Poll: Would You Vote For the BNP?

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EchetusXe

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cuddly_tomato said:
There is no immigration issue.
That is absurd. 10% of the population were born outside of the UK.

You can claim that there is no immigration problem, but as long as there are territorially based countries immigration will always be an issue.
 

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No and never. I refuse to support a fascist/racist party under the control of a complete moron who is blinded by ignorance. The day Nick Griffin is Prime Minister is the day that I'll wipe my ass with the British flag.
 

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Oh, god no.
Not even if Nick Griffin made any sense at all would I do it as he still looks fat and evil.

What makes me sad is that my Dad might just because he believes Griffin's lies about them being a non racist party who only want to organise immigration. My Dad is usually intelligent and this makes me VERY sad.

So in short:

[HEADING=2] Nick Griffin is a fat, evil, twisted, mega arse. [/HEADING]
Yeah...my mum might end up voting for them if they stand in our area *sigh* she believes all the shit on TV and in the papers about how immigrants are 'overruning the country' and 'how the British will be wiped out', etc, etc.
Yep, your mum is basically my dad in female form.
 

cuddly_tomato

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EchetusXe said:
cuddly_tomato said:
There is no immigration issue.
That is absurd. 10% of the population were born outside of the UK.

You can claim that there is no immigration problem, but as long as there are territorially based countries immigration will always be an issue.
What difference does it make where they are born? They live here. Someone who makes a big thing about where someone else was dropped out as a slimy, crying, mess, decades ago (as surely objecting to kids is too much even for these racists) is someone with more issues than a Marvel fanatic.
 

EchetusXe

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cuddly_tomato said:
EchetusXe said:
cuddly_tomato said:
There is no immigration issue.
That is absurd. 10% of the population were born outside of the UK.

You can claim that there is no immigration problem, but as long as there are territorially based countries immigration will always be an issue.
What difference does it make where they are born? They live here. Someone who makes a big thing about where someone was dropped out as a slimy, crying, mess, decades ago (as surely objecting to kids is too much even for these racists) is someone with more issues than a Marvel fanatic.
Well depending on how you handle the issue of immigration then that figure could be 1%, 2%, 20%. Who do you grant British citizenship to? Who do you not grant British citizenship too?

It is an issue to those 10% who were born abroad because if someone like Griffin was elected then they wouldn't be here now. It is an issue for those born in the UK because it effects the British economy for better or worse, the British culture and society for better or worse.

Everything is an issue. Guns are an issue. I would argue that guns aren't a problem at a national level because only a tiny minority have access to guns. I don't think immigration is a problem. But immigration affects the average British person a lot more than guns ever will.
 

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EchetusXe said:
cuddly_tomato said:
EchetusXe said:
cuddly_tomato said:
There is no immigration issue.
That is absurd. 10% of the population were born outside of the UK.

You can claim that there is no immigration problem, but as long as there are territorially based countries immigration will always be an issue.
What difference does it make where they are born? They live here. Someone who makes a big thing about where someone was dropped out as a slimy, crying, mess, decades ago (as surely objecting to kids is too much even for these racists) is someone with more issues than a Marvel fanatic.
Well depending on how you handle the issue of immigration then that figure could be 1%, 2%, 20%. Who do you grant British citizenship to? Who do you not grant British citizenship too?

It is an issue to those 10% who were born abroad because if someone like Griffin was elected then they wouldn't be here now. It is an issue for those born in the UK because it effects the British economy for better or worse, the British culture and society for better or worse.

Everything is an issue. Guns are an issue. I would argue that guns aren't a problem at a national level because only a tiny minority have access to guns. I don't think immigration is a problem. But immigration affects the average British person a lot more than guns ever will.
Source of this 10%? Because according to the census, just under 8% of people where non-white, and there was no figure given on first generation immigrants versus the ones born here.
 

cuddly_tomato

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EchetusXe said:
cuddly_tomato said:
EchetusXe said:
cuddly_tomato said:
There is no immigration issue.
That is absurd. 10% of the population were born outside of the UK.

You can claim that there is no immigration problem, but as long as there are territorially based countries immigration will always be an issue.
What difference does it make where they are born? They live here. Someone who makes a big thing about where someone was dropped out as a slimy, crying, mess, decades ago (as surely objecting to kids is too much even for these racists) is someone with more issues than a Marvel fanatic.
Well depending on how you handle the issue of immigration then that figure could be 1%, 2%, 20%. Who do you grant British citizenship to? Who do you not grant British citizenship too?

It is an issue to those 10% who were born abroad because if someone like Griffin was elected then they wouldn't be here now. It is an issue for those born in the UK because it effects the British economy for better or worse, the British culture and society for better or worse.

Everything is an issue. Guns are an issue. I would argue that guns aren't a problem at a national level because only a tiny minority have access to guns. I don't think immigration is a problem. But immigration affects the average British person a lot more than guns ever will.
It doesn't effect the economy or the society. Economically, they arrive and they bring new skills to a community. They also bring consumption. For all the talk of them draining our resources, how many work for the hospitals? How many work in our local shops? How many have opened their own small business in the form of restaurants and take aways? That all generates taxes.

Not only that, but they all have to eat. They all need water and electricity and food and petrol and TVs and cars. They spend a lot of that money on goods made in the UK.

Socially, there is absolute zero issue. This "Islamification" crap is exactly that - crap.
 

Doug

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Also, if we're to get rid of all these foreigners, only the people of Wales and Cornwall would be left - given the bulk of the population where, if not from German tribes, at least breed with them at some point in the family tree. And that was before the Vikings nearly wiped out the whole of the Briton kingdoms. And then of course, those descents of the Normans.

Oh, and I completely forgot about the age of being apart of the Roman Empire, and hence having foreigners from across the whole of the Empire here, as traders and/or soldiers.
 

EchetusXe

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Doug said:
Source of this 10%? Because according to the census, just under 8% of people where non-white, and there was no figure given on first generation immigrants versus the ones born here.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/apr/01/immigrationpolicy.immigrationandpublicservices1

There are a lot of white immigrants to the UK you know?

cuddly_tomato said:
It doesn't effect the economy or the society. Economically, they arrive and they bring new skills to a community. They also bring consumption. For all the talk of them draining our resources, how many work for the hospitals? How many work in our local shops? How many have opened their own small business in the form of restaurants and take aways?

Socially, there is absolutely zero issue. This "Islamification" crap is exactly that - crap.
1.5 extra million over the past ten years does have quite a significant benefit on the economy.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/eu-migrants-good-for-uk-economy-1759279.html

The migrants who came from eastern Europe to live and work in Britain over the past five years have made a positive contribution to the public purse, research reveals.

"From the fiscal point of view, this immigration has not been at all a burden on the welfare system. Rather, it has contributed to strengthen the fiscal position,"
You can't claim that immigration has no effect at all. Nobody will pay attention to you. And if you are arguing in favour of immigration the showing it has a positive effect is better than arguing its effect is neutral.

Also a quick note on society; chicken tikka masala is apparently Britain's most popular dish. Perhaps even invented in Britain. When a British born white person of British descent chooses a meal he has the choice of the best foods from all across the world. That is another example of a positive affect immigration has had upon society.
 

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No, not even if I lived in Britain.

1)They're fascists.
2)They're racist.

Antifa might not be all that mature, but it's not like the BNP doesn't deserve the hassle.
 

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I would obtain UK citizenship for the sole purpose of voting against them, to tell the truth. I'll avoid the poll, per your request, though.
 
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I would (and have) gone much further than simply 'Not Voting'. The real problem is not how many vte for them, it's how many people sit by and watch. I marched in several anti-BNP rallies around the time of the EU Parliament elections. I'm still undecided as to the best party to vote for, but I will vote for someone in order to keep them out.

We can't just not vote for them, we have to be active, and vote to keep them out.
 

Doug

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If you really need a reason to not to vote BNP, skip past this video to about 2:04 and read the closing statement - including the part about telling a recent war veteran to 'fuck off' cus he objected to being on their pamphet.

 

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PayJ567 said:
MelasZepheos said:
I would (and have) gone much further than simply 'Not Voting'. The real problem is not how many vte for them, it's how many people sit by and watch. I marched in several anti-BNP rallies around the time of the EU Parliament elections. I'm still undecided as to the best party to vote for, but I will vote for someone in order to keep them out.

We can't just not vote for them, we have to be active, and vote to keep them out.
Ok im gunna say something, they are NEVER going to get into power, its just everyones so scared of such an eventuality that it seems so bad that even a party like this exists. You can't force a party to stop being a party, Thats what the Nazi's did. They will NOT get into power i can stress that enough.
Please, do not invoke the Nazi's to demonstrate how the BNP (a fascist political movement which seeks to ethnically cleanse the UK) is being oppressed. The fact they are even picking up any votes is worrying. It might encourage more extreme elements of the Conservatives or even Labour to take a stand against this "Islamification" wank they are going on about.

Griffin goes on about how we are traitors to the UK, I propose that he and his followers are the true traitors. I want to be proud to be a British citizen, I want to love my country, I can't do that if we are being inhospitable dicks to people who come here. He is the true traitor.