Poll: Would You vote for Obama again?

[scotth266]

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I honestly love our media. They've promoted the man to be the Second Coming or something, but it's all really a great facade to mask the simple fact that nothing has changed really save for whose ass gets kissed in the White House.

My dad watches stock analyists jabber on endlessly, and it's incredibly amusing. When he was pointedly asked how he was going to dig us out of the hole that was General Motors, our fair President did what every politician before him has: he dogded the question by throwing up meaningless facts and figures. It's incredible to see this is ALLOWED anymore. Why doesn't he just honestly say "I don't know?" and admit that this is a new situation for everyone?

Watching debates is pointless, and knowing what the candidates stand for is becoming increasingly so due to the amount of flip-flopping and pandering that political candidates can get away with. It's like watching a filibuster in action whenever a debate is brought up: neither side offers up solutions, and instead proceeds to glouriously proclaim that they have the best one (when in fact they both have BAD ones. For instance, abortion: it's just a case where there its a lose-lose if you support an extreme, but no-one has the balls to bring forth a middle ground.)

It really doesn't even matter much anymore: as you said, the inevitable power switch will occur when the Dems piss off enough of the public with the same vacant promises that the Reps made before them. "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help!" Yeah, right.

 

[y8c616]

Based on his fly swatting skills alone, he's worthy of another term. I would vote for him if i lived in the US

 

[Robin_Lyon]

Hello,

My Name is Robin,

I live in New Zealand.

At the end of last year I moved to America where I lived for several months and so was exposed to all the presidency coverage we wouldn't have normally gotten in New Zealand (which I have since unwillingly moved back to).

I give the short background to qualify my opinion.

I think Obama's great and if I had a greencard I would've voted for him. The man speaks like the leaders that lead the older world into equality and other great things, I don't just mean the WAY he speaks, but the things he says. Now I know what you can say to that, Hitler was a good talker too they say, but I do believe in Obama's sincerity. Maybe that just means he's got me fooled, but I really think he can get the flagship nation of the world off its suicide course over the waterfall.

But like a lot of people have said in this thread, it's too early in his candidacy to say much about him; Obama has 8 years of political mess to sort out. Imagine, if you will, that somebody spent 8 years tangling balls of cotton thread together into knots. EIGHT YEARS WORTH OF KNOTTED STRING. And now Obama has to untangle it all before he can use it to knit a pretty sweater for the American people. That doesn't happen fast.

Oh and one other thing, here in New Zealand our election year happened to fall on the same time as USA's (our election year is every 3 years) and I found it hilarious. See, John Keyes won our election this year but NOBODY give a rat's furry arse because everybody was too busy partying about Obama getting elected. The news airtime we had about the American president completely shuffled Keyes outa this spotlight in his own country. Hilarious.

And there were billboards all over saying "Obama for king!"


Yaaaaay King Obama!



Cookies and cudos for people that actually bother to read my long windedness

 

[Brett Alex]

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In reality, you cannot solve all of our problems at once. That's just not how it works. But since Obama promised to do just that, and he wasn't tied to Bush in any way, he won the election.

Can I see the quote where he promised to do just that?

Separate question:

Why doesn't he just honestly say "I don't know?" and admit that this is a new situation for everyone?

Can you not see the answer to that question?

 

[Zamn]

This is a classic example of too many options on the poll making it unhelpful. For this poll to be useful it should have had two options: 'yes' and 'no'.

 

[Skeleon]

I'm not a US citizen but I would've voted for him if I was.
And I'd still do it today.
As it stands, my answer for this poll had to be "Dont live in US, and can not participate in poll".

 

[OriginalError]

And I hear a lot of people complaining that Obama hasn't delivered on the Gay Rights issues, I think it's a matter of flexibility. The Republican party makes up close to half of the nation. And they are rabidly anti gay. So far we (Democrats) have pushed the Republican party very far very quickly in a lot of different aspects.

We try to find compromises that they will agree to because when we push something little through, say bailing out a company, they begin shouting about Secession. Yeah, the governor of Texas started publicly contemplating secession over economics. Could you imagine if he pushed them on gay marriage and gays in the military at the same time?

Even before he started doing anything they accuse him of being a secret muslim and the Anti-christ and a Socialist. A lot of the lunatic fringe seem to be calling for his assassination. He hasn't even done anything but they HATE him in ways that are scary to see.

I don't think we can afford to move too quickly right now. First fix the wars and try to get out of the recession. Then once the god botherers lapse back into complacency we can move on to social issues. If we press them too hard they will snap.

