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Sightless Wisdom

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It requires practically no talent compared to other forms of music, it uses a very small spectrum of musical theory(time signatures,keys, chords harmony etc), everybody seems to think everything that isn't popular is crap. It's the entertainment for the sheep of the music industry. That enough reasoning?
 

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Keepitclean said:
Pop music is about the money not the music. That is why it sucks.
Ageed.

Pop "artists" these days just shit out more records for more money

And any that say they aren't, are still being manipulated by the record company to make more meaningless "music"
 

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I don't know mostly because I'm usually sick of the song after the first few weeks. And if it's an artist who's music sound very similar from album to album, I grow tired of them very quickly.
 

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Depends really, everyone who says all popular music is mindless, simple, auto-tuned drivel is mostly pointing towards the popular hip-hop and R&B songs, and I hate that just as much. The lyrics are indeed simple and pointless, the songs void of real musical talent, etc etc. But that doesn't mean all popular music is like that. I think Amy McDonald is pretty good, and has a wonderful voice:
bloodmage2 said:
i challenge you to find a song from a popular band within the last 5-10 years that does not have one reference to any of the following: sex, money, dating, violence, teenage pregnancy, sports (yes, i find sports wrong, bite me), drugs, alcohol, racial epithets, prostitution. you will not.
Yes I will:
There ya go, and they're a pretty popular band at that, I loved their concert on New Years Eve.
 

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It's just the kind of style most popular music nowadays adopts. A few years ao I listened to alot of mainstream music because I liked it, it was all upbeat, most songs were unique and it was befitting of the time. Nowadays I just don't like the style they've adopted. If it isn't some pretentious boy band singing about the "Pain and suffering" they endure each day despite living in solid gold mansions and having millions of fans all around the world it's some equally pathetic Retard Attempting Poetry who uses the N word like he doesn't realize what it ACTUALLY REPRESENTS! And then there's the kind of mainstream music which is just the artist/artists just boasting about how much money and girlfriends they have. I don't hate it because it's popular and mainstream, I don't enjoy it because to me it doesn't sound good.
 

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Basicly, because its mainstream shit, you listen to it only because its popular, people who listen to it wants to be popular, often it is people who feel insicure about themselves and have an urge to be the center of atention who listens to Popmusic. this makes me think that wannabe popular duchbags likes pop
while real human beings with a mind of their own, like the music they feel suit them the best!
me? I like numetal
 

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For music to be good for me, it has to move me. It has to make me feel something, happy, excited, scared, melancholy, thoughtful, etc. etc. In short, it has to have soul, (or spirit, whichever you prefer.) Most popular music, take pop like Hannah Montana or Jonas Brothers for example, is disliked by some people because it comes across as soulless, manufactured so to speak. Personally, I like songs like Theme Of Laura, Life On Mars, and Nine Crimes because they make me feel something.
 

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captain wow said:
cyber_andyy said:
Because its tuneless, musically stunted, repetitive rubbish?
CrashBang said:
Most pop music is genuinely shit, and the reasons are various. It's usual qualms such as unoriginality, autotuning, lifeless and generic lyrics, generic sounds which have been recycled and used athousand times before, using drum machines and synths rather than producing music with real instruments, using people with real talents and passion for what they write and create.
Popular bands are generic, they're safe, lifeless and boring. They bring no excitement to the world of music, they simply recycle tunes, melodies and lyrics and mass-produce them to be heard in clubs and pubs around the country. It's dull and irritating
I agree with these guys 100%. I used to work in a music store and it was a nightmare. We were forced to listen to whatever god awful crap was in the charts all day every day. I once heard justin timberlake's future tard love songs album 14 times in one day... Let me say that again for emphasis; 14 TIMES IN ONE DAY!! It was literally one of the worst days of my life. That was same year that Timbaland (Satan in the flesh) produced Nelly Furtardo, Timberlake and a whole host of others' singles/albums AND THEN RELEASED HIS OWN DAMNED ALBUM! And then, just when i thought it couldn't get any worse... he went and stole Chris Cornell's soul. I couldn't get away from his factory produced lifeless hollow synthetic soulless crap that he called music. The rest of the crap in the charts was equally bad but he was becoming damn near omnipresent for a while. I always wanted to work in a music store because i thought it would be awesome but i just had to quit because of chart music. It's so fucking shit. Its just mass produced noise that's killing real music. It's soulless, factory made, recycled, lowest common denominator bullshit and it must be stopped!!!
Exactly. Anyone with an ear for music can take a close listen to whats in the charts and realise it just sounds like a massive gaping hole, void of talent, passion, power, originality and everything else music should be about. Music should be innovative, revolutionary, exciting! The charts will never change, because the majority accept that it is listenable, it's simple, and it's sufficient for the public ear, but that's not what real music is!
 

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Renamedsin said:
Basicly, because its mainstream shit, you listen to it only because its popular, people who listen to it wants to be popular, often it is people who feel insicure about themselves and have an urge to be the center of atention who listens to Popmusic. this makes me think that wannabe popular duchbags likes pop
while real human beings with a mind of their own, like the music they feel suit them the best!
me? I like numetal
You are aware that everything you've said is a gross generalization made from uneducated assumptions, right?
 

