Poll: YOUR political affiliation!

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Timewave Zero

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Timewave Zero said:
Anarchist society. It's the only possible non-corrupt way of life. Simple and anyone can do anthing they want. Fascim, Communism, Democracy etc., are all corrupt.
I, myself, is a liberal (Which, I guess, is somewhat connected to anarchy. Correct me if I'm wrong) but what about the poor? Even if I lay my trust on humanity, I can't really see a society without laws/taxes/regulations.
You see, the perfect system of government would be a mix of democracy, communism and anarchy. But as actual systme are easily susceptible to corruption, the only free way forward is to let everybody make their own rules. You don't have to follow anybody else's, just your own.
 

teisjm

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Seeing that you list socialism, communism and anarchy in one group i call this poll extremely biased.

Here in denmark where i live, Obama would still be considered right wing, but communists are something we stoped caring about a long time ago.
 

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Reklore said:
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Socialist and communist on the SAME bloody buttion!. Why don't you just say fascist and republican are the same -_-

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Well...
Well, well what? I already had a debate with maker of this thread (and I came up on top).

If you disagree, please state you thoughts, but only if you read my former debate
Its a joke man .
It was a joke? sorry for my offense then. I was hopeing for a debate.
Its was just a bit of sarcasm
 

Akai Shizuku

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teisjm said:
Seeing that you list socialism, communism and anarchy in one group i call this poll extremely biased.

Here in denmark where i live, Obama would still be considered right wing, but communists are something we stoped caring about a long time ago.
That's a misunderstanding. Firstly, there are not enough spots on the poll to include all three in separate options. Secondly, there is no bias here, as I myself am a communist. Thirdly, communism is basically anarchist socialism. Left anarchy. So it's two options on there, not three. Notice the brackets. I do hope you understand now.

Also, sorry if I sound aggressive, I'm just in a bad mood from unrelated things.
 

tan-z

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communism is basically anarchist socialism. Left anarchy. So it's two options on there, not three. Notice the brackets. I do hope you understand now.
Communism is socialism.

Socialism is leftism.

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

We have always been at war with eastasia.

(This post is only half joking, anarchist socialism could also be collectivism or mutualism, and the last time I checked leftism and socialism were not one and the same)
 

Akai Shizuku

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tan-z said:
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That's a misunderstanding. Firstly, there are not enough spots on the poll to include all three in separate options. Secondly, there is no bias here, as I myself am a communist. Thirdly, communism is basically anarchist socialism. Left anarchy. So it's two options on there, not three. Notice the brackets. I do hope you understand now.

Also, sorry if I sound aggressive, I'm just in a bad mood from unrelated things.
Communism is socialism.

Socialism is leftism.

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

We have always been at war with eastasia.
Communism and socialism are two related but different branches of leftist ideology. Communism is a stateless, classless, egalitarian and democratic society. Socialism is egalitarian and democratic but not stateless and often not classless either (the USSR was an example of this, though it was not democratic either. Actually, it wasn't egalitarian either. You know what? Screw them, bad example). Also, communism abolishes currency while socialism usually does not. Additionally, socialism often has an authoritarian government except in its libertarian and anarchist forms, which turn into communism rather quickly.

Socialism has often been seen as a bridge from a capitalist system to communism, and socialist leaders have in the past tried to use it as such but have failed for preventable reasons.
 

tan-z

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Akai Shizuku said:
Communism and socialism are two related but different branches of leftist ideology. Communism is a stateless, classless, egalitarian and democratic society. Socialism is egalitarian and democratic but not stateless and often not classless either (the USSR was an example of this).
Right on communism, wrong on socialism. Socialism is any poltiical ideology that supports worker control of the means of production. USSR was not socialist, it was just a beuracratic mess.

Also, communism abolishes currency while socialism usually does not. Additionally, socialism often has an authoritarian government except in its libertarian and anarchist forms, which turn into communism rather quickly.
Mutualism, that is all. Oh, except you seem to be rather unaware of the economic calculation problem.

Socialism has often been seen as a bridge from a capitalist system to communism, and socialist leaders have in the past tried to use it as such but have failed for preventable reasons.
*State-socialism
 

Anarchy In Detroit

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However, I can tell the OP that The Escapist is generally more liberal-leaning, and would ask why it is important to know other people's political affiliations? What can be gained?
SO WE CAN ROUND YOU UP FOR DE DEATH PANELZ SILLY BUNS!