Well, the socialist part is true, but other than that you're looking at lunatic fringe groups. It doesn't matter what kind of president is in office, there are lunatic fringe groups on both sides (I believe at one point Bush was some sort of Super-Nazi sent forward in time by Hitler in order to bring about a Fascist state in America? I'm sure someone believed it).

That being said, most Republicans aren't rabidly anti-gay (some are, to be sure). Really, though, saying that is just about as unfair a generalization as saying all Democrats are insatiable baby killers or saying that on the rare occasion that Democrats don't kill their offspring, they become scions of the welfare state.

Obviously it's a gross oversimplification of policies. It's a lot easier to argue on silly social issues without regard to fiscal issues (which right now is what something like 80% of America thinks is more important) because on most social issues the Republicans are more than a little off kilter.

//J.

 

[Stevedave00]

Yup

I prevented Palin from getting into office, I can live with that till the day I die.

Me too.
God that lady was scary.
Don't forget She can see Russia from her house

 

[TwistedEllipses]

Can we leave it till the end of the term before having this poll?

Most things don't happen overnight...

 

[Skreeee]

1) Depends on the next few years. I'm not going to be an idiot and base my decision on the first few months of his presidency.

2) Depends on who ultimately ends up running against him. If it's Palin, then I'm definitely voting Obama again. (This of course would mean that the Republicans couldn't find at least one guy who is a little less batshit insane than her, which is unlikely...I hope).

 

[Oisnafas]

Eh. I've lost faith in all politicians. They all suck, and even if they didnt, one or two decent ones wont make a difference.

 

[Shaoken]

I want a president who will be outspoken in support of gay rights, I'm sick of this wishy washy shit he's been pulling.

Look at the aftermath of the Civil War. Lot's of legislation was put in to protect Black people, and it ended up causing a lot more resentment and generally things took about a century to get better. Obama can put a bill into Congress to legalise Gay Marriage, and by some miracle it may pass, but that'll only increase homophobia because suddenly he's steped over State Rights (a pretty big area of debate in most countries) and piss off those religious types who think Gay Marriage will bring about the apocalypse (no, really.).

The solution is to not be outspoken, the solution is to work subtly to change people's opinions on the matter until they want (or at the very least aren't opposed) to Gay Marriage. Look at my country; a few years ago ACT legislation to legalise Gay Marriage was shot down twice (one time after inactment). Now 60% of Australia thinks we should have it. I say that Obama should back off a little bit, work on small changes to nudge the US towards nation wide acceptance of Homosexuals. He's already said that the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy and "Defence of Marriage Act" will both be removed during his term. Those are some serious steps. The legal battle over Propisition 8 will continue because neither side won last time; Marriage in California is legally between a man and a woman, but all Gay Marriages preformed before NOvemember 4th 2008 are still valid. Meanwhile other states in the union are moving to legalise it.

Change is coming, give it time.

Incidently anyone who thinks that Obama can fix all of the US' problems in 8 years is a moron and needs to accept that it takes a lot more time to fix things then it does to break them.

 

[NeutralDrow]

Incidently anyone who thinks that Obama can fix all of the US' problems in 8 years is a moron and needs to accept that it takes a lot more time to fix things then it does to break them.

That's a good point. In fact, there's someone else prominent who's said that before (hint: they're in the highest executive office in the U.S.). People don't seem to pay attention, though.

 

[Malevolent Stranger]

He's managed to throw the Americans (UK ftw) into 11 tril. dollars worth of debt with our good friend George W.

Source: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

 

[BigCat91]

Well don't you think that all of these are pre-judgments, i mean it hasn't been a fucking year since he was voted in. He's got more than 3 years left and it's obvious all of his plans are long term. All the problems are not a one year fix for all we know getting back to normal might take 16 years to fix. I know you said the scenario is that there is no problem with the other candidate but isn't that more of a defense for Palin. She said she is going to run in 2012 and she will be the republican candidate because of the sudden boost in voting when she joined. Really I know I'm defending Obama and I probably will be the only one because no one has the patience anymore due to the troubled economy. But please take this into consideration that its not even one year and these are tough problems that economists don't even have a clear idea to fix. I mean pumping money into the banks did nothing but give money to people who ran with the millions they received in bonuses.

 

[hippykiller]

Obama is a evil piece of crap that claims to be a good Cristian when in reality he is nothing more than a still evil baby killing piece of SHITE! oh and his pastor or whoever the hell he is, and his vice pez are COMMUNISTS!

 

[Golden Gryphon]

As an American citizen living in England it is mostly just nice not to have to be ashamed of my country any more. It isn't perfect but compared to what I imagine McCain and Palin would have been like and since I have no plans to live there ever again I'm pretty content to let him finish his four years.