Poll: Would you kick a puppy?

[Zorg Machine]

Rule 1 in how to succeed in life: don't be a dick.

I wouldn't kick a puppy for any price because it would make me a total asshole.

 

[Falconsgyre]

You kick my puppy and you're going down.

Seriously, I don't get why people are pissed by the poll. I put up a disclaimer saying I'd never actually ask someone to do it, and I personally think it's far too trivial a reason as well.

I guess you missed my footnotes, eh?

Hey, I don't want to get kicked either.

 

[Wolf-AUS]

Sure, for five bucks. No matter how cute it is, and the picture is cute, it's just an animal. I would have no problem doing it. I wouldn't want to drop kick it over a fence, or kill it, but a solid kick would be fine.

I'm pretty sure you just failed humanity, hey?

 

[AlexNora]

hypocrite

you say they feel pain but then you would turn around kick a person that also feels pain

animals are nothing any human is far more beautiful than a stupid dog

and that person that would kick the dog would not be insane or cruel he'd be 15 dollars richer and possible have a small meal.

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You know why I would kick the person?
Because they should understand that what they did was wrong and greedy. They have potentially ruined this puppy's life with serious injury (that can be up to 15 years of suffering, and for a dog that is always loyal to a good owner, and lives to enjoy life and run full speed ahead all the time, a crippling injury is as bad as it gets) for $15 F---ing dollars?

The person was a greedy bastard and deserves to get the kick in return, the puppy does not know greed, evil, right or wrong. Animals don't understand these concepts, we do. But that does not make them stupid, it does not make them unable to feel pain, unable to suffer or understand that it is getting hurt by the one who kicked it.

So just because you have an advantage in size and intelligence you should injure and take advantage of this puppy to get, of all things, richer?

Humans are always more beautiful than stupid dogs?
Humans can be cruel, evil, greedy and many more. Animals are pure, they do not understand, or need to understand these things, and to injure one for such a trivial reason just goes to show that you are, at the very least, greedy and slightly uncaring.
How people treat animals is a good indicator of how they would treat other people if they had such an advantage over them, it shows how caring you are to those lower in the pecking order than yourself. And from this I can say that I am glad you have no power over me.

prove its wrong to kick a puppy don't just say it is. it is not wrong to kick a puppy or kill a duck to... I don't know stuff it, or grind up a cow for a hamburger, or use animals in medical test to save a human life or to just to test stuff.

humans are more beautiful then animals, "even the naiz's where cute when there where little you know, why cant they stay small but ..."

Prove you have read my post before replying.

"Animals don't understand these concepts, we do. But that does not make them stupid, it does not make them unable to feel pain, unable to suffer or understand that it is getting hurt by the one who kicked it.

So just because you have an advantage in size and intelligence you should injure and take advantage of this puppy to get, of all things, richer?"

If that to you does not make it wrong, then you are someone on the selfish to psychopath spectrum.

I am okay with using animals for food or to save lives, but not for the purpose of making money (ie: cosmetic tests, you have prisoners for that), entertainment (hunting) or just cause (stuffing it, also falls into money).

Yeah, but the nazi's grew up to be evil, genocidal bastards, the puppy won't, no animal will. Their moral simplicity is what makes animals beautiful, they do what they must to survive, they do not cause harm they must not, they have no need for laws or politics that change. If that is not beautiful, then nothing is, no system ever will be.

I really don't care that you think animals have intelligence (witch they don't they have instinct nothing more)but by your logic even the ones we eat should have intelligence and killing them should be wrong. no its not for food its for money think about all the food that goes to waste in the US. you gonna cry about that to? kicking a dog is like kicking a brick the only reason you might not do it is because you could hurt your foot. don't let the cuteness of a puppy stir up your emotions and cloud your logic.(and yes I do think puppy's are cute)you clearly place the idea of a dog higher then me, and instead of using logic to try and win your argument you go around trying to insulting/hurt me. make better choices become a wise person kill the animals save the babies!

I bolded the part of his argument that really has weight against any possible reasoning you could lobby for hurting an animal for no just reason. Survival is a different matter entirely. $5 or $15 is a stupid reason to seriously hurt anything; whether it's an animal or person is irrelevant.

You're also reading far too much into his statements. Nowhere did he say that animals possessed intelligence. On the other hand, they do, just not in the same capacity as we do. They're primarily instinctual, but look no further than the way a lot of carnivores hunt for some good examples of animal intelligence at work. Just because we operate on a completely different level, does not mean animals are devoid of all intelligent thought.
And really, who are the stupid ones? We trudge to work every day to keep a roof over their heads, put food in their bowls, and just generally love the ever-living out of them. Sure, they're loyal, and they love you, and Mr. Whiskers is just so adorable, but that's a pretty one-sided deal. Especially when it comes time to clean the litter box/back yard.

what if you need the 15 dollars to survive?

lol are you trying to prove me right? I don't work for a dog, own a dog, and don't spend money to take care of one. but i find the fact that some people do interesting and not at all bad or stupid (they can be useful tools)in and of itself but you better treat you kids better then that stupid animal.

do rememberer I said people are more beautiful not that animals are not, there cute little food stuffs them animals.

i also find it interesting that the very fact they asked the question deserves reprimand. you don't have to kick the dog for 15$ dollars, but does the person asking you to really deserver to be kicked possible even killed by you just for asking you to? some of the post i'm reading seem to think so.


but I understand you all have some form of attachment to animals and it blocks your logic (im sounding pretentious)

but im done for tonight its 3am and im getting sleepy and confused (im not sue if my post make scene anymore)

 

[Falconsgyre]

You forgot to put the option "No, it's not morally acceptable to hurt an animal." because some people wouldn't hurt animals, trivial reason or not.

