Poll: Will you opt out of the Sony Class Action Lawsuit?

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Custard_Angel

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Nah.

I don't believe in using the law system as an offensive weapon.

I'm fully comfortable using it to protect my own shit, but as far as going out of my way to piss on other people, I ain't comfortable with that.
 

EMFCRACKSHOT

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depends if i have to pay to join it xD
its gonna be a right pain in the butt getting all my card stuff in order, and sony's claim to have notified psn users immediately is a load of bunk. (The article stating that was posted in the early hours this morning on the escapist, and i only received notification directly from sony 3 hours ago when we found out over a day ago, yeah thats real immediate).
If i can join it without having to pony up a load of ash then sure i'll join it but otherwise its more hassle than its worth
 

emeraldrafael

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No, there's no point to, and if you're so bothered that you cant to a simple call to your bank and card company, then you're clearly in need of more help then this lawsuit will give you.

I mean, this is why I have insurance on my identity.
 

Custard_Angel

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Jodah said:
I hope the judge takes one look, laughs, and throws the case out.
Yes... because in these days of widespread technological enlightenment and complete media blase towards identity theft, there's no chance Sony could ever get in trouble for keeping records unencrypted and evidently unsecured.
 

UmbrellaAssassin

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Hiphophippo said:
VikingSteve said:
You can't sue them over the PSN outage. They have a contract clause that states the PSN is provided as-is. Voted no. It's pointless.
You know what you CAN sue them for? Them letting my personal information be stolen. The notion of someone suing them for the reason you stated is ludicrous.

Yes. Yes, I will.
Ya lets sue a company for something that they couldnt prevent. Ya cause I'm sure they "LET" the hacker just take all the info right?
You have no right to sue. No one does.
I would understand if they did something so the hacker could get the info, but they did what they were suppose to: they shut off the servers when they noticed it was getting attack.

So lets I leave my phone at your house and someone comes in and robs you and takes it can I sue you for letting him take my phone?
 

Azure-Supernova

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Hiphophippo said:
Who' responsibility is it to keep that information secure exactly? I gave it to them, should they not be held accountable for it's safety?
You give them that information to keep secure, but you also knew the risks involved in providing information over the very vulnerable internet. It's like getting injured on a roller coaster because unauthorised personnel fiddled with the machinery and then blaming the theme park.

To a degree yes they should be held accountable; but in their defence there's no such thing as airtight cyber security.
 

Hiphophippo

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UmbrellaAssassin said:
Hiphophippo said:
VikingSteve said:
You can't sue them over the PSN outage. They have a contract clause that states the PSN is provided as-is. Voted no. It's pointless.
You know what you CAN sue them for? Them letting my personal information be stolen. The notion of someone suing them for the reason you stated is ludicrous.

Yes. Yes, I will.
Ya lets sue a company for something that they couldnt prevent. Ya cause I'm sure they "LET" the hacker just take all the info right?
You have no right to sue. No one does.
I would understand if they did something so the hacker could get the info, but they did what they were suppose to: they shut off the servers when they noticed it was getting attack.

So lets I leave my phone at your house and someone comes in and robs you and takes it can I sue you for letting him take my phone?
I'll accept this logic when you prove that they couldn't prevent it. I'm willing to wager you have little clue how Sony secured my personal information.

Am I wrong? Do you? Truth is, I entered an agreement with them. They broke it.
 

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-Seraph- said:
No, I'd rather not contribute to this problem and resolving the issues surrounding this whole debacle took me 10 minutes. I'm getting a new credit card in a week, and changing my password takes no time at all. While Sony does shoulder some of the responsibility regarding this whole mess, there should be greater focus towards finding the ones responsible for this instead of pouring gasoline onto the fire.

Until this whole situation pans out, I am not going to out right scold Sony and hold them entirely responsible like too many people are doing. I want all the facts and information before I jump to any sort of conclusion.

