Poll: Why the hate for Dragonforce?

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tsb247

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I think a lot of the hate comes from that fact that Guitar Hero really brought them to into the forefront of people's minds. The whole, "It's that damned song I can't seem to master on expert! IT SUCKS!" mentality.

Really though, I dunno... I can't form much of an opinion because I have not heard enough of their music.
 

Biek

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I voted good. I really dont know much about dragonforce but all I know is that playing 'through the fire and flames' in the background will make almost anything you do epic. Like yakety sax makes stuff funny.
 

PhantomCritic

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I don't understand the hate entirely either, but I think it has something to with the fact that nearly every single song they play sound almost exactly like Through the Fire and the Flames, thats what it was for me anyhows.
 

Fraught

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TheNecroswanson said:
Through all their skill, they have no talent.
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*PS. I hope they die.

arc101 said:
I like them, but they are sold under false pretenses, using Esticato to make it sound like they are playing faster than they are, and also use keyboards that sound like guitars... and also, guitar hero kinda made people think it was harder than it is.
What does The Darkness have to do with this!?
Wasn't it Jackie Estacado? I could be wrong, though.
 

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BLS said:
They're good, not great. Crazy sick solos for 4 minutes leaves me like okay... where did the song go. They're quite good songs but they seem to overstay their welcome for me. For those of you who think it's just insane power metal, listen to down over a new world, not the same as the rest, probably their best song and incidently their shortest. So overall, a good band but the solo's are too long and crazy.
If it had Axl Rose singing it might be alright.
 

Lexodus

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TheMushroomClub said:
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People only know them because of guitar hero. That's why I hate them. Seriously, would you know Dragonforce if it weren't for Guitar Hero???
Yes.
Would you have listened to them???
Yes.
My point is, the majority of people wouldn't.
My point is, I would have.
 

TheMushroomClub

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Lexodus said:
TheMushroomClub said:
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People only know them because of guitar hero. That's why I hate them. Seriously, would you know Dragonforce if it weren't for Guitar Hero???
Yes.
Would you have listened to them???
Yes.
My point is, the majority of people wouldn't.
My point is, I would have.
Despite all of this, they can just move their fingers quickly, the music they create is horrible, and they really suck live. Plus, nearly every song they've done is about 7 minutes long.
 

Fraught

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TheNecroswanson said:
Fraught said:
TheNecroswanson said:
Through all their skill, they have no talent.
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*PS. I hope they die.

arc101 said:
I like them, but they are sold under false pretenses, using Esticato to make it sound like they are playing faster than they are, and also use keyboards that sound like guitars... and also, guitar hero kinda made people think it was harder than it is.
What does The Darkness have to do with this!?
Wasn't it Jackie Estacado? I could be wrong, though.
Shush. You're ruining my fun.
Oops, sorry. Carry on, carry on.
 

Jharry5

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Their music is pretty repetitive. All their songs sound similar. That's my main problem with them. The fact that all of their songs are written to show off their talent speed just seems soulless in my opinion.
Also, I've heard that they can't play their music live... I'll reserve full judgement until after I hear them. I love live music; the thought that they can't play live is a bit perplexing.
But as I said, I'll wait til after I hear them live...
 

Valkyira

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The majority of people who like them only like them because of the song on Guitar hero 3. And all their songs sound the same, just mindless noise
 

Ghost

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i hated them, but i saw them live and i'd be lying if i said they suck.

sure they ain't as good as Helloween (pre deris, I'm a kiske and Kai fanboy!) or Stratavarious or most other 'true' power metal bands, but they're fine live...

you need to remember, 90% of people bad mouthing them heard of them off guitar hero, and only know that one fucking song... and probably badmouth them because either the song was too hard or someone told them they speed up the music ( i lol hard at people who think the keyboard player is playing a guitar as well...)

9% of people who hate them are fans of emo, nu metal, metal core, shit core etc (i dunno what they're all called)

only 1% of people who hate them actually can point out the reason they dislike them is because they use repetitive power chords and simple blues scales, which they seem to play fast in the hopes that no one will notice that's what they're doing.

it's fine to dislike a band, but don't be such a tit to acually look up bands you don't like on youtube just to say 'LOL DIS BAND IS SHIT SLIPKNOT 4 LYF HURR DURR' and stuff to that effect.

oh yeah and guitar hero is shit, i bought GH3 then gave it to a friend shorty after... what garbage, why waste hundreds of hours playing it when you could learn to play actual guitar in less time than that? i mean really, i don't see how it's addictive or fun, but w/e floats your boat, i pretty much just play fps player so i wouldn't know much about games like GH or rock band...

1 more thing: lets not forget, Dragonforce are a speed/power metal band, they are meant to have lyrics about dragons and castles and shit... and the music IS meant to be very fast, although they do speed up their solos in the albums. And yes they can play their stuff live, very well infact, it sounds much better, my only complaint is the vocalist (ZP) uses many effects on his voice live, which seems kinda pointless tbh lol.

so ya no complaints from me as long as a load of Dragonforce clones do not appear... i think they're fine in their own way, far from my favourite band, but still alright... and since everyone around here loves power metal so much, thoughts on Polaris? I thought it was better than the recent Strat albums, but nothing compared to the 90's albums like Visions

EDIT: and no i am not a power metal fanboy! i obviously enjoy helloween and such (KOTSK) but i only dabble in that sort of thing, death metals where it's at, hence i have Chuck as my avatar...
 

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-Orgasmatron- said:
BLS said:
They're good, not great. Crazy sick solos for 4 minutes leaves me like okay... where did the song go. They're quite good songs but they seem to overstay their welcome for me. For those of you who think it's just insane power metal, listen to down over a new world, not the same as the rest, probably their best song and incidently their shortest. So overall, a good band but the solo's are too long and crazy.
If it had Axl Rose singing it might be alright.
Axl Rose is a great singer and all but he would probably drive all the other members away and get all new ones so they wouldn't be the same band anymore, take 13 years off and bring out a new album with loads of hype that ends up awful... not that he hasn't done that already
 

Enigma Syndrome

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All they have going for them is fast.

And Herman isn't even all too fast considering they've deliberately sped up the sound in their studio albums. Go look up people who actually play at insanely fast speeds like Petrucci, Vai, Gilbert and the like. Even then, it's not just strumming a guitar as fast as you possibly can, they add technicality to it, and it makes Dragonforce look very very mediocre.


EDIT: If you just cant live without speed on guitar but you can't stand Dragonforce, just go look up Michael Angelo Batio. He plays a left-handed, right-handed guitar at the same time for Christ's sake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb5QaCfm7bg

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