Poll: Why does Sexual Orientation Matter?

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Rottweiler

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Not sure if this has ever been outright discussed:

Why does anyone care what sexual orientation another person is?

I've truly never gotten a straight (no pun intended) answer on this question.

Let's set aside religious fervor- about the only real 'argument' I've ever seen about Homosexuality being 'bad' in any practical sense is a worry that it will affect birthrates in a society, and *maybe* lead to societal shrinkage. And that's kinda weak.

My feeling? Why is *anyone* allowed to judge someone else's personal preferences assuming A) it's consensual and B) not illegal? If someone wants to dislike someone else's hobbies, go nuts. I personally despise 'gangsta rap'. What I *don't* do is feel I have an unassailable high ground to state it's bad and should be done away with.

I personally am heterosexual. That's my feeling and how I roll, as it were. Other people, many of them friends, are homosexual, bisexual, and Other. Not one tiny bit of their preferences affects me in any material way.

Now, one can certainly have issues with the way a person acts in public or how they act towards you- but that is a separate and unrelated issue. I'm talking about the basic, mental fact of someone's sexual orientation. Why does it matter in any way, and why does it matter enough that other people can claim that others shouldn't feel the way they do?
 

madwarper

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Rottweiler said:
Let's set aside religious fervor-
But, if we do that, then there isn't any reason at all.
about the only real 'argument' I've ever seen about Homosexuality being 'bad' in any practical sense is a worry that it will affect birthrates in a society, and *maybe* lead to societal shrinkage. And that's kinda weak.
Given the current global population growth trends, I'd argue that a slowing or even declining of the birthrates would be a good thing.

Consenting adults? Check. Behind closed doors? Check. My business? Nope.
 

Kopikatsu

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The only real issue I see with homosexuality is birth rates. But I see it as a good thing, since more homosexual couples means lower birth rates which is good! 'Cause overpopulation and all that jazz.

On the other hand, more and more homosexual couples are getting artificially inseminated/having a...a...thing. Woman who carries a child for the couple when the couple can't do it themselves/etc So they're not really negatively affecting birth rates anymore. Which is a bad thing; but no worse than what heterosexual couples do.

I personally have an issue with bisexuals, because they steal partners from both straight men and women as well as gay men and women when it's already hard enough to get a date, but that's another story for another day. /Personal bias

TestECull said:
he fuck?! How the hell are they 'stealing' partners? Are they breaking in, stuffing them in their pocket and running off into the night? Are they shooting their way into them?.
Thou sound quite mad. Art thou mad, kinsman?
 

CulixCupric

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TestECull said:
The people who ***** and moan about homosexuality are the people too stupid to realize what other stick their dicks into is none of their business. Level headed people don't care beyond choosing a date.


As for birthrates 'n shit, they're pretty handy. Gay couples give kids a chance at a home they wouldn't otherwise have. Since they cannot have a child naturally, they've got to use other means, and quite a few go the adoption route.
Kopikatsu said:
I personally have an issue with bisexuals, because they steal partners from both straight men and women as well as gay men and women, but that's another story for another day.

The fuck?! How the hell are they 'stealing' partners? Are they breaking in, stuffing them in their pocket and running off into the night? Are they shooting their way into them?


Sense: You make none. Bis don't steal partners. Everyone's got a fair chance at getting one, it's not like Ubisoft or RIAA doles out significant others.
yeah, I'm going to second that. If they willing to go with them, then it's not theft.

On a side note, I don't care what someone's "orientation" is, as no one has the right to judge anyone, as no one sees the entire picture of the universe at large. It's just an excuse for people to feel better about their fear and double standards.
 

Vault101

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it doesnt

some people are bothered/baffled as to how some base their entire Identity on being gay...but other than that theres no issue

DeadSp8s said:
I'm no scientist, but there is something called procreation and I think it's important for some reason..
because gayness is only really a recent thing and hasnt been around since like forever right? and its not like there were civilisations where it was common place right? (greece)

and of coarse the human populations right now are dangerously low right?

AND of coarse theres all that other important stuff...like hunter gathering...working out how to make fire...and fighting off those other tribes which we should really be focusing on thease days.....right?
 

Tharwen

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Yes, if I want to have sex with them. Otherwise, no.

Me posting in this thread isn't exactly helping, is it...?
 