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I don't like really anything except for rock - and I'm extremely picky about what I consider rock to be. Miley Cyrus and co. are not rock.
The reason is simply because that's what my parents listened to when I was younger. I still do listen to some newer bands (I don't know why Kings of Leon keeps reappearing in the thread, but that's an example) but I stay away from the Pop/Hip Hop/Club music. Gag me with a spoon.
 

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arc1991 said:
right im the kinda guy that (1)listens to pretty much anything...from Beyonce...to Hollywood Undead...30 Seconds to Mars...to Westlife and i see posts where people are harrasing popular music, and i hear people talking about it's like its another plague.

i wanna know...y people hate it, i mean (2)some singers get accused of being a fake artist (because they dont write their own material bla bla bla) but they acctualy do, Alexander Burke for example (winner of X-factor 2009) even stated that her songs have come from her diary. yet she gets accused.

i just want to know why people hate the popular type of music, not just because they don't write their own material...i want more reasons cause that reason has been done to death =P

(3)EDIT: something im noticing here, i said popular music and most of you refer to "pop" lol =P hehe something tells me people have lived in the dark and not shoved the charts on have they =P
First, I'll address the question in the title of the post, and then I'll address the content of the OP. While there is a relatively small faction of people who dislike anything that gains popularity (the only reason to hate Kings of Leon, for instance), these people are pretentious twits who need to be strapped to a rocket and fired at the moon. However, these people are far outnumbered by a far less intelligent, far less interesting crowd that - you guessed it - just LOVE everything new and shiny and popular (remember Hootie? Gin Blossoms? Yeah, there's a reason that you don't). THESE people need to be strapped to a rocket and fired at the SUN.

I can tell you why I, personally, cannot stand the overwhelming majority of popular music today (and it IS bloody pop) - it's the absolute disdain for actual songwriting, for the instruments that (used to) MAKE music, the hatred of anything that sounds different or adventurous or experimental or interesting. And it absolutely all sounds the same. Beyonce is certainly talented, but what she actually chooses to do with those pipes of hers makes me cringe - Aretha Franklin she's not. When I hear modern pop (or "pop rock," giggle), it sounds to me like contemporary christian music from over a decade ago.

(1) This is not "pretty much anything." Everyone you mentioned can be heard on a top 40 station. Here in Dallas, and numerous other places in the states, the local top-40 disposable commodity station music of Clear Channel is referred to as "Kiss FM music."

Have you ever listened to folkster Damien Rice? His music has been in the movie Closer and on episodes of CSI. How about power-pop band Rilo Kiley? Their songs have been on Grey's Anatomy and several other shows? Ditto Mike Doughty, ditto Yeah Yeah Yeahs. "Prog-punk" (hate that term) band The Mars Volta have been featured in a Guitar Hero game. My point is, you don't have to go indie to find music outside of the mainest of the mainstream, music that is far more interesting and challenging. Most of the music you mentioned is of the sort that is usu. defended by (a) "but everybody loves it, bro!" or (b)meh, it's got a good beat.

(2)A good point. I see you're 18, so you're probably not familiar with the duo Milli Vanilli from the early 90's. If you want a good laugh, look 'em up on youtube. They were at the absolute top of the charts, and the world, for about 2 months, when it was discovered that they didn't write their own songs and in fact lip synched on stage. And they were banished, I say, banished! Sound familiar? Madonna, Britni Spears, Ashleeee Simpson, AFI, any given top 40 rapper? They all lip synch. But of course, Madonna, approaching 60, can now play guitar like a first year student. Bravo, Madge! Now it's just accepted. Miley Cyrus('s producer) writes a song that is an obvious plagiarism of 80's hit "I Wear My Sunglasses At Night," and few even bat an eyelash. Some truly talentless turds remake "You Spin Me Right Round," an other 80's hit, without crediting the artist, and it's the flavor of the month (can't wait for the intellectual property suit over that one). So no, they're all basically aping each other, their producers are composing albums that they think will sell to the target demo of tween girls who haven't yet developed taste - another reason to hate these fools when they get up on stage and dance like monkeys on speed and try to move their lips in tune to the computerized muzak.

