Not trying to offend anyone here or anything, but isn't the thought that we're alone kinda ignorant? I mean, the universe is relatively infinite, so how would it make sense if life was only on Earth?
Poll: You believe in life beyond Earth?
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Considering the number of Earth-like planets that Kepler has already found in it's rather short search of the galaxy, I am optimistic about complex life on other planets.
I mean, since there's organic matter just floating out there in the cosmos in absolutely staggering amounts like, for instance, that massive cloud of drinking alcohol which would last earthlings for billions of years, wouldn't it be a shame if no-one but us could get tanked on it?
Perhaps we won't find that UFOs are aliens (they're time travelers, I'm sure of it!) and perhaps the only life we find under the ice of Enceladus will be the lonely bug in the submersible we send, but if it's possible, and we know it is (vis a vis, Earth), it has to exist somewhere else too. Or maybe we are just ABSURDLY unlucky. That would be one hell of a torment, to be the ONLY life ANYWHERE. Chances are low on that, methinks.
I mean, since there's organic matter just floating out there in the cosmos in absolutely staggering amounts like, for instance, that massive cloud of drinking alcohol which would last earthlings for billions of years, wouldn't it be a shame if no-one but us could get tanked on it?
Perhaps we won't find that UFOs are aliens (they're time travelers, I'm sure of it!) and perhaps the only life we find under the ice of Enceladus will be the lonely bug in the submersible we send, but if it's possible, and we know it is (vis a vis, Earth), it has to exist somewhere else too. Or maybe we are just ABSURDLY unlucky. That would be one hell of a torment, to be the ONLY life ANYWHERE. Chances are low on that, methinks.
Allien life is a statistical fact. Apart from being a statistical fact, I think it might be a proven fact. Didn't they discovered some phosiles on some astroid or something, it was in the news a while back. Just saying. Nobody got excited about it and with good reason really. The phosiles were just of microbes, and more important things were going on.
There are two people in this world.
People that already know that some kind of allien life must excist somewhere, and perhaps even intelligent life.
And those who refuse to believe it, unless we ever made contact.
Personally I believe that contact should be able to be made within 100 years or so. I'm pretty sure that if I ever had kids they would life to see the day. All we need to do is send out a few signals and wait for a response. Of course we're not going to understand each other, and we won't ever meet face to face. But we ought to get a response at least.
There are two people in this world.
People that already know that some kind of allien life must excist somewhere, and perhaps even intelligent life.
And those who refuse to believe it, unless we ever made contact.
Personally I believe that contact should be able to be made within 100 years or so. I'm pretty sure that if I ever had kids they would life to see the day. All we need to do is send out a few signals and wait for a response. Of course we're not going to understand each other, and we won't ever meet face to face. But we ought to get a response at least.
I believe there are other lifeforms out there in outer space since I'm not that self center to belive that we are in the center of the universe and we are alone.
The probability of our planet being the only one, IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE, that supports life is so low you cant distinguish it from a 0% chance. There are just too many other bodies out there that could possibly be able to support life. Now, I really have doubts as to whether we will find them in any of our lifetimes, but I do believe eventually we will.
I think you're not optimistic enough. You're assuming that life can only exist on earth-like planets.Velvo said:
I have always heavily disagreed with that notion. Most of all the possible lifeforms that we know off can only live on earth. But who is to say that there aren't many other possible lifeforms? Life wants to be, we see this everywhere on earth. Even in the most impossible conditions we can find some bizare kind of life. Most people tend to forget that when talking about allien life.
I know nothing lives on Mars, but I'm also convinced that somewhere there is a lifeform that could perfectly survive on Mars.
If there is life out there, I think i'ts more Alien/Predator than Close encounters of the third kind.
No reason to have benevolent beings in the universe, and if there is life out there, what would be their opinion of humanity if we met? They'd have had to travel millions of light years most likely to just reach a trace of humanity, and then, what have we done in compare in space? Walked on the moon a few times. Compared to another species travelling across the planet of the universe to earth from their homeworld, our achievements are like someone walking to another room of their house and making a big hoo-hah about it.
Yeah unless you haven't gathered I don't give a shit about the space programme.
No reason to have benevolent beings in the universe, and if there is life out there, what would be their opinion of humanity if we met? They'd have had to travel millions of light years most likely to just reach a trace of humanity, and then, what have we done in compare in space? Walked on the moon a few times. Compared to another species travelling across the planet of the universe to earth from their homeworld, our achievements are like someone walking to another room of their house and making a big hoo-hah about it.
Yeah unless you haven't gathered I don't give a shit about the space programme.
See this is why i hate humans as a species were so monumentaly arrogant that we could even consider been the only inteligent life in the universe.
Were a fucking virus with shoes!
Were a fucking virus with shoes!
I believe in ghosts, demons and stuff like that so I guess aliens and other inter-galactic life isn't too out there. Might be a bit difficult trying to find it though.
Personally I always strugled with this argument (amongst many) of anti-evolution "Theories". They always claim that the chance of life being formed are impossibly small. I disagree with this, I think that at any place that allows enough chemical reactions life will evolve given enough time. I also believe that anything animal that can hold a tool eventually will. And from there things could go much further.
Though not all stars can form habitable zones where liquid water can exist, even conservative estimates state that just this galaxy is larger than the combined egos of the entire Fox News staff, and that's just ONE GALAXY, Haruhi only knows just how many galaxies there are. I'm not necessarily saying we'll live as a species long enough to discover faster than light travel and find even a primitive alien race, but it seems to me like life beyond our solar system is pretty much a given.
It's a near certainty there is some other type of life out there. The problem comes with trying to guess what it might be like. We can argue over what life does and does not require till the cows come home, but since we don't yet know how life got started on Earth, guessing how it might originate on an alien planet is nearly impossible.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that carbon is probably going to feature in any life forms we find, since it's vital for making complex organic molecules. Water is probably a necessity too, but beyond that who knows? I would love to get a look at the nucleic acid (or equivalent) of an alien species.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that carbon is probably going to feature in any life forms we find, since it's vital for making complex organic molecules. Water is probably a necessity too, but beyond that who knows? I would love to get a look at the nucleic acid (or equivalent) of an alien species.
You're going to have to elaborate on this, I appear to have missed out on the scientific discovery of the century somehow.TheFederation said:
Not quite- that discovery was reported very inaccurately (a more cynical view might be "dishonestly") by the media. What they actually discovered was that a species of extremophile can use arsenate instead of phosphate in small sections of their DNA backbone, but only when they're placed in an artificially high concentration of arsenic for a long time. It's still exciting stuff, but it's incorrect to say that the species in question is "arsenic based".
sigh, somehow i saw this coming,yes you are correct our knowledge is definitely not complete, but the drake equation is our best guess with what we have and as we learn more we add or subtract to the equation. it was never intended as a be all end all on the existence of alien life but its a step in the right direction.falconsgyre said:
