Pornography, should it be banned?
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The Porn industry is pretty massive, it would be a major blow (hurr hurr?) if it where to be banned.
I'd also rather something like this stay all legit and legal rather than go underground which would cause hell of a lot more problems (The trafficking Woman thing) than there already is.
I'd also rather something like this stay all legit and legal rather than go underground which would cause hell of a lot more problems (The trafficking Woman thing) than there already is.
It died the moment primitive cavemen gained the ability to draw stick figures with boobs on their walls.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:What happened to good old fashioned imagination?Casual Shinji said:
It was meant as a joking counterargument to those in the OP. But how would that be the luckiest person?SmashLovesTitanQuest said:By accidentally seeing your mom naked when you are 5 years old or actually having sex. If neither of those has happened to you you are not only a rare case but also both the luckiest and unluckiest person alive.DoPo said:But how would you imagine stuff if you haven't seen a boob? What unrealistic expectations would that result in?SmashLovesTitanQuest said:What happened to good old fashioned imagination?Casual Shinji said:
Righto. Let's break this down, then.
Pornography in its most basic form is the imagination of a man. This is what men imagine when they have no woman and must deal with things. OF COURSE IT OBJECTIFIES WOMEN.DrScoobs said:
For young guys? Yeah, pretty much. But again, it's the imagination of men. Sexual fantasies. It's meant to be unrealistic.
And about 75% of the women I have dated want to be sex slaves. Women aren't as innocent and pure as you think.
Well tell them to stop trying to give me relationship advice. [Yes, there's a DVD product where two female pornstars try to give men relationship advice.]
Lol no it wouldn't. It would result in men getting tired of their imagination. Porn keeps several men from sexually assaulting women. It's like violent video games, is a way to relieve the "stress, build up, frustration" without acting upon the desired wishes.
...This is the result of bad parenting. When I discovered porn, my friend showed it to me. I didn't go out looking for it on my own. His parents did a bad job at disciplining him. My parents found out and installed a filter for the internet. I did not see a single porno again until I was 14. From there, it's a normal method of maturing for a young male, and not bad for a female.
...No. It wouldn't. Most Human Trafficking is dealing with drugs, smuggling illegals, and terrorists. Sex slaves are actually the least common form of Human Trafficking, as one of my family friends is in charge of Human Trafficking in many US Embassies across the globe.
Im afraid all of these are absolute bullshit.DrScoobs said:
Lets ban male/female moddelling:
It objectifies the men.
It sets unrealistic standards for attractiveness
Most models are VERY unhappy.
Lack of hot people would reduce the desire for perfection in attractiveness in society and reduce bullying of those deemed "unnatractive"
Stops kids seeing hot people (god fucking forbid they realise that filth lie between their legs does anything but be a sinfill heathen object)
If moddelling was banned it would stop anorexia and belemia.
Because of this i think it should be illegal to show any attractive men/women on TV at any time ever.
Show your friends this example. Its utter bullcrap. I think hes a bit of a faschist.
As for whether or not pornography objectifies women?yeah, of course it does. That?s the entire point. People watch porn so they can get off to it, and most of them aren?t wondering if the girl getting buttfucked has a nice personality or whatever. Nothing wrong with that, though.
You could say the same about the objectification of men (especially in gay porn). I can?t tell you how many times I?ve seen porn videos that, while focusing on the women, has some random guy walk into the scene and you only use his cock for 95% of the time.
And anyone that uses porn as a basis for real sex is fucking retarded and probably deserves to get STDs.
You could say the same about the objectification of men (especially in gay porn). I can?t tell you how many times I?ve seen porn videos that, while focusing on the women, has some random guy walk into the scene and you only use his cock for 95% of the time.
And anyone that uses porn as a basis for real sex is fucking retarded and probably deserves to get STDs.
If you believe this, explain all the amateur porn that the girls themselves upload to the intertubes.DrScoobs said:
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Modern courtship is basically legalized prostitution, if you think about it. One way or another, we're paying for it.JimB said:
Porn should remain a social taboo that most people partake in. I really don't want any of the porn, and I'd rather none of my hypothetical future progeny be exposed to it before they have reasonable interest in it.
