is produced.

Some random article I found that vindicates my point: http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/getback/53773/singers-who-cant-sing/
 

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What music you like is a matter of taste.

the above genres mentioned I might not like because It simply doesn't have that feel I get listening to the music I love, which usually comes from the 1980's.
 

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The only music I hear a lot of nowadays is the stuff on Pandora. I don't pay for the music, and all of it makes me happy. There's some popular stuff I like, and some not so popular stuff, but in all, I don't give a flying fuck which is which, all the stuff I listen to makes me feel good. Isn't that the whole point?