Sandernista

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Kopikatsu said:
I personally have an issue with bisexuals, because they steal partners from both straight men and women as well as gay men and women when it's already hard enough to get a date, but that's another story for another day. /Personal bias
Stealing? What?

OT: Nope, your sexual orientation doesn't matter to me at all. Unless I'm trying to get in your pants.

Also there is no sound argument for the immorality or 'wrong-ness' of homosexuality.
 

SillyBear

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DeadSp8s said:
If everyone is gay, there is no future. If everyone is straight, we're fine.
This is such a moot point I don't know where to begin. It's entirely irrelevant. If everyone was against having children we'd have no future either, yet I don't see any discrimination towards married couples who are either infertile or choose not to have children.

There are 7 billion people on Earth with some areas already over populated. Breeding isn't a problem so I don't see a reason to fuck with the lives of people who don't provide offspring.

OP, no sexuality doesn't matter at all. Homophobia is a logically bankrupt proposition that is spread through ignorance and good old fashioned hatred. Don't bother trying to use logic to understand it - because you wont. It's sheer stupidity.
 

madwarper

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DeadSp8s said:
If everyone is gay, there is no future.
Because it's physically impossible for a gay man to have sex with a gay woman? And, in vitro fertilization doesn't exist?
 

Redlin5_v1legacy

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Why do people care? It kind of lets you know if you could pursue a sexual relationship with the other. Although in straight relationships, it is generally inferred that the other is straight. Personally I'm not obsessed with other peoples sexuality because they can tell me on their own. I might ask if I'm curious. I just don't put SO much importance into sexuality.

Sexuality =/= other person's unique identity.

I do think too many people like to make their sexuality a big part of their overall personality but whatever.
 

Vault101

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DeadSp8s said:
Vault101 said:
it doesnt

some people are bothered/baffled as to how some base their entire Identity on being gay...but other than that theres no issue

DeadSp8s said:
I'm no scientist, but there is something called procreation and I think it's important for some reason..
because gayness is only really a recent thing and hasnt been around since like forever right? and its not like there were civilisations where it was common place right? (greece)

and of coarse the human populations right now are dangerously low right?

AND of coarse theres all that other important stuff...like hunter gathering...working out how to make fire...and fighting off those other tribes which we should really be focusing on thease days.....right?
If everyone is gay, there is no future. If everyone is straight, we're fine.
yeah..............

and if everyone turned into a fish there would be no humans..only fish people

hence fish people are wrong
 

SilkySkyKitten

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DeadSp8s said:
If everyone is gay, there is no future. If everyone is straight, we're fine.
Because of course the population of the world is in such a massive decline, most couples[footnote]The homosexuality or heterosexuality of a couple doesn't matter when it comes to having children, believe it or not.[/footnote] don't want children, and couples who do want children are incredibly few and far between. Humanity is totally doomed.

Oh wait...

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OT: While I guess I can understand how it would matter if you wanted to have a relationship with or just screw another person, in the context of just general everyday life? No, it truly doesn't matter. If someone's straight, oh well. If someone's gay, la-di-freakin'-da. If someone's bi or pan or asexual, not a big deal at all. It doesn't really matter in anything outside of sexual encounters or relationships anyway so why even give a damn for the most part?
 

TehCookie

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It only matters if I'm interested in them. Otherwise I don't see how it would affect anything.
DeadSp8s said:
If everyone is gay, there is no future. If everyone is straight, we're fine.
So what if everyone is bi?
 

exeuntleft

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Rottweiler said:
about the only real 'argument' I've ever seen about Homosexuality being 'bad' in any practical sense is a worry that it will affect birthrates in a society, and *maybe* lead to societal shrinkage.
Societal shrinkage is not necessarily a bad thing... overpopulation is a fairly real concern in some areas. Not that that has anything really to do with the question. :\

I voted "no" in the poll.
 

Tonz of Fun

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Personally, I don't care if anyone is anything. People choose to be whatever they want and if they're happy with it, so be it. I'm not gonna tell a person who's an amazing artist to go to law school so why should it matter if a man or woman wants to be with someone of the same sex?
 

XMark

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DeadSp8s said:
I'm no scientist, but there is something called procreation and I think it's important for some reason..
Well, technically sex-based procreation is no longer necessary thanks to modern technology. I'm sure if some kind of gay epidemic broke out and spread homosexuality to 100% of the population, we could still continue the world's population with sperm donation even after the fabulocalypse.