(please no one beat me with sticks for saying that.)

That's what the "trivial reason" thing is trying to get at. There are some situations in which it is definitely okay to hurt an animal, such as in self-defense. Very few people would disagree with that, so I felt it wouldn't be worth it to include an option for that.

Fair enough, but I know there are people who would consider cows being slaughtered for food a trivial matter.

Yes. Some people. I, uh, definitely don't know anyone who thinks like that very personally.

 

[theguiltyone]

Adding to the chorus of people who would kick the person soliciting animal abuse.

And who want to kick the people who said they'd hurt that sweet thing for a mere $5.

 

[Cheesus333]

I genuinely don't know why anyone would kick a dog for that amount of money. It would take a hell of a lot more than approximately 8 or 9 quid for me to hurt a baby dog. And even if it were in the thousands I'd feel terrible about it.

 

[Prince Regent]

No.... I'd eat one though.

 

[manic_depressive13]

No I wouldn't. Not for $5 or $15. If they offered me more money, though, I'd punch them as hard as I could straight in the nose.

And there should be a "No, because hurting animals, for any reason other than in self defense when genuinely fearing for your life or that of a loved one, is disgusting" option.

 

[Vern]

No, as much as I would like to dropkick some of the dogs I've met, I wouldn't. They're just dogs, they do what dogs do. The bark, they can bite, they can also lay on their backs and love rib scratches, ear scratches, back scratches. They can also shake hands and stand up, lay down. If you have a shitty dog, odds are it's the owners fault for teaching them to be shitty. Dogs have their own personalities, and genetic traits, but those only go as far as what the owner lets them get away with. If the owner teaches a doberman from day one that it's not okay to maul children, it probably won't. If the owner teaches a poodle from day one that it's okay to go for a child's jugular, it probably will. If you see a shitty dog, kick the owner, not the dog.

And honestly, I've never seen anything cuter than a German Shepherd puppy. I'm a guy who thinks baby alligators, turtles, snakes, and bearded dragons are some of the cutest things in the world. But German Shepherd puppies are adorable.

And I wouldn't kick it for money. I can tell right now, that if I was given a million dollars for kicking a puppy with a steel toed boot I would regret it. I didn't do anything to deserve the money, I didn't work for it, all I did was curb stomp an animal. Every night I would go to bed with that, and every day I couldn't enjoy the money because I would know I didn't deserve it.

 

[Carboncrown]

I'd kick the person offering the $5.

In the throat.

 

[Corporal Yakob]

$15!?! Score!

 

[RanD00M]

Spoiler: From 0:00 to 0:48 pretty much explains it all.

I would never kick a dog, even if it were annoying or trying to bite me or something. I love dogs too much to bring them pain without reason. Sure, I have cause my dog a bit of pain but only as discipline.

 

[rmb1983]

i also find it interesting that the very fact they asked the question deserves reprimand. you don't have to kick the dog for 15$ dollars, but does the person asking you to really deserver to be kicked possible even killed by you just for asking you to? some of the post i'm reading seem to think so.

They're extrapolating on the hypothetical situation of someone coming up to you, cute pet in tow, and saying "$5 to kick this puppy." The bolded portion of my last quote is the reason behind wanting to kick the person, instead. How someone treats pets is a good reflection of how they treat others, in general. You may not know the puppy, or really give a damn about it, but are you seriously going to abuse it for $5? Or even $15?
If $15 for abusing an animal is going to guarantee your survival, you really have some a) skewed priorities
and/or b) need to think of some sound logic as to how that person's survival is really worth that animal's livelihood. $15 can be stretched out for some use, despite how little money it is, but in the long run, if $15 is going to save you from death at that very moment, you're not going to alleviate the situation for very long.

but I understand you all have some form of attachment to animals and it blocks your logic (im sounding pretentious)

That doesn't sound pretentious, just ignorant. The only thing that defies logic is causing serious injury to some other living, breathing thing for a measly $5-$15.

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

Fuck-to-the NO. I love dogs, why would I harm something so happy looking and furry?

 

[Togs]

Its not ok to hurt an innocent animal for such a trivial reason.

But if the thing was humping my leg or had crapped in the house then Id boot the thing.

 

[Nightvalien]

i would for free and i have done so, in my defense tho the thing was sniffing at my shoes.

 

[SonOfStayPuft]

My Dog is sat on the couch behind me and I just looked at her and thought "I could never ever hurt you" I mean, when I accidentally stand on her Paws, I feel bad a little.I laugh at the yelp a little. but still feel guilty.

I know one thing.If I saw someone kick my Dog, then they'd get the biggest dropkick in the throat and then get punted in the head, Randy Orton style, but with my Steel Toecaps on and i'd actually make contact.

If my Dog was attacking me, and I mean, really going for it, trying to bite me, even though she's a Patterjack (This is a pic of her incase some of you don't know what a Patterjack is) then yeah, I'd have no choice but to punch her in the head or something to get her off me.I'd hate it, but i'd have to do it.