Poll: Would you resolve your origin?

[mstot]

Sounds redundant to me, since the immortal version of me would just stop me from resolving my origin since he wants to finally die.

 

[Necrofudge]

Well, would you agree that there are only four hypothetical options.

1: Time travel is impossible.
2: There is a causality force that will 'act' to prevent changes.
3: Whatever will happen, or you want to happen, has already happened.
4: You can in fact, kill your grandfather.

would you agree?

Yeah that sums it up nicely

All right then. I'll go through each possibility:

1. Pretty self evident, and increases the shame I should be feeling for writing this shite out.

2. I'd like to see this causality force in work, wouldn't it have to be somewhat conscious? Chronos perhaps? Maybe the greeks were right and Zues is mad at us whenever thunder strikes...

3. I'd like to believe that we have free will and everything isn't predictable and causally created, that would be a pretty lame universe, but its possible, and probably likely.

4. This happens to be what i believe. Theres no reason why you should presuppose that matter has an intrinsic history of causation that has to make sense.

Well for the second one I would disagree that it would have to be conscious. I think it would work in a cosmic sort of way relating to all that physics stuff. Like if you travel in time you screw up all the electrons and protons and it has to balance out and whatnot and this happens by making you get vaporized in a blast of light or something.

 

[grimsprice]

Well, would you agree that there are only four hypothetical options.

1: Time travel is impossible.
2: There is a causality force that will 'act' to prevent changes.
3: Whatever will happen, or you want to happen, has already happened.
4: You can in fact, kill your grandfather.

would you agree?

Yeah that sums it up nicely

All right then. I'll go through each possibility:

1. Pretty self evident, and increases the shame I should be feeling for writing this shite out.

2. I'd like to see this causality force in work, wouldn't it have to be somewhat conscious? Chronos perhaps? Maybe the greeks were right and Zues is mad at us whenever thunder strikes...

3. I'd like to believe that we have free will and everything isn't predictable and causally created, that would be a pretty lame universe, but its possible, and probably likely.

4. This happens to be what i believe. Theres no reason why you should presuppose that matter has an intrinsic history of causation that has to make sense.

Well for the second one I would disagree that it would have to be conscious. I think it would work in a cosmic sort of way relating to all that physics stuff. Like if you travel in time you screw up all the electrons and protons and it has to balance out and whatnot and this happens by making you get vaporized in a blast of light or something.

Fair enough, i can't say anything past what my take on it would be, and after hearing yours i'd say that would be cool. You know, the whole exploding light thing. If it is true hypothetically speaking, i can't fucking wait for the scientists to explain that one to the general public... lol

" um, yeah, we just um, verified a math proof that means if you travel back in time you risk being deleted by 'causation', but if you don't mess around to much you should be fine." lol.

 

[Anarchy In Detroit]

No. If I could go back in time I'd be too busy chilling with my Steppe Nomad ancestors seeing what it's like pillaging weaklings for a living in between frothy mugs of... horse milk. Ehhhh... mmmmm?

Basically I would go back in time and just see my ancestors as far back as I could manage to go. Think of the historical research you could do! holy balls!

 

[Kuchinawa212]

Sure what the hell right? If I'm back in time, that means they are dead already in the present.

 

[JanatUrlich]

lol I loved Rant <3 Too bad Chuck Palahniuk's novels went down the fucking shitter after it

OT: Yes I would

 

[Natsuhiko]

Ok, this is a little obscure, but I just read the novel "Rant," dealing with time travel and such. So my question to you is, if you could, would you resolve your origin?

For those of you who have not read the book, resolving origin means going back in time and killing your mother, or some other ancestor, before they give birth to you. This removes your origin makes you immortal.

Also, I'm not here to discuss the mechanics of it, i'm here to discuss the morals.

Well you cant really discuss anything of it, it just doesn't make sense how it would make you immortal, there are no morals since it has no thought behind it, its illogical.


The reason this can't happen is because if you went back in time, and you tried to kill some one or do anything out of the historical timeline you would either

A. be cast into a differant universe (based on the multiverse theory were there are infinitally many numbers of universi, were lets say you walked left on a path on your universe, in another universe you walked left, any variation that is possible actually happened, just in another univers, like nazi's winning ww2.) you would simply end up in another universe altogether.

B. theres no possible way to change the past even if you could be there. You would either end up helping along the normal processes, or you simply would not beable to kill someone, even if you tried to shoot them point blank, somthing at some time would stop either you or your bullet from shooting who ever it was you were trying to shoot in the past.

Yeah the idea that becoming immortal after killing your parents is retarded first off, due to ABSOLUTELY NO BASIS, and it's just stupid. Try thinking of somthing abit more logical

Sigh....
The point isn't whether of you killed you parents you would be immortal. I didn't wite the novel. The point is: If you could become immortal by killing one of your parents, would you? That's the moral issue I was interested in.

 

[Jaythulhu]

Ehhh, the very concept sounds like it would cause a temporal paradox that would inevitably shred the fabric of the universe. Not make someone immortal.

More pondering gives me this as the most likely outcome:
You vanish as the universe problem of you being around now you can't be born.

 

[Jaygee02]

I wouldn't murder anyone for anything. I think I'd avoid going to the past, there's so much potential to do drastic damage.
The future however... fun times.