I just find the attitude some people have towards all this crap absolutely cringe worthy. There is so much stupid in a lot of these news threads and the trolling is off the charts. I thought more people would be more mature and well informed about all this, but I'm naive for thinking that highly of people in these sorts of situations.
agree with this, how can you blame someone for being outdone? Many people only see it one way - sony failed. Maybe the hacker succeeded. I wanna see what happened before i take a stance and then on top of that id rather live with sony than without so im not going to work against that i.e. not going to sue. Its a bit weird anyway

Plus i arranged to buy a ps3 the other day and i'd kinda like PSN to be online by time i get it..

Whats the chance of sony actually going down due to this would anyone know?
 

Hiphophippo

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Azure-Supernova said:
Hiphophippo said:
Who' responsibility is it to keep that information secure exactly? I gave it to them, should they not be held accountable for it's safety?
You give them that information to keep secure, but you also knew the risks involved in providing information over the very vulnerable internet. It's like getting injured on a roller coaster because unauthorised personnel fiddled with the machinery and then blaming the theme park.

To a degree yes they should be held accountable; but in their defence there's no such thing as airtight cyber security.
Obviously you're right, there is no such thing. I'll be frank for the sake of this thread...

Sony lost a shit load of trust from it's user base because of this. I would truthfully rather this case not even go to court. In a perfect world Sony mans up to it's mistakes and does it's absolute best to make it's users feel safe and wanted. This is the ideal way to resolve this and I hope that's what happens.

Worst case scenario and we continue to hear about information well after the fact, (and note, there are likely well more PSN users who do NOT know they have been compromised than do. Did Sony let them know? No.) then the law suit becomes needed.

But I'd rather it not happen.
 

Squeaky

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I hate the sueing culture as most do it to cash in rather than make a point. So i dont care and aint joining in.
 

Azure-Supernova

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Hiphophippo said:
Obviously you're right, there is no such thing. I'll be frank for the sake of this thread...

Sony lost a shit load of trust from it's user base because of this. I would truthfully rather this case not even go to court. In a perfect world Sony mans up to it's mistakes and does it's absolute best to make it's users feel safe and wanted. This is the ideal way to resolve this and I hope that's what happens.

Worst case scenario and we continue to hear about information well after the fact, (and note, there are likely well more PSN users who do NOT know they have been compromised than do. Did Sony let them know? No.) then the law suit becomes needed.

But I'd rather it not happen.
I still haven't been personally notified. I only know because of the Escapist so I'll tell anyone that claims they let their users know ASAP to fuck off. I too would rather this not go to court, but it feels that Sony are getting lynched from every direction for something they couldn't have forseen (unless they have a psychic in their security team, in which case fuck Sony for keeping psychic security a secret). But as it stands if they recover their security will be getting not only a once over, but as many examinations as there are examples of Portal references.
 

Nieroshai

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FUCK. NO.

What part of "they got hacked after Anon screwed with their systems leaving them vulnerable" do NONE of you understand?
 

x-machina

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Theres a very good possibility my credit card has been compromised, And even if nothing really happens. It is still a huge pain in the ass, to cancel my credit card, order a new one, change all of my passwords etc.

So, if the opportunity presents itself of course I'll join the lawsuit. When I gave PSN my credit card, it was under the pretense that they had competent security measures in place.
 

Funkysandwich

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thepyrethatburns said:
Y'all realize that, if you have a PSN account, you've been automatically named as plaintiffs, right?

You actually have to contact the court and go through the legal paperwork to opt out. (I did so on the PS2 DRE case and it was a pain.) If you don't actively opt out, you will be considered a plaintiff. Usually, the notice of legal action that you get details the onerous process of how to opt out.
Isn't that just US citizens though? I don't think the US courts have to power to make PSN users in other countries plaintiffs.
 

XandNobody

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It depends. If it is found out that the breach was due to negligence on Sony's part? You bet I will.

If they got hacked by a super hacker man who broke even their "worst case" security measures? Meh, not their fault, so no.