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Portal 2 - DLC Backlash
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I swear it's like people never heard of "upgrade packages" before, like when you go buy a brand new top of the line car and then they say "oh, want a chrome grill?" "want nice rims?" "want the GPS nav?" Ok well it'll cost you extra!
It's called a business and it's fucking brilliant on Vavle's part. They gave you the full 100% game and then give you the option of buying a little inconsequential extra. As long as they supply a limited amount of these "hats" and shit in the game from beating it or getting achievements then it shouldn't matter at all.
It's called a business and it's fucking brilliant on Vavle's part. They gave you the full 100% game and then give you the option of buying a little inconsequential extra. As long as they supply a limited amount of these "hats" and shit in the game from beating it or getting achievements then it shouldn't matter at all.
That's like saying that littering is equivalent to murder. They've denied you of something that is roughly equivalent to nothing. Removing parts of levels or entire levels would be millions of times more effectual than that.believer258 said:
Also, they're extras. Really pointless expensive extras, but still extras.
If they worked for extra weeks in order to make those assets, does it really matter whether they completed them before or after the game came out? Should they not be able to charge for their extra work?
Generally speaking, if I was doing extra work beyond what was expected, I would want to get paid. But maybe that's just me.
Generally speaking, if I was doing extra work beyond what was expected, I would want to get paid. But maybe that's just me.
And in comes the bann hammer.Bill Bread said:
Anyway,
It's kind of amusing to see this backlash.
I wonder if it also happened if they sold Portal 2 for the regular price, and sold a Collectors edition with hats for 20 dollars more.
You see. that's another way to see this.
A Special Edition where you can decide just how much more special you want it to be!
Draw yourself a nice blue and orange circle on a piece of paper and you have your concept art.
I'm guessing that it may be beyond you that I could be not entirely serious.Ranorak said:
I'd be ok with that. Only fools get those more expensive editions anyway.
As Legion's stated with a bit more subtlety:
This is situation 1: it's £32 of game, £28 of which is items that you're not getting, leaving you with £4 of game that you paid £32 for.
This is situation 2: It's £60 of game and items; you're getting £32 of game which is exactly what you paid for.
Situation 2 exists in the real world. Situation 1 exists only in your mind. Aesthetic character customisation was not advertised as part of the game, therefore you do not as a consumer have any right to it with the purchase. This is like buying the game-only pack of Guitar Hero World Tour and complaining that it didn't come with the band kit.
This is situation 1: it's £32 of game, £28 of which is items that you're not getting, leaving you with £4 of game that you paid £32 for.
This is situation 2: It's £60 of game and items; you're getting £32 of game which is exactly what you paid for.
Situation 2 exists in the real world. Situation 1 exists only in your mind. Aesthetic character customisation was not advertised as part of the game, therefore you do not as a consumer have any right to it with the purchase. This is like buying the game-only pack of Guitar Hero World Tour and complaining that it didn't come with the band kit.
Day 1 DLC is not remotely surprising anymore...programmers set aside people to make DLC while the game is still in production. The intention is to add content separate from the game to make more money from willing buyers (of which there are tons). Complain all you want, this isn't about to change.
I for one don't mind it...I fail to see why I should have to wait X months before DLC is accepted by the community when I can buy it day one while I'm still playing the game. I speak in general terms of course..Portal2 is far too short a game for me to justify paying full price on. I will likely buy it during holiday steam sales this year or next.
I for one don't mind it...I fail to see why I should have to wait X months before DLC is accepted by the community when I can buy it day one while I'm still playing the game. I speak in general terms of course..Portal2 is far too short a game for me to justify paying full price on. I will likely buy it during holiday steam sales this year or next.
And that's exactly what you get. Additional content is not part of a complete product called Portal 2. It's separate product. Just like a new case for your console/PC.believer258 said:
I wouldn't buy the game if it kept it's price. It's not like some smaller game series aren't released in per episode for lower entry costs. Loads of indie devs do it.
However cutting out core element's of campaign is not exactly the same as releasing additional skin textures. There is quite a huge gap in between. The campaign is not shortened by lack of bonus skins, nor are co-op missions. You got full product that you can upgrade with premium extras.
That really doesn't hold any water. You can't tell me with a straight face that this cosmetic stuff (which apparently doesn't matter, according to Valve Defence Force) is worth the price they're asking for. I paid for a game, I don't expect to get £30 of game and a load of stuff missing.Hydro14 said:
My copy of the orange box cost me £12, and that means Portal 1 was, for me, roughly £2.40. This means that Portal 2 is, for me, about 15 times the price. And they have the audacity to leave content out.
Roll on STALKER 2, I've had enough of shitty western devs ripping me off.
I love this site. Everyone complains endlessly about day 1 DLC and micro-transactions, but when Valve does it half of the forums are leaping to their defense or pretending they've never had a problem with it.
Also, could I get some English in these captures please? I don't speak fucking Latin. Could we at least use text that's actually readable instead of unintelligible scrawling?
Also, could I get some English in these captures please? I don't speak fucking Latin. Could we at least use text that's actually readable instead of unintelligible scrawling?
So.... If all the DLC was unlock on the special edition for 20 dollars extra, it wouldn't bother you?Bill Bread said:
As in.... EXACTLY the same as now? You pay more, you get more?
Except it's now optional to the point of 1 item at the time, instead of all-or-nothing.
It's only missing if you believe it should have been there in the first place. Why do you believe it should have been? I agree it's not worth £28, which is why I'm not buying it. I do believe the game was worth £32, which is why I bought it. Simple market forces state a product is worth what the buyer is willing to pay. If you don't believe a game without aesthetic character customisation is worth £32 then that's a fair call, but the fact that character customisation is available for an extra cost shouldn't have any bearing on the initial purpose.Bill Bread said:
I'd give this merit if the DLC content were levels, challenges and all that, but SKINS? Since when have we become so incredibly vain, that we need to play dress-up with every single game imaginable? It's skins, people. There's a lot of other stuff on gaming grounds to b**** about, hate to break to ya. If you wanna play Barbie's Makeover in every single game you own, be my guest, but don't complain that you have to pay.
No he didn't; back off. He said: "It's all cosmetic, so I don't really care. I know TF2 did this". He was saying that all of TF2's was cosmetic.Bill Bread said: