Poll: YOUNG ENGLISH PEOPLE: Will you go to university?

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TheGuiggleMonster

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With rising university prices I probably won't be able to afford to (I'm 14). You don't need a visa to study in the EU so I might have to go the the Netherlands after I do my A-levels. I hear that the Dutch government gives grants to students form the EU but if I go there I'll need to learn Dutch to get a part-time job to pay for living costs. I could go to France instead as I already speak French but I don't know if I'll be able to afford it there either.

It's such a dilemma because I have the intelligence to become an engineer or a doctor although admittedly I don't actually know what I want to become yet.

EDIT: I'm from a lower-middle-class family.
 

Griffolion

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I've already been to university and got my degree. I'm going back to study another foundation degree and so have to pay higher than normal tuition fees on top of the already planned rises due to it not being my first.

It's what i want to do though so i'm determined to do it.
 

Bobic

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But you can still go to uni with the raised fees. You aren't charged anything up front. All it means is your student loan is bigger, and you only start paying that when you get a job. Your current monetary status has nothing to do with it.
 
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Stop listening to the people who say it's £9000 a year, it isn't. At the most, universities can charge £6000 and in exceptional cases it can go up to £9000 however universities can choose to charge the same amount they have been charging for the past few years. Even then, you only have to pay it back when you're making £21000 a year which means you can easily pay it off and live a decent life at the same time.

Student loans will allow you to go to university, don't worry about it. I'm 16 and I'm not worrying about it. Anyway, there is the chance that it will be reduced by another party in the coming years. Don't write off going to university with your friends because of money. If you want to do something then you can't let trivial things like money get in your way.
 

sky14kemea

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I thought I'd go to University >.> Then life hit me like a ton of bricks.

Still, I agree with others in the thread, Student Loans should allow you to go to University no matter what your financial background. :D So I say go for it!

Some people can get Grants as well, you could always try that option to help reduce your loan. :/ (Someone correct me if I've got the wrong idea btw).
 

Actual

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The new fees will make no difference to you. I went to Uni 5 years ago and could not afford the fees. You know what I did? Like everyone else I took out a student loan.

You can do the same and it makes no difference how much your Uni charges.
 

FMAylward

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Not including my student loans I get DLA (which does not actually go into my bank) and £150 income support every two weeks which is actually being investigated as they are now saying I should not be getting that. I get no financial help from my family apart from when my granddad gives my dad money every so often my dad gives me.

I have only ever had two cash problems and I am in the middle of my 2nd year

1: Last year (uni year) I did not receive my full student loan until after I have broken up for summer and I had the exact same income. In fact I actually had enough to get a £1000 computer and then when they back paid me I insured my car which cost £2000

2: I am ?low? on money now but that is only because my car keeps breaking down and to put it frankly a car is not something the average a student needs. Besides I should be getting a bursary payment later this week.


Do not tell me you are from a low income family and cannot afford to go to university.
 

Gekkeiju

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Gotta work harder at those A levels now though theyve reverted back to the old system. Seriously though, student loans will always cover the cost of the fees, it's not like the fees are going up but you cant borrow more money- that would be silly.
Im at university now and Im sensible with my money. There are people here who whittled away £4000 in the first semester on countless nights out and just buying alcohol, I dont drink, yet I still have a good time and save myself a lot of money.

I would imagine it being just as expensive, if not more to study in the EU as well; youve still got to pay for all your travel, food, accomodation but then you have an exchange rate to deal with too! And it's often the case that international students pay higher tuition fees than resident students..(I have a friend at my uni from Bulgaria, he has to pay £15,000 a year tuition fees or something, because the british government doesnt fund his place)

If youre serious about really saving money it could be worth looking into going to university locally. Living at home is far cheaper than student accomodation or renting your own place..and then there's still someone around to cook and do your laundry :3
 

Baradiel

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I live on the Isle of Man, so this throws up issues that the Mainland students don't have to worry about.

For starters, we count as "International Students", meaning we already have to pay £9,000 or more. Luckily for us, our government (at the moment) gives grants to students who's family's annual income is lower than £30,000 or something like that, with the amount of money given decreasing the higher the salary. So, we have an advantage over the Mainland, in that universities get more money from us, and most families don't have to shell out the full amount.

Ofcourse, once the universities raise their prices, it will probably double or triple the amount we already pay. In that event, the Isle of Man government will have to decide whether to continue the grant system.

If the student drops out from the course, without an acceptable reason, they have to pay the government ALL the money back. Basically, the Isle of Man government forks out the grant in the hope that, once the student has qualified, they will return to the island and improve it. Therefore, the government is hoping to have a quality investment in the Islands future.
 

Susurrus

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IMO, the choice of whether to go to Uni should be partially based around what you see as your future career (and yes, at 14, that's too young to make that decision). It's worth viewing it as a financial investment (which it is).

If you want to do a job for which a Degree is not a necessity, then you're almost certainly better off not going to university, and spending the three years in a job, gaining valuable practical experience - you'll be earning money, if you're good, you'll be at a higher pay/career level than graduates by the time you would have finished Uni, and, crucially, you have a job (and even if economics leads to redundancy, you have the experience to get another job). Added to which, you also don't have a ridiculous loan hanging around your neck. How the employment market will be in 7 years I don't know, but its ludicrously hard at the moment, with so many graduates looking for jobs - any degree you do undertake, you're gonna need to be in the top 25% of marks, or it will have been a waste of time. Note, rather sneakily, that many firms have started asking for 1st year results, even in degree courses where these results don't count towards your final mark (and one firm I looked at stated point blank that if you had got more than one 2.2 grade in any given year, they would immediately discard your application). In some of the professions, there is also a large Oxbridge graduate bias amongst many firms. So choice of uni matters massively too.