I'm socialist/communist/left leaning anarchist type.

Kind of misleading, but I am not a communist. Just don't believe in it. I feel human nature will always topple communism and lead to something horrible.

Rather I tend to like how Europe does things. Democratic socialist perhaps?

All I can say for certain is I do not support either party in the US.
 

Desert Tiger

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Conservative. Many single-parent families are leeching Britain through the benefits culture, and it's about time a New Right supporting party was brought in to sort it out.
 

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You could say I'm facist for not liking some foreigners coming into the country and not adapting to our customs (how the crap is Christmas racist and why should people be fired and have their job given to some non-English speaking Polish arse) but you could say I'm communist for thinking people should have equal rights (to a certain degree) but I disagree because in the end some people will become more equal than others in the long run so it can never work. BTW don't call me evil or cruel hearted, you need foreigners in a country otherwise the country would be isolated from the world, plus there would be no culture I just believe British jobs for British workers and kick people off the dole, and also the aparthied in South Africa was bad, South Africa is a black people's country. My stepdad thinks BNP have some good ideas (he votes UKIP for not being over the top) but he worked in South Africa on a labour trade and he said the way they treated the black workers was horrible, the white minority laughing at them when they fell off a piece of scaffholding nearly smashing their skulls. And the EU is balls, why should we let Romanian bloody rapists live in our country no questions asked? So really what I'm saying is after this pointless speech is I don't know my politcal views, they are probably centered but WOOP GO MONSTER RAVING LOONY PARTY! NO COAL SHOES FTW!
 

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I am just old enough to vote XD therefore have not had many years experience to define my political stance. However on the knowledge i have at the moment i am leaning towards Voting conservative at the next election.

This is mostly due to the fact that it is the only option left that doesn't involve pandering the lazy, selfish majority that leechs off the welfare system...

I have to admit, i fully agree with the ideals behind facism...it is shown time and time again democracy doesn't work give a group of people the power to vote and they all chose something different and then spend all their time arguing about it.
Give one person the power to make the desicions and things get done..
the problem is of course that one man tends to get power hungry..><

At the end of the day in order to run a country things need to get done, laws need to passed, desicions need to be made and unfortunatly democracy does get in the way of this.

There isn't really a 'right' answer. It depends on the times. in ten years time my politcal views may have changed according to how the world is and what i want from it.
 

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You could say I'm facist for not liking some foreigners coming into the country and not adapting to our customs (how the crap is Christmas racist and why should people be fired and have their job given to some non-English speaking Polish arse) but you could say I'm communist for thinking people should have equal rights (to a certain degree) but I disagree because in the end some people will become more equal than others in the long run so it can never work. BTW don't call me evil or cruel hearted, you need foreigners in a country otherwise the country would be isolated from the world, plus there would be no culture I just believe British jobs for British workers and kick people off the dole, and also the aparthied in South Africa was bad, South Africa is a black people's country. My stepdad thinks BNP have some good ideas (he votes UKIP for not being over the top) but he worked in South Africa on a labour trade and he said the way they treated the black workers was horrible, the white minority laughing at them when they fell off a piece of scaffholding nearly smashing their skulls. And the EU is balls, why should we let Romanian bloody rapists live in our country no questions asked? So really what I'm saying is after this pointless speech is I don't know my politcal views, they are probably centered but WOOP GO MONSTER RAVING LOONY PARTY! NO COAL SHOES FTW!
Your very far right.. but not racist, fortunately. You sound rather like a rather radical Daily Mail reader. Your a right-wing conservative, in favour of isolationism and you would vote either UKIP or Tory.

Well in some aspects i'm virtually the opposite matey. I am generally center wing, with perhaps left leaning tendencies. For instance I'm in favour of tighter and better assessed government benefits for individual's, but still think that government benefit is a good thing. I believe the role of the government is to ensure that there are the necessities for society to function fairly and efficiently, and act as a referee within a free market. That mean's the government provides education and health care, as well as unemployment and retirement benefit. The government could also provide infrastructure and transport, although ideally this would compete against private companies, along with private companies providing health care and education. The government should ensure that private companies are competing fairly against each other, and attempt to keep a fairly balanced "free market" by various "watch-dogs" and agencies.

The government should play a minimum role in the personal lives of it's citizen's, only stepping in when one citizen compromises the right's of another. (These right's being right of life, safety, property etc). The state's laws should be based around this philosophy.

