Can you elaborate? To my knowledge it isn't technically possible to be text-book asexual, meaning reproduces without a partner and the child only inherits the single parent's genes.
So I take it you didn't pay attention to the subject matter of this thread at all.
We're talking about the nonsexual kind of asexual. Not the textbook biological definition.
That's nice but then you guys might wanna work on your terminology... as that's a completely false use of the term. Also, yes, I did stop reading to post that before reading farther into the post.
I wouldn't, while sex isn't the most important part of a relationship for me, it's a close second, it's still there for a reason.
darkorion69 said:
I am tired of the new gender terms...there is just no end to the political correctness there, but anyway...
I date people I am serious about getting to know deeply, and I am an adult. Adults have sex as a part of a mature relationship to share intimacy (some wait for marriage even.) Why would I want to date someone who has and never will have any interest in sharing sexual intimacy with me? Shouldn't they look for another asexual person and just let me be there friend?
I don't believe for a second that sex defines a relationship. All sex needs to happen is physical attraction. A relationship is an emotional bond.
That being said, not everyone could date a person knowing that sex is never an option. At least these people are being honest about what they want.
I personally have a high sex drive. But I still value the person more than the sex. On the other hand I would probably have to try out the relationship first. I don't honestly know weather or not I could stay with someone and deny myself such a basic human need. Its not like I have ever tried it before as to have a frame of reference.
1. The condition or fact of being related; connection or association.
2. Connection by blood or marriage; kinship.
3. A particular type of connection existing between people related to or having dealings with each other: has a close relationship with his siblings.
4. A romantic or sexual involvement.
I was basically going to say the same thing as you. Just replace "she liked me" with "they liked me" since, being pansexual, I can be with anyone and everyone.
Also, I have dated an asexual person. I didn't mind that.
Yeah, I've rarely found an avatar that better reflects my personality. I love May! Who else could make friends with someone by letting them eat her arm?
Asexual doesn't mean they never have sex. It just means they don't desire it the way most people do.
So you could have sex with an asexual, they're just going to be underwhelmed by it.
It's a tough call. On the one hand, sex isn't everything to a relationship. On the other, it is very important to most people. You can say that it would be unfair for a sexual person to expect their asexual partner to have sex, but wouldn't it be just as unfair for the asexual one to expect their partner to refrain from sex as well?
Personally, I think it would take a very specific pair of people to pull off a sexual/asexual relationship. Either they're both going to have to be ok with having sex anyway, or they're both going to have to be ok with the sexual one having a lover on the side. I can't see a sexual person being happy in a completely sexless life, otherwise they'd be asexual as well.
If she was had the characteristics I was looking for in a girl, then yes. If we really wanted a child, we could get a surrogate for that. Sex is nice but not everything.
Bisexuality means that you can be attracted to and can be with a male or a female.
Pansexuality means that you can be attracted to and can be with a male, a female, a transgender person, a hermaphrodite and whatever else there might be that I don't know the name of.
Umm... so you're asking if I would date a person that isn't attracted to me at all? The answer is no. Hell no. You see, there's this thing I have. I like to call it self-esteem. It results in me desiring relationships based around mutual attraction. Well, actually the self-esteem bit just results in me wanting the other person to be attracted to me. It's the not being a raging douche-bag that results in me wanting to be in a relationship with someone I find attractive, because it's a total dick move to deign to date someone you feel is below you and then spend the rest of your life lording it over them.
I'm sure there are some awesome asexual people out there, and I'd gladly be friends with them, but I'm not going to get into a monogamous relationship with someone that doesn't want sex. What would be the point? What's even the appeal? The whole idea basically just boils down to being somebody's friend and then promising to never have sex. That's dumb. Well, unless you want to have sex anyway, and having sex with someone that doesn't find you attractive is even dumber.
Yes, I could see a romantic relationship working even without sex, actually I had a previous relationship with an asexual girl when I was younger, she was a sweet one though.
I wonder how many people who claim to be "asexual" actually are? Like those kids who go through that confused stage, and claim to be bi sexual/gay, when really they are just confused by the fact that they can actually show appreciation for attractive people of the same sex? I've also noticed (on this site, and in real life) a LOT of "asexual" people seem to be nerds and suchlike.
I just want to throw this out there, that having bad/no sexual experiences, or having a deep resentment of attractive people, doesn't necessarily make you asexual...