That being said, the censors here should really get their priorities straight and realize that a nonsexual image of boob or penis is less traumatizing than graphic acts of violence and cruelty. Nudity ≠ porn.
Also, not considering everyone involved in the sex industry to be morally bankrupt monsters would be nice, too. I honestly don't know anyone who makes money off porn (that I know of >.>) but discriminating against people over something most of the population seems to like sounds pretty cruel.
That being said, the censors here should really get their priorities straight and realize that a nonsexual image of boob or penis is less traumatizing than graphic acts of violence and cruelty. Nudity ≠ porn.
Also, not considering everyone involved in the sex industry to be morally bankrupt monsters would be nice, too. I honestly don't know anyone who makes money off porn (that I know of >.>) but discriminating against people over something most of the population seems to like sounds pretty cruel.
I believe that it should not be banned in general, however the internet should be regulated to far higher standards to stop certain kinds of porn (the illegal and disturbing kind), and ofcourse it objectifies women, however most of the women in porn do so by there own free will meaning, not to mention the fact that porn is viewed by both genders.
Side note: porn is one of the few industries where the average income of a women is higher than that of a man.
Side note: porn is one of the few industries where the average income of a women is higher than that of a man.
No, it should not.
- Yes, wouldn't want our entertainment media to start portraying things unrealistically, since as humans we have no ability to form realistic expectations if we are subjected to fantastic illusions ever.
- Many sex slaves in the world are linked to pornography? I'm not sure what the argument is. Illegal aspects exist in this industry? I suppose they do, just like they do in all human endeavours. Let's talk about my new proposal to ban all clothes because some are sown by child labourers under terrible conditions.
- 98% of female actors are unhappy? 98% of PEOPLE are unhappy. If you walk around being happy, there's a good chance something is wrong with you, OR that the next horror the universe is scheduled to inflict on you is right around the corner. Happiness is a short-lived, fleeting sensation, not a sane norm.
- Drop in sexual crimes if porn was banned? Suffice to say, I have never seen this claim supported by evidence.
- There is no POINT in stopping children from accessing pornography. If they want to access it they will, legal or no. An overwhelming majority of children, meanwhile, are not interested or actively repulsed. If children access porn, TALK to them about the birds and the bees and send them on their way, they're not all that fragile.
- Once more, I'd like to see this "apparently real" study that says this stems from. I've not extensively researched this, but if conclusive evidence or statistically relevant studies had surfaced to this effect, those arguments would be everywhere UNTIL all porn is banned, yet that's not the case - all attacks on pornography tends to be anecdotal moralizing.
Your friend is an idiot.
- All pornography objectifies women? Really? Well it's good he's seen all the porn in the multiverse so he can accurately assess that.DrScoobs said:
- Yes, wouldn't want our entertainment media to start portraying things unrealistically, since as humans we have no ability to form realistic expectations if we are subjected to fantastic illusions ever.
- Many sex slaves in the world are linked to pornography? I'm not sure what the argument is. Illegal aspects exist in this industry? I suppose they do, just like they do in all human endeavours. Let's talk about my new proposal to ban all clothes because some are sown by child labourers under terrible conditions.
- 98% of female actors are unhappy? 98% of PEOPLE are unhappy. If you walk around being happy, there's a good chance something is wrong with you, OR that the next horror the universe is scheduled to inflict on you is right around the corner. Happiness is a short-lived, fleeting sensation, not a sane norm.
- Drop in sexual crimes if porn was banned? Suffice to say, I have never seen this claim supported by evidence.
- There is no POINT in stopping children from accessing pornography. If they want to access it they will, legal or no. An overwhelming majority of children, meanwhile, are not interested or actively repulsed. If children access porn, TALK to them about the birds and the bees and send them on their way, they're not all that fragile.
- Once more, I'd like to see this "apparently real" study that says this stems from. I've not extensively researched this, but if conclusive evidence or statistically relevant studies had surfaced to this effect, those arguments would be everywhere UNTIL all porn is banned, yet that's not the case - all attacks on pornography tends to be anecdotal moralizing.
Your friend is an idiot.
