Poll: Why does everyone hate ME3 so badly?

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SajuukKhar

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SpiderJerusalem said:
boag said:
Provide examples of each of your statements if you want to be taken seriously.
Seeing as most others have provided sufficient ones, I don't see why I have to reiterate their comments.

The game is all over the place.

The Rachni retconned
The Love Interests
The three endings (regardless of what you've done)
The companions bug
The missing Shadow Broker mission acknowledgements
The reaper base choice is meaningless

Everything that was an important choice in the previous two games is either retconned or devalued into meaningless tripe that is referenced in a passing statement or forced into a conclusion that removes each and every reason to actually play a game series built on choice mattering at all.
Yes because getting different war assets depending on what you did to the reaper base = meaningless?
 

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I love it. I think it's an excellent game. The hate is purely to do with the day one DLC. People seem to think they are compelled to buy something that just unlocks a character and adds one mission to the game. the others hate it because they think its "dumbed down" which is a load of horse crap because ME1 was not in any way, shape or form a complicated game.

PS

I don't agree with the day one DLC or the fact that the DLC was originally a part of the final product but at least EA has the decency to tell us straight up that they are purely a business and that they don't give a crap about customers. At least we will know to keep our guard up when EA is the publisher.
 

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Me3 is a great game but like with DA2 as Bioware fans we expect more than great we expect the best like Mass Effect 2.

Idk to me the game seems rushed, shorter than both other Mass Effect games, less character development, and a retarded ending.

I liked Dragon Age 2's ending better than this crap.

I just feel like with Me3 and Dragon Age 2 going how they went we are seeing the slow decay of Bioware from its relationship with EA.
 

SajuukKhar

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Andothul said:
Me3 is a great game but like with DA2 as Bioware fans we expect more than great we expect the best like Mass Effect 2.

Idk to me the game seems rushed, shorter than both other Mass Effect games, less character development, and a retarded ending.

I liked Dragon Age 2's ending better than this crap.

I just feel like with Me3 and Dragon Age 2 going how they went we are seeing the slow decay of Bioware from its relationship with EA.
Ive been playing Bioware games since BG2 came out, and I can safely say Bioware's writing level hasn't changed at all.

The thing that has changed however are the people, and the way they have changed is that they now have nostalgia.

This nostalgia makes people believe that older games are SOO much better form the new ones even if they aren't.

And every year the nostalgia gets worse and worse, and reinforced by constant self-assurance from the person suffering from it.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
Andothul said:
Me3 is a great game but like with DA2 as Bioware fans we expect more than great we expect the best like Mass Effect 2.

Idk to me the game seems rushed, shorter than both other Mass Effect games, less character development, and a retarded ending.

I liked Dragon Age 2's ending better than this crap.

I just feel like with Me3 and Dragon Age 2 going how they went we are seeing the slow decay of Bioware from its relationship with EA.
Ive been playing Bioware games since BG2 came out, and I can safely say Bioware's writing level hasn't changed at all.

The thing that has changed however are the people, and the way they have changed is that they now have nostalgia.

This nostalgia makes people believe that older games are SOO much better form the new ones even if they aren't.

And every year the nostalgia gets worse and worse, and reinforced by constant self-assurance from the person suffering from it.
This actually makes a lot of sense. I think that the Mass Effect series is actually far better in terms of writing and believable characters than, for example, Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark (the best NWN1 game, in my opinion).
 

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SpiderJerusalem said:
boag said:
Provide examples of each of your statements if you want to be taken seriously.
Seeing as most others have provided sufficient ones, I don't see why I have to reiterate their comments.

because blanket statements hold very little merit, and can be disregard by other blanket statements like "well all your points have been disproved in another post"

The game is all over the place.

