Poll: Why is "No Russian" so bad?

[Mrkittycat]

I was surfing the web and I found a lot of hate of the level "No Russian" in MW2. Why is it such a big deal? All your doing is mowing down innocent pixels. That's all you do in GTA, so why is it so bad in Call of Duty? Is it because this series has never done anything like this before? Discuss

 

[Curtmiester]

It's not what it actually is, it's what it means. "Mowing down pixels" and "mowing down innocent people" are two totally different things.

 

[Et3rnalLegend64]

It's not bad. It's just that some people don't like how it evokes thoughts of 9/11 or the big terrorism thing going on right now. Of course, they're still overreacting. People who are uncomfortable should skip it like they're allowed to. Little impressionable kids have no reason to even be playing the game if the parents have any shred of sense.

 

[ReincarnatedFTP]

It's because of the ridiculous paranoia regarding terrorism and the GWOT.

In GTA you're just a common criminal doing stuff you see in the movies. But 9/11 was real,Madrid was real,London was real, Bombay was real. Troops are in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I guess an analogy would be if you made a game where you play a guy overthrowing a government in a communist revolution during the 1950s.

That and 24/7 cable news cycles need something to briefly mention and get old people and puritans shocked about.

 

[Deathkingo]

Are you saying that when you hold a controller, you don't mistake it for a real gun!? I must say, I am flabbergasted.

 

[scnj]

GTA is about playing as a criminal so that stuff is expected. In CoD, it's more of a shock.

 

[Cmwissy]

People need to look at the unbelievably smart thing Infinity Ward did with that level.

*cue Peter Molyneux voice* People really connect with the game world - they feel bad if they hurt an innocent; and they want revenge when someone does something nasty.

The whole level was supposed to be an emotional and moral experience; and it was an amazing moral experience - perhaps too emotional for some people.

 

[azncutthroat]

It's a big deal because the game is new, and its really the first time in the whole CoD series that the player can kill innocents, so it's prime game (excuse the pun) for sensational news that want some ratings.

Also, use the fucking search bar. I love MW2, but come on...

 

[BlindChance]

It's ridiculously gratuitous and has little importance to the plot, in the end. It's clear that Infinity Ward shoved it in there purely to generate controversy and publicity. That's why it's so offensive. It's all about context.

 

[Jamienra]

i was playing Mortal Kombat Deception the other day. i punched an old woman in the face and stole her koins. That game got very little flack (cept for Fatalities). The reason it was such an outrage is because they drew attention to it, to get more sales i guess. Also it was really unexpected of "the most anticipated game of the year".

 

[APPCRASH]

I like rationalizing stuff like this too!

 

[Cherry Cola]

It's ridiculously gratuitous and has little importance to the plot, in the end. It's clear that Infinity Ward shoved it in there purely to generate controversy and publicity. That's why it's so offensive. It's all about context.

Well, this.

I don't really see the importance of it. Sure, it could have been there to raise chock-value and show how evil the terrorists are. But they didn't handle it like it was that. They handled it like it was simply controversial stuff for the sake of being controversial and then forgot about it.

 

[The Random One]

It's ridiculously gratuitous and has little importance to the plot, in the end. It's clear that Infinity Ward shoved it in there purely to generate controversy and publicity. That's why it's so offensive. It's all about context.

yes.

I don't feel offended because it's heartless, I feel offended because it's cheap. It tries to pack an emotional punch, fails by a long shot, and pretends it didn't.

 

[Daedalus1942]

I was surfing the web and I found a lot of hate of the level "No Russian" in MW2. Why is it such a big deal? All your doing is mowing down innocent pixels. That's all you do in GTA, so why is it so bad in Call of Duty? Is it because this series has never done anything like this before? Discuss

I had fun in that bit. There was a woman trying to protect her child and she screamed as i plugged her in the head. Funniest thing I've seen in a long while.

 

[Ancientgamer]

Because pragmatic ethics and intrinsic moralism are so diametrically opposed that they seem to be proof of their own falsehood as far as each side is concerned.


TLR, you're narrowminded and your poll is stupid.

 

[Supreme Unleaded]

It's only as bad as you make it to be. You can just go through the whole level without shooting your gun, not kill anyone and just watch the slaughter. It was made for the player to hate the terrorists on a personal level, however i also do think that it was created to get more media attention then god.

Both of them are true, we all know it.

Plus you can, you know, skip the damned mission and the game warns you twice that its disturbing content.

EDIT: You do have to kill the police once they arive, but you DONT have to kill any civi's at all, you can just walk through that part of the mission.

 

[Joe Matsuda]

me, being the "very good karma" gamer i am, played the level just fine without shooting any civilians

i only quit when they forced me to kill the cops...the hardworking keepers of peace...

they shoundnt have made police officers enemies in my opinion...thats why i dont like no russian

 

[john_alexander]

The controversy didn't affect me at all; it certainly wasn't THAT horrific. It was unsettling, and that was the point, but it wasn't horrifying. There are many things wrong/stupid about that mission, but the mass murder isn't one of them.

 

[ReincarnatedFTP]

People need to look at the unbelievably smart thing Infinity Ward did with that level.

*cue Peter Molyneux voice* People really connect with the game world - they feel bad if they hurt an innocent; and they want revenge when someone does something nasty.

The whole level was supposed to be an emotional and moral experience; and it was an amazing moral experience - perhaps too emotional for some people.

Really? I guess that was the intent, to show how awful terrorism really is. However, the amazement wore off after the first three seconds of opened fire. I was more intent on making sure people were dead, like the stragglers on the floor.

It's ridiculously gratuitous and has little importance to the plot, in the end. It's clear that Infinity Ward shoved it in there purely to generate controversy and publicity. That's why it's so offensive. It's all about context.

Yeah, but it's like a troll. Why would you bother taking the bait if you knew otherwise? You're just playing into their hands. And I think it was a half-assed attempt at shoving the message "This is how awful terrorism is" into the game while being "edgy". Sort of like "Nukes are bad" and they used the full death of the soldier in MW1.

 

[orangebandguy]

Are you saying that when you hold a controller, you don't mistake it for a real gun!? I must say, I am flabbergasted.

Well, sometimes I pretend my 360 controller is an MP5 during loading screens. Maybe that's just me.