Poll: Your Daily Dose of Morality

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One Seven One

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So.. someone comes in to my home and threatens to kill me and my family..

Right now I do have a strong belief against violence but I would shoot him dead without a second thought.
 

infinity_turtles

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I have a problem with this bit

Huddo said:
(for the sake of this question, let's say that you are of a religion that disapproves of this)
See, you're asking "If your morals said this was wrong, would you still do it?".It makes it sound like you're asking "Which is more important, your family or your other beliefs?", but which is more valuable is a belief, so posing the question on the condition that your beliefs are different invalidates the whole damn thing.

Now, if you were really asking "Would you do this", but threw that bit in to try and make the question more difficult for people who'd do it in a heart beat, that's different. Anyway, I'd shoot him, then after he's down, shoot him a few more times to be sure he's a dead. A guy willing to kill me and my family in cold blood for no reason? Yeah, not taking the smallest chance with me and my family's lives for his sake.
 

Baron_BJ

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This has actually been brought up in a few situations to some prominent religious leaders (a good example was the former pope, only the direct statement after this, not both, the second was stated by another priest and agreed upon by multiple others, however I forgot the name, he was interviewed on both questions and more, if you know the name of the man then speak up) and in such a situation it would be fine to kill the guy. There are a few situations that this can apply to, for example; if you're pretty much wearing rags and really need some new clothes just so that you can keep going then it's OK to steal some clothes if there's no other real choice, but you don't try and go after the most expensive name design shit, just go for something small, don't take more than you need.

Me personally, not only would I shoot the guy, I'd pump every single round into the worthless son of a *****.
 

Mr Cwtchy

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EmileeElectro said:
Kill the fucker.
Hurt my family and I'll make your death look like an accident.

Mr Cwtchy said:
Well, obviously.

Dying isn't high on my priority list, and not doing so would result in the deaths of people I presumably care about.

I sure as hell wouldn't enjoy doing it though. Probably need counselling afterwards :/

To dodge the question I would just shoot him in the gun arm, or the leg.
My science teacher told me shooting someone in the leg is the worst place to shoot them, a main artery is in your leg or something.
Ah. Shows how much I know about the human anatomy.

The gun arm then.
 

ShadowsofHope

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I am going to down the fucker, end of story. When a man places innocents at gunpoint and threatens to kill them, are you really going to hesitate and not take down the threat?

Ah, and then most likely a bullet to the skull to make sure he's really dead.. unless he pulls a Scream "You shot me in the face, but I'm still somehow alive", then he'll get a few more for safe measures.
 

Aesir23

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I'd kill the intruder. I'm not about to sacrifice my family for some moral rule or religious ideology that I personally hold.

EmileeElectro said:
My science teacher told me shooting someone in the leg is the worst place to shoot them, a main artery is in your leg or something.
Actually no. If the bullet hits the femoral artery there's still a chance that the person can survive if you can get a tourniquet on and slow or stop the blood flow, get medical attention, etc. Meanwhile, if the bullet hits the hindbrain, it's pretty much certain death in most cases. If you manage to damage another part of the brain, you can cause either death or impair a variety of functions depending on which area is damaged.

 

infinity_turtles

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Redingold said:
EmileeElectro said:
My science teacher told me shooting someone in the leg is the worst place to shoot them, a main artery is in your leg or something.
No, I'm pretty sure that the worst place to shoot somebody is in the head. Not to say that shooting them in the leg isn't bad, of course.
Depends on the caliber. Smaller rounds are pretty likely to get stuck on your skull, but they'll still cause you to bleed out pretty quickly if you're shot in the thigh. Larger ones mean you have a better chance of surviving if shot in the thigh, but you're still pretty much guaranteed to die. So smaller rounds you're better of being shot in the head, larger ones and it doesn't really matter.

*edit*

shewolf51 said:
Actually no. If the bullet hits the femoral artery there's still a chance that the person can survive if you can get a tourniquet on and slow or stop the blood flow, get medical attention, etc.
Realistically, that's not very likely though. If it's bad enough that they're knocked out, they're screwed. If you're conscious, they're not likely to accept help from the person who sot them.
 