The Rachni retconned
i agree, bringing them back if you choose to kill them was a bad move

The Love Interests what about the love interests? please specify
The three endings (regardless of what you've done)This is my principle concern and the one I have been most vocal about, I will infer you mean how the relays get fucked over no matter what.
The companions bug please explain further
The missing Shadow Broker mission acknowledgementsGlyph was there, and Feron gives little tidbits about what happens, during the mission to get the Krogan Females a Yawg escapes and Sheppard comments "There goes the next shadow broker" to which Liara replies "not funny", how is the acknowledgement missing?
The reaper base choice is meaningless I concurr

Everything that was an important choice in the previous two games is either retconned or devalued into meaningless tripe that is referenced in a passing statement or forced into a conclusion that removes each and every reason to actually play a game series built on choice mattering at all.
We seem to agree in more points than we differ, i would ask you to not make more blanker or vague points, because it will only make your very valid points seem worthless and dismissive.
 

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The complains are mostly directed at EA and their DRM and Launch day DLC and various other money grubbing policies. The rest is just butthurt hipsters who automatically write off good games like Mass Effect for being 'mainstream' rather than 'hardcore'.

I do have one complaint though. I have only played the Demo but to me the style was very much like ME2. And though ME2 was definitely good, I preferred ME1's more RPG heavy gameplay.
 
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Realistic criticism is met with cries of "INTERNET HATE"

Saying it might not be as good as the others - "INTERNET HATE"

Getting 4.5 out of 5 - "INTERNET HATE"

Not being Game of the Year - "INTERNET HATE"

And then just being another AAA title held up for the brave decision making of not having any brave decisions to make - while being farmed out to all the people who were going to buy it anyway - and a group of people who are fans of their own Shepard without wanting to acknowledge anyone else's - despite having as much choice as The Warlock of Firetop Mountain.

So yeah, same day, another hyper-defended bland AAA title with pay to play add-ons - slapdashed with bugs, redefines and "THE PROPER WAY" to play.

And because some people, rightly, enjoyed it - ALL CRITICISM IS HATE!!!!!111!

That's why I avoid AAA titles now - because we're going to have at least another 7 of these threads before the month is out. And the same people will bring the same points to the same flamewar every time.
 

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From what I can tell,
A. people have drawn a line a line in regards to DLC,
B. Origin,
C. the endings are really black,
D. it became trendy to despise Bioware after DA2.
 

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they don't? there is general internet rage, and DLC rage, which i think is just people complaining.

then there's the endings, haven't got there myself so i'll judge that when i get to it
 

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by itself, mass effect 3 is a good game

compared to biowares previous work, it's a bad game.
 

J Tyran

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GreenHaze93 said:
Tali's face
Whatever else was going to happen in the release of ME3 the TDF (Tali defence force) where going to rage, at least this way its a genuine reason to grumble. Or maybe an elaborate troll from Bioware, "lets annoy the TDF by using that picture".
 

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J Tyran said:
GreenHaze93 said:
Tali's face
Whatever else was going to happen in the release of ME3 the TDF (Tali defence force) where going to rage, at least this way its a genuine reason to grumble. Or maybe an elaborate troll from Bioware, "lets annoy the TDF by using that picture".
After how BSN and Reddit treated that Bioware employee, I can safely say any troll by bioware was justified.
 

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They don't hate it they just rage at bioware cos that's whats hip right now.
Bioware is the new Coldplay.

(10) Game is AMAZING! Many emotions, many drive. Find story like in Mass Effec!. Find so fantastic emotions! Find so amazing EPIC You can't find it in Skyrim or Amalur. Free world is not better than GREAT story! So many agressive! Why? Gamers, WAKE UP! Stop it. This game survive is better than 5! It is a LEGEND
 

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Zaul2010 said:
They don't hate it they just rage at bioware cos that's whats hip right now.
Bioware is the new Coldplay.

(10) Game is AMAZING! Many emotions, many drive. Find story like in Mass Effec!. Find so fantastic emotions! Find so amazing EPIC You can't find it in Skyrim or Amalur. Free world is not better than GREAT story! So many agressive! Why? Gamers, WAKE UP! Stop it. This game survive is better than 5! It is a LEGEND
BSN would rage if bioware made a game that craped gold bricks for some stupid reason such as the gold bricks aren't shiny enough.