In terms of international politics's i'm in favour of state's actively co-operating with each other in economic, political and militarily affair's, sharing politics's and economics's with each other leading to closer ties and integration between nation's. This lead's to a stronger global economy and annihilates the possibility of war between nation's. After all, your obligation to your country falls secondary to your obligation towards the betterment of humankind as a whole. Your nationality should not be a barrier in this world.
 

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I'm conservative, and anyone who supports anarchy really doesn't understand how crappy a world in anarchy would be. Without basic law, the world would crumble like wet sand.
 

Akai Shizuku

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I'm conservative, and anyone who supports anarchy really doesn't understand how crappy a world in anarchy would be. Without basic law, the world would crumble like wet sand.
To correct that common misconception, anarchy is only lawless when it is individualist. Mainstream anarchy is democratic, and laws are formed via direct democracy and enforced collectively.
 

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Akai Shizuku said:
GreyWolf257 said:
I'm conservative, and anyone who supports anarchy really doesn't understand how crappy a world in anarchy would be. Without basic law, the world would crumble like wet sand.
To correct that common misconception, anarchy is only lawless when it is individualist. Mainstream anarchy is democratic, and laws are formed via direct democracy and enforced collectively.
Wikipedia Definition of Anarchy:

Anarchy (from Greek: &#7936;&#957;&#945;&#961;&#967;&#943;&#945; anarchía, "without ruler") may refer to any of the following:

"No rulership or enforced authority." [1]
"Absence of government; a state of lawlessness due to the absence or inefficiency of the supreme power; political disorder."[2]
"A social state in which there is no governing person or group of people, but each individual has absolute liberty (without the implication of disorder)."[3]
"Absence or non-recognition of authority and order in any given sphere."[4]

Numbers 2 and 4 Completely go against your statement, but I will be willing to haggle over meaning.

Also, you just described democracy.
 

FolkLikePanda

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Nickolai77 said:
FolkLikePanda said:
You could say I'm facist for not liking some foreigners coming into the country and not adapting to our customs (how the crap is Christmas racist and why should people be fired and have their job given to some non-English speaking Polish arse) but you could say I'm communist for thinking people should have equal rights (to a certain degree) but I disagree because in the end some people will become more equal than others in the long run so it can never work. BTW don't call me evil or cruel hearted, you need foreigners in a country otherwise the country would be isolated from the world, plus there would be no culture I just believe British jobs for British workers and kick people off the dole, and also the aparthied in South Africa was bad, South Africa is a black people's country. My stepdad thinks BNP have some good ideas (he votes UKIP for not being over the top) but he worked in South Africa on a labour trade and he said the way they treated the black workers was horrible, the white minority laughing at them when they fell off a piece of scaffholding nearly smashing their skulls. And the EU is balls, why should we let Romanian bloody rapists live in our country no questions asked? So really what I'm saying is after this pointless speech is I don't know my politcal views, they are probably centered but WOOP GO MONSTER RAVING LOONY PARTY! NO COAL SHOES FTW!
Your very far right.. but not racist, fortunately. You sound rather like a rather radical Daily Mail reader. Your a right-wing conservative, in favour of isolationism and you would vote either UKIP or Tory.

Well in some aspects i'm virtually the opposite matey. I am generally center wing, with perhaps left leaning tendencies. For instance I'm in favour of tighter and better assessed government benefits for individual's, but still think that government benefit is a good thing. I believe the role of the government is to ensure that there are the necessities for society to function fairly and efficiently, and act as a referee within a free market. That mean's the government provides education and health care, as well as unemployment and retirement benefit. The government could also provide infrastructure and transport, although ideally this would compete against private companies, along with private companies providing health care and education. The government should ensure that private companies are competing fairly against each other, and attempt to keep a fairly balanced "free market" by various "watch-dogs" and agencies.

The government should play a minimum role in the personal lives of it's citizen's, only stepping in when one citizen compromises the right's of another. (These right's being right of life, safety, property etc). The state's laws should be based around this philosophy.

In terms of international politics's i'm in favour of state's actively co-operating with each other in economic, political and militarily affair's, sharing politics's and economics's with each other leading to closer ties and integration between nation's. This lead's to a stronger global economy and annihilates the possibility of war between nation's. After all, your obligation to your country falls secondary to your obligation towards the betterment of humankind as a whole. Your nationality should not be a barrier in this world.
...Each to their own really isn't it