(3)If it's top 40, and on the radio, it's pop. Kings of Leon may just get an exemption, because there's quite a bit of rock and soul in there, but every single artist you mentioned is not only pop but sticky-sweet bubblegum pop.
Hollywood undead are not pop =P trust me on that one, 30 seconds to mars is a bit tougher, they've been in the top 40 once or twice, but i wouldn't say they were popular, maybe on the rock charts, that's where i see em most so yanoo...

here in England they aint on our charts anyway, maybe in America they are but not here =)

(im not attacking you im just stating my points)
 

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arc1991 said:
right im the kinda guy that listens to pretty much anything...from Beyonce...to Hollywood Undead...30 Seconds to Mars...to Westlife and i see posts where people are harrasing popular music, and i hear people talking about it's like its another plague.

i wanna know...y people hate it, i mean some singers get accused of being a fake artist (because they dont write their own material bla bla bla) but they acctualy do, Alexander Burke for example (winner of X-factor 2009) even stated that her songs have come from her diary. yet she gets accused.

i just want to know why people hate the popular type of music, not just because they don't write their own material...i want more reasons cause that reason has been done to death =P

EDIT: something im noticing here, i said popular music and most of you refer to "pop" lol =P hehe something tells me people have lived in the dark and not shoved the charts on have they =P
I understand your claims. Yet before I go on to make my own, we have to lay down the term "popular music". Sure, some music is more popular than other, based entirely on how much media coverage it gets, but the thing is, be it music, literature, films, anything will get bad press if it becomes too popular. Why do you think the 90s was hell on Earth for metalheads? Because it was too popular and they started censoring it, in this case, through the more than appropiate claims of metal music being inclined towards occultism and violence. Or, as another example, why do you think Microsoft was forced out of its ridiculously lucrative monopoly? Because people didn't like it, Microsoft was too powerful (and popular) for the benefit of its competitors. In this case, the same happens. No one likes someone else getting more success than them, and specially thos that have had too much media coverage over their lives, and hence have become douchebags. We just need to get over it, there will always be people jumping in and out of the wagon. I, too, try and listen to any and everything (though I constantly keep falling back to ROCK!), and whilst this gives me a much wider musical spectrum than most, it also gives me the chance to appreciate every and all kinds of music (when it can actually be CONSIDERED music, and not most of all this new technological crap (MUSIC=MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS!!)), so my advice is that you don't form allegiances with a one genre and try to be free. That way, you'll achieve happiness and won't feel personally attacked when your favourite genre is criticized (simply, don't be a fanboy. No one likes them).

I'm just waiting till rap music gets censored for being overly explicit...
STILL waiting...
God, I want the 80s back :(
ooooo trust me, i will never be a fanboy, im searching so many artists ive never heard of cause of this post =P have to say some are acctualy decent =P
 

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arc1991 said:
Hollywood undead are not pop =P trust me on that one, 30 seconds to mars is a bit tougher, they've been in the top 40 once or twice, but i wouldn't say they were popular, maybe on the rock charts, that's where i see em most so yanoo...

here in England they aint on our charts anyway, maybe in America they are but not here =)

(im not attacking you im just stating my points)
Listen to Mos Def, The Roots, Handsome Boy Modeling School, A Tribe Called Quest, Jurassic 5 or Dead Prez and then give Hollywood Undead another listen. It's a soup of the most popular current hip hop and rock stylings, the radio friendly and bubble-gum variety. And 30 Seconds to Mars has been All Over The Radio here, pretty much since they came out.
 

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funguy2121 said:
arc1991 said:
Hollywood undead are not pop =P trust me on that one, 30 seconds to mars is a bit tougher, they've been in the top 40 once or twice, but i wouldn't say they were popular, maybe on the rock charts, that's where i see em most so yanoo...

here in England they aint on our charts anyway, maybe in America they are but not here =)

(im not attacking you im just stating my points)
Listen to Mos Def, The Roots, Handsome Boy Modeling School, A Tribe Called Quest, Jurassic 5 or Dead Prez and then give Hollywood Undead another listen. It's a soup of the most popular current hip hop and rock stylings, the radio friendly and bubble-gum variety. And 30 Seconds to Mars has been All Over The Radio here, pretty much since they came out.
fair point i suppose =)
 

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Probably because of several valid reasons
-It is very repetitive
-A lot of popular artists act like snobs
-Even if they do make it, it takes no talent to put together a bunch of robot noises or to edit your own voice to sound like a horse giving birth
-If I liked it, I would be put into the same group as every other teenager who likes it, most of which are posers with no personality of their own
-Most of the artists who are popular just get lucky, with one or two songs on the radio that everyone forgets about after a month or so
-Last, there is so much great music in the world. If you take the time to look for it, it makes radio look like a big pile of crap
 

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AgentNein said:
Renamedsin said:
Basicly, because its mainstream shit, you listen to it only because its popular, people who listen to it wants to be popular, often it is people who feel insicure about themselves and have an urge to be the center of atention who listens to Popmusic. this makes me think that wannabe popular duchbags likes pop
while real human beings with a mind of their own, like the music they feel suit them the best!
me? I like numetal
You are aware that everything you've said is a gross generalization made from uneducated assumptions, right?
not meaning it offensive, but it is my general opinion. I usually try to not go this far with my subjective meanings, but this is what experience has thought me. I must ask that you ecsuse me for acting stereotypical in this matter.
 

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The people posting in this topic only further my belief that those who dislike pop music are just as close-minded as your average teeny-bopper pop fangirl. There are just as many vapid, repetitive punk/metal/indie songs as there are vapid, repetitive pop songs. The only difference is the bad pop songs get more airplay because they're, you know, popular.