If you DO need a degree for your proposed career, then sure, go. Primarily, the careers that require degrees also pay the best, so whilst the loan may seem large, it will be quickly dwarfed by your pay when you do start earning.

If you're in one of the in-between careers, where going to uni actually does lead to an advantage, it's worth bearing in mind a number of things, primarily that depending on the career, there are scholarships/funding available. A friend of mine obtained a contract with a civil engineering firm before he started uni to study the subject, and they paid his course fees, gave him a generous grant, and gave him the option of doing 2 months work every summer (for which he was also paid). Then you don't a loan. It's an option, and it's worth investigating.

Bear in mind that not every uni as expensive as the others, and that applies equally to fees and to living costs. Cardiff is the cheapest university city in the UK, and living costs over the 3 years are over 50% cheaper than going to a London-based university.


You're also probably being naive if you think that a future government will reverse the decision - once the increase has been swallowed by the public, there's no way a government would REVERSE such a measure - the state of university finances in the UK has been dire for a number of years, due to inadequate funding.

EDIT: Finally, its also worth realising that 18 is not the only time you can go to uni. If you need to work for a year or two, to offset the debt, that's probably a good idea...
 

Eekaida

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I'm really lucky in that I'm graduating from my BA this year, so even when I do my MA next year I'll be evoiding the tuition fee rises. I've managed to avoid loans of any kind, despite the fact I'm piss poor, by doing three things:

1. Keep working. I hate my job at Sainsburys and I never have a day off, but I have no debt!
2. I live at home. I'm lucky in that the uni I really wanted to go to was local. Commuting three hours a day (public transport, of course, its about 25 minutes if you drive) is a bit of a slog, but its a lot cheaper than renting and all that involves.
3. Grants/Bursaries: praise whatever god you worship for grants - they just about covered my tution fees, but I did have to make up about a grand of difference.

My advice to you is when you turn 16, get a job and start saving. If you can save even a couple of grand by the time you're 18, that's a couple of grand less you don't have to borrow. Of course, try to get into the best uni you can, but if there's a very good one locally, don't turn your nose up at staying at home a few more years.

Personally, I'm sick of people saying the rise won't affect anyone really - those who say that clearly have no idea about the affect debt has on people's lives. You shouldn't have to pay for three years of your life for the next 40 years of it. If I were a few years younger, I probably wouldn't have gone to uni, because the idea of starting my adult life at least £30,000 in debt is a terrifying prospect.
 

Sticky Squid

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Hoping to go to Cambridge, but that seems like a far off time to me, gotta go through college first see how that goes.
 

Blitzwarp

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Bobic said:
But you can still go to uni with the raised fees. You aren't charged anything up front. All it means is your student loan is bigger, and you only start paying that when you get a job. Your current monetary status has nothing to do with it.
Agreed. My university debt is £30k which I borrowed from the Student Loans Company, but I don't start paying it back until I earn more than £15k per year.
 

Phoenix09215

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Well the plan is to apply for a student loan, and my parents said they will help out as much as possible. But because of what I want to do I have no choice but to go on to higher education >.<
 

Harlemura

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No, but I never intended to in the first place.
I'm one of those nincompoops who has no idea what they want to do with their lives and just assume it'll roll out fine.

Worked so far.
 

Penguinness

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Baradiel said:
I live on the Isle of Man, so this throws up issues that the Mainland students don't have to worry about.

For starters, we count as "International Students", meaning we already have to pay £9,000 or more. Luckily for us, our government (at the moment) gives grants to students who's family's annual income is lower than £30,000 or something like that, with the amount of money given decreasing the higher the salary. So, we have an advantage over the Mainland, in that universities get more money from us, and most families don't have to shell out the full amount.

Ofcourse, once the universities raise their prices, it will probably double or triple the amount we already pay. In that event, the Isle of Man government will have to decide whether to continue the grant system.

If the student drops out from the course, without an acceptable reason, they have to pay the government ALL the money back. Basically, the Isle of Man government forks out the grant in the hope that, once the student has qualified, they will return to the island and improve it. Therefore, the government is hoping to have a quality investment in the Islands future.
Strange, there's people who go/went to my uni who came from isle of man as one would like to boast about all the time, for some reason. I'm fairly sure they paid the 3.xk a year tuition fees which were supported by student finance loans, and got eh usual grants and bursaries.

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It'll just mean you have to pay back a lot more after uni and in a well paid job, most likely at the same rate and unless it's a really well paying job I don't think they get paid off in full either. I don't really have any idea why this raise will do any good except just borrowing more money.

There's an issue with the grants and bursary system, because it assumes people's parents help them financially. I get the full load due to my parents earning a low amount but people whose parents earn a bit more have to get jobs to be able to pay for living costs, though their parents can't help them either - likewise the otherway round, this guy I know gets the full whack and his parents pay for everything. It's all a bit of a mess, but if your parents don't earn that much then you mightaswell go for it.
 

Chrono212

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[HEADING=1]I AM GOING TO STUDY VIDEO GAME DESIGN AND NO ONE IS GOING TO STOP ME![/HEADING]

Apart from my grades, my parents, my family, my school, but gawddamnit I'll try!
Tomorrow. I'll try tomorrow.

And I'd rather study in the US. I have citizenship and all.
 

Weslebear

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I'm definitely going to go to Uni, despite the fact I will be deeply in debt I think it's worth it.

Plus I apparently am getting the scores to get into Oxbridge and my college is pushing for me to go, it would absolutely make my life to study maths at Oxford.