Poll: You and a friend are Mountain Climbing (Moral Dilemma)
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if by friend the OP meant BEST friend(for me that'd be my buddy Gary) I'd try to pull him up and fail(because he weighs at least 20 pounds more than me) we both fall to our deaths and we'd both have a laugh(or he'd get in the last word) at my stupidity before we hit bottom
"Either the both of you die, or just one of you dies."
Apparently, you haven't been on the Escapist that long.
Apparently, you haven't been on the Escapist that long.
cut the rope, say my friend died fighting a Russian on a bear armed with an AK-47(the bear or the Russian, you decide) and tell the tale of him, instead of no one knowing what happened to either one of you and your family thinking that you will be back soon.
Cold? Yes.Blatherscythe said:
Logical? Also yes.
I probably wouldn't live, but I'd be less squished, I think.
Most people would likely say they'll do the heroic thing and try to save their friend despite the risk to themselves, hell even I like to think that I would try. But when it comes down to it, it's basic human instinct to save yourself, as fear sets in and you panic as to what will save your life. Most people who say they'd save their friend would cut the rope if the odds where so bad, this includes myself who despite liking to think otherwise realistically has to speak true to the odds.
It's kinda like saying if there was a zombie Apocalypse theory going around the room and people talk about what'd they's do, and people say they'd go gung hoe and charge the horde to save their friend them or give up and let them eat them, no, that wouldn't happen. First time you see a zombie your going to piss yourself and run like hell, unless you have a gun in which case you'll shoot it and run like hell. Even later on you'll never allow it to eat you alive, you'll do yourself in rather than suffer the pain of being cannibalized.
Again the whole point is, not matter what we say, no matter what we think, unless we've seen in these situations or have been trained otherwise (and even then nothing is guaranteed) you're more likely to end up saving yourself than your friend as the panic sets in.
If you want to be heroic, it'd be much easier to be the person on the other end, injured on top, conscious fellow on bottom. In which case you can cut the rope killing yourself and give you friend the chance at life. Granted you'd probably regret it every terrifying second until you hit the ground, but again it'd be easier in that situation to be the hero.
It's kinda like saying if there was a zombie Apocalypse theory going around the room and people talk about what'd they's do, and people say they'd go gung hoe and charge the horde to save their friend them or give up and let them eat them, no, that wouldn't happen. First time you see a zombie your going to piss yourself and run like hell, unless you have a gun in which case you'll shoot it and run like hell. Even later on you'll never allow it to eat you alive, you'll do yourself in rather than suffer the pain of being cannibalized.
Again the whole point is, not matter what we say, no matter what we think, unless we've seen in these situations or have been trained otherwise (and even then nothing is guaranteed) you're more likely to end up saving yourself than your friend as the panic sets in.
If you want to be heroic, it'd be much easier to be the person on the other end, injured on top, conscious fellow on bottom. In which case you can cut the rope killing yourself and give you friend the chance at life. Granted you'd probably regret it every terrifying second until you hit the ground, but again it'd be easier in that situation to be the hero.
Cut the rope, I have no true friends, if they were given the option they would of cut the rope as well.
In my life, I have learned that when people's brains come into play, things fuck up.grimsprice said:
Like the value of a human life.
It varies from person to person more than CosX.
I think that you should try to save him, but if it doesn't look like you could get him up in time, ask if he's OK with dying, and if he is, cut it.
If not, then jump, and try to catch up with him.
I'd definitely try to save my friend. How would I know it would kill me? I can't live with the fact that I saved my own ass at the cost of my friend's.
Once again, our feable emotions are proven wrong by the cold hard logic of SCIENCE!grimsprice said:
Neither! Kill them and eat them before this incident occurs. I like my mountain climbing to be a solitary activity.
thats ridiculous I would never be caught dead moutain climbing I would shit my pants on the first few feet. If I was in that situation I would try to save him, can't imagine a world without my best friend. Though if he was the one who conviced me too go moutain climbing and brought us in that situation I would cut the rope for being a dick and dragging me up there.
I would call upon the emergency rescue services to pull us out on a chopper. That's right, I'm too happy right now to take this seriously.
I'd cut the rope to ensure they're not actually attached to me, but I wouldn't let them fall immediately.
I'd grab the rope with one hand, cut it, make sure I'm as secure as possible, and either:
Try to haul them up with both arms if I'm secure enough to do that without falling off the ledge.
Or
Hold onto something with my free hand, to stop myself falling, and hold onto the rope for as long as possible, hoping that my friend will be able to help themselves by climbing up the rope or grabbing some handholds.
Also, if I was going climbing like that, I'd go pretty well equipped, so I'd try to use one of those "rock spike" things, a hook or pick/ice axe, and hammer or wedge it into the ledge and try to tie the rope off on there.
Once I'd tried and failed at all of the above, and my grip on the rope finally gave out, I'd let them drop.
I'd grab the rope with one hand, cut it, make sure I'm as secure as possible, and either:
Try to haul them up with both arms if I'm secure enough to do that without falling off the ledge.
Or
Hold onto something with my free hand, to stop myself falling, and hold onto the rope for as long as possible, hoping that my friend will be able to help themselves by climbing up the rope or grabbing some handholds.
Also, if I was going climbing like that, I'd go pretty well equipped, so I'd try to use one of those "rock spike" things, a hook or pick/ice axe, and hammer or wedge it into the ledge and try to tie the rope off on there.
Once I'd tried and failed at all of the above, and my grip on the rope finally gave out, I'd let them drop.