Disclaimer: I'm not pointing out any individual, or anyone specifically on this thread or site. Just interested in the actual number of asexual people. Someone earlier said that 1% of the population was asexual, and I'm certain that's a vast exaggeration.
How many asexual people have you actually talked to? Asexuals are as human and as diverse in their interests as everyone else and you might want to do a bit of research before generalizing and stereotyping us into a derogatory category. You might want to go to the AVEN forum itself, it's one of the larger places for asexuals to chat and debate on the web. I happen to be an artist, a philosopher, an avid weightlifter and cyclist, and absolutely nuts about my project car.
Asexuality is lack of sexual attraction, nothing more nothing less. I know I am asexual from my experiences and intuitive feelings, I have never felt sexually attracted to anyone, including a person I fell in love with, there was never a thought nor a desire to ever "jump her bones" so to speak.
The 1% estimation is based on a very old study called the Kinsey report (old enough that it was old when George Bataille talked about it). Obviously it is not going to be an even distribution throughout the population, as some areas will have more asexuals, with some having less, there's no real efficient way to determine the actual number right now. Some people are even indifferent about their lack of sexual attraction to anyone that they don't notice it unless the conception of asexuality as an orientation is introduced to them, so they might not identify as asexual.
IamQ said:
Perhaps. But I'm aromantic, so I'll probably never know.
I've seen this term being bandied around, so I looked it up. It showed on Wikipedia like this:
Asexuals, while typically lacking in sexual desire for either sex, may engage in purely emotional romantic relationships.[19][20][21] Terms concerning this:
aromantic: lack of romantic attraction towards anyone of any gender
biromantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) of either gender
heteroromantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) of the opposite gender
homoromantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) of the same gender
panromantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) of any gender or lack of gender
transromantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) of variant or ambiguous gender
polyromantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) of more than one gender or sex but without implying, as biromantic does, that there are only two genders or sexes
Romantic attraction and sexual attraction are never necessarily the same. I am a hetero romantic asexual, hence, I am romantically attracted to the opposite gender (I do indeed 'fall in love', for the layman). Aromantic people do not become romantically attracted to any gender, often their relationships stay fairly platonic. It is quite possible to have homoromantic heterosexuals or hetero romantic homosexuals (which could account for some people who identify as bisexual, and even aromantic sexual people as well. It really depends on the person, human sexuality and gender are very diverse. Many people often use their own combination of romantic attraction and sexual attraction as the norm (hence all the people believing a relationship requires sex as well as love when it doesn't have to be the case). Why they do that is a whole other bag of worms with metaphysical and psychological implications that I don't want to get into right now (suffice to say it would require a lot of writing and I'm busy with essays on Hegel and Foucault right now).
LightspeedJack said:
Hahahahaha is this even a question?
COURSE I FUCKING WOULDN'T! I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but we all have the need for sex, it's a human need just like hunger and to downright deny those urges when it's with someone you love and are confortable with is just fucking creepy.
And all of you people saying your Asexual: being asexual and being AFRAID of having sex are two very different things. You may not be ready for sex just yet but like I said before, everyone has lust...even Jesus.
Not everyone has a need for sex, full stop. I do not, never have, perhaps never will, and there are plenty enough people around that will say the same. It would be best if you didn't go around assuming the rest of overall Reality catered to your particular perspective and situation. It comes across as offensive, and oppressive.
Also, to finish off this post, someone had asked about masturbation and asexuality. There is a difference between the action of sex and sexual attraction. A graphic example is rape, the victim is usually not sexually attracted to their attacker during the act. Some asexuals that I know have said that the moment anything enters their mind during masturbation can often turn them off completely. Some asexuals become really bored during sex, and some just enjoy the feeling. Some others have sex simply to please their partner. One does not have to be sexually attracted to someone for their genitals to function like everybody else's. Asexuals just don't have the drive or desire to use them with anybody else, we're not sexually attracted to anyone.
I think the problem that lies here is that people absolutize asexuality, believing that every sexuality has to be some perfect absolute ideal of an entire person when it really isn't the case, human sexual diversity is just too incredibly vast to put everyone into tidy little boxes like that. Each sexuality concept is more or less a generalization with a single common trait that is shared amongst the group. In the case of asexuality, it is the lack of sexual attraction. That's the only thing that distinguishes asexuals from people of other orientations.
To get back to the original topic, yes, I wouldn't mind being in a relationship again, especially with another asexual. Not right now though, I don't have the time, I've got so much stuff to do in my life on my own before I want to share it with someone else.
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