Lawnmooer

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Ok, he is dead in my eyes. I don't have beliefs strong enough and if I'm not allowed to do a non-lethal disarm/incapacitate the lives of my family would be more important to me than some thing I can't prove exists (If I believed in stuff like that...)


Though I don't think it is a great morality question... "If you had beliefs would you disregard them to save your family" with the inclusion of "You cannot do anything but kill or be killed" makes it pretty much a no-brainer for everyone... they will most likely choose to kill unless they are devoted to their religion and believe that them and their family would be taken to the afterlife/reincarnated ect.

Now if the question revolved around someone that was not armed with a gun but had killed your family and you could choose whether they lived or died (I.E. they were hanging off a building) or they were covered in explosives and you could choose to let him kill your family, or move him so you die but your family survives, that could have gotten some morality choices that were less predictable...
 

RanD00M

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I would shoot him.He is in my household.Threatening my family.And I have no reason not to shoot him.

EmileeElectro said:
My science teacher told me shooting someone in the leg is the worst place to shoot them, a main artery is in your leg or something.
Well if Black Hawk Down taught me anything.It taught me that a shoot in the leg can enough to make a man bleed to death,because there a main artery there.
 

PoliceBox63

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It's really hard to try and think what i'd do if i was that religious person. I'd say at the end of the day any person's survival instincts would kick in and the people who don't shoot are probably those brainwashed dopes who "speak in tongues", fall over every sunday and never question their sacred texts.
In that kind of situation i think your mind wouldn't be on your religion it would be thinking "oh fuck he's gonna shoot me, a bullet, aargh ,WAIT i have a gun *enter VATS mode*"
 

Hawgh

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If I was a devoutly religious person, I'd probably believe in the existence of souls or reincarnation or such. Which would mean that my family wouldn't truly, die, and killing the man would tarnish my 'soul', so no. In that case I'd let him do kill us all.

Of course, I don't, so I'd shoot that bastard dead.



EDIT: It just struck me that I might be of a religion where killing is allowed, perhaps even encouraged(Asatru for example) under some circumstances, in that case, the guy would get perforated.
 

Martinalexander

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Marq said:
Yeah, I shoot the bastard. Self-defence isn't murder.

Also, why the FUCK would I have a gun if using it is against my beliefs?
Well, if you didn't the situation would be too simple..

"An intruder comes in and rounds you and your family up in a corner. You don't have a gun since it's against your beliefs. You are dead."

But i guess, if you didn't have the gun, that amounts to not using it, in the situation stated..

And if you did.. well then you shoot him. :)
 

Ldude893

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Shoot him, but not before quickly muttering that I'm sorry and I'll forgive him.
 

Dreyfuss

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Huddo said:
Now, it goes against all your moral and religious beliefs to murder another human being dead (for the sake of this question, let's say that you are of a religion that disapproves of this), would you shoot the intruder dead to save your family? Or die upholding your beliefs?

That is the question I ask you, Escapists.
You are telling us what we believe, and then asking what we'd do...

Do you even realize what you actually did here?

You told us how we would answer, and then asked us for that answer?

If I were someone whose moral code was against murder then obviously I wouldn't shoot.
 

S.R.S.

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Being the Australian badass that I am, I will instead use my boomerang and then telepatically tell my pet kangaroo to beat him up for me.
I've got shit to do like eat vegemite, re-cork my hat, visit the Opera House and go croc wrestling.

OT: Yeah, I would gun him down.
 

wooty

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Could there be an option to be able to plant a few rounds in the major joints? Thats what I'd go for, then I'd take the burglar round to my friends Z's house and leave him to it.
 

Aesir23

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EmileeElectro said:
shewolf51 said:
She fails then. I think I learnt more by that than I ever did whilst doing science at school. Seriously, we grew turnips all year.
Seriously? Let's see, you're around 18, then you'd be in Year 10 or 11, right?

Anyway, yes I'd have to say that your science teacher definitely fails. If it's any consolation, my English teacher was bloody horrible. We didn't learn a thing all year, she basically just went over everything we'd learned about five or six years prior.
 

Spitfire

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Marq said:
Yeah, I shoot the bastard. Self-defence isn't murder.

Also, why the FUCK would I have a gun if using it is against my beliefs?
Pretty much the reason why